EPT[ASL16] Grand Finals - Page 6
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ggsimida
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whylessness
United States376 Posts
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ggsimida
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Djibouti2570 Posts
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Belgium4137 Posts
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51632 Posts
Poll: Recommend Mini vs Soulkey Game 5? Yes (26) No (1) If you have time (1) 28 total