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BSL18 TieBreaker ladder for Gosu, Hasu and Chobo - Page 2

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WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3471 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-17 18:46:51
March 17 2024 15:19 GMT
#21
On March 18 2024 00:00 ZZZero.O wrote:
I guess its easier to find games in the evening.

We will discuss 15 games with admins.


thank you!

btw you mean eu evening? i m not in eu TT

edit: whatever i m not doing any more games, getting destroyed by A/S ranks 20 times in a row while waiting 15mins in between each time is pointless. I m at 0-4 as expected, but i had to wait a total 1hr for those. Lowest opponent i faced was 2050 MMR. I was looking at maybe chobo seeing i m now inactive and 1650 ish mmr. But SB is not a good place for sub 1900 (and even then...) unless you 2v2. GL to everyone who survives the grind or is lucky enough to live in a timezone when others are active and games come quickly.

I think this was a good idea for gosu (may be 8 slots is too many but idk), but it s not a great idea for chobo/hasu. It s good to try new things that being said~

GL to BSL and the admins for the tournaments when they start
Horang2 fan
HerbMon
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States469 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-18 11:42:30
March 18 2024 01:05 GMT
#22
No seed for the Hasu League Champ? All joking aside, thank you for allowing us to get a 2nd chance. I saw others playing on their BSL account and didn't read the initial post about the 0-0 stats. I'll make sure to take the time and read the post before making an account for future tournaments. BROODWAR FWIGHTING!
How we will win in the period ahead.
hgfhtrhgff
Profile Joined March 2024
1 Post
Last Edited: 2024-03-18 12:18:36
March 18 2024 09:49 GMT
#23
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WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3471 Posts
March 18 2024 12:20 GMT
#24
On March 18 2024 18:49 hgfhtrhgff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2024 22:18 ZZZero.O wrote:
On March 17 2024 20:33 psyCrowe wrote:
On March 17 2024 19:19 ghftrzhfg wrote:
Well, this is awkward
[image loading]

Why so?

Welcome to TL.net


I usually don't answer to those bots^^ But they are getting smarter, now they can put a pictures and look like a normal person.

"Its a Bot" The new age hitler argument. Seems easy,

But let me get this straight: You are throwing 3 leagues into 1 ladder. On an platform which already relies on forging your own games "QQ1v1QQQ1v1Q", Now you are looking for ~50 people to play ~15 games. About 750(375) games. I think that combines all games on the Shield Battery ladder (right now). BSL 18 proleague on SB had ~6 active player.
Not to mention that the concept of having Masters vs Gold vs Platinum vs Gold vs Master is already mind boggling

On the other hand your "Battlegrounds Weekly" tournament has to be canceled due to a lack of interest. Not sure what scene you are looking for, but it doesnt seems to exist. An existing "amateur" scene would take every opportunity to compete and improve. Even if there isnt a chance of winning


The scene is fine thank you. But I think deep down you know that or you wouldn't come here to complain. Why post if there is truly no scene?
Now SB ladder is not a place to compete and improve if you re not already decent, it has nothing to do with the amateur scene opportunities for lower levels. It s just not catering to that demographics.
Horang2 fan
BulgarianToss
Profile Joined May 2011
Bulgaria491 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-18 17:51:50
March 18 2024 17:48 GMT
#25
Count me in if i find the time! I only managed to play 2 games on my bnet account so this is like a second chance to qualify and play some games, very nice initiative!

PS i also love that we will get SB more active again, it's an awesome server
music is the best thing in the world
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2356 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-19 05:54:42
March 19 2024 05:54 GMT
#26
lol hasu league is stacked
ἡ τῆς Νεμέσεως τάξις
hgftrhgffde
Profile Joined March 2024
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-22 17:40:07
March 22 2024 17:39 GMT
#27
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ZZZero.O
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland1599 Posts
March 22 2024 18:45 GMT
#28
It's going great Mr. Bot, launching this was a good decision and I see it as a success, we will have excellent players joining both Gosu and Hasu!
https://www.patreon.com/Bombastic || https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Bombastic_StarLeague || https://linktr.ee/bombastic
hgftrhgffde
Profile Joined March 2024
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-22 20:03:15
March 22 2024 19:58 GMT
#29
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radley
Profile Joined August 2008
Poland582 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-23 10:32:44
March 23 2024 10:31 GMT
#30
Given the fact that playing on ShieldBattery does not require much effort to install launcher and start playing, I find it only fault of players themselves that they do not want to participate. The reasoning about that it's bad place for lower rank players is out of mind. If everyone started playing there, the ladder would match games on their own level. Moreover they have 10 discord servers, especially CPL one for scheduling games - just get couple of people there and push matchmaking button at the same time. So the real problem are players who are not committed enough to play, which is visible in given leagues since beginning of them by number of walkovers, required reschedules etc. I don't think such players should even play in any tournament with such commitment, cause its pissing off players that are more trustworthy. Right now I can see on that ladder top 8 people who usually cause no troubles and are on the level of GosuLeague, so its working.
Personally maybe the only thing I would change was to not ban after 2nd BN ladder stats reset from joining choboleague. But it does not affect that many people afterall, maybe 2 or 3 players below 1950 mmr.
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WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3471 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-23 21:39:04
March 23 2024 21:30 GMT
#31
On March 23 2024 19:31 radley wrote:
Given the fact that playing on ShieldBattery does not require much effort to install launcher and start playing, I find it only fault of players themselves that they do not want to participate. The reasoning about that it's bad place for lower rank players is out of mind. If everyone started playing there, the ladder would match games on their own level. Moreover they have 10 discord servers, especially CPL one for scheduling games - just get couple of people there and push matchmaking button at the same time. So the real problem are players who are not committed enough to play, which is visible in given leagues since beginning of them by number of walkovers, required reschedules etc. I don't think such players should even play in any tournament with such commitment, cause its pissing off players that are more trustworthy. Right now I can see on that ladder top 8 people who usually cause no troubles and are on the level of GosuLeague, so its working.
Personally maybe the only thing I would change was to not ban after 2nd BN ladder stats reset from joining choboleague. But it does not affect that many people afterall, maybe 2 or 3 players below 1950 mmr.


Wouldn't that be matchfixing by selecting your opponent?

I agree with you SB is fine for gosu, for hasu d say meh and for chobo a disaster without coordinating elsewhere beforehand.

@zzzero: so how are we looking for 15 games for chobo?
Also please confirm what Radley is saying wouldn't count as matchfixing? Can i just get 4-5 ash or cpl members together and chain our games to make it 15? Or would that be illegal?
Horang2 fan
radley
Profile Joined August 2008
Poland582 Posts
March 24 2024 01:10 GMT
#32
You serious now? Matchfixing is when someone losses on purpose. If 10 people sets queue in same time and matchmaking system decides how to pair them, it doesn't differentiate from bn at all, apart from fact that BN ladder sucks with latency and half of games are being played vs random non-bsl accounts.
TL+ Member
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3471 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-24 21:05:16
March 24 2024 13:24 GMT
#33
Edit: got confirmation from LML (thank you!), The limit is 5 times playing the same opponent if coordinating.

Is chobo gonna be lowered to 15 games?
Horang2 fan
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1789 Posts
March 26 2024 15:49 GMT
#34
15 games is the new threshold (for all leagues of course, not just chobo).
LML
Skythe
Profile Joined January 2024
Hungary1 Post
March 28 2024 03:05 GMT
#35
Impossible.
I'm searching for a game for more than an hour...
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3471 Posts
March 28 2024 12:56 GMT
#36
On March 28 2024 12:05 Skythe wrote:
Impossible.
I'm searching for a game for more than an hour...


if (like me) you cannot play at peak playing time, whenever that is, the best is to ping people on discord and agree a time and play each other 5 times in a row, that s the only way it worked for me and a few others.
Horang2 fan
VladZhin
Profile Joined January 2024
15 Posts
April 01 2024 23:31 GMT
#37
Group Draws today?
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1789 Posts
April 02 2024 13:45 GMT
#38
On April 02 2024 08:31 VladZhin wrote:
Group Draws today?


Yes
LML
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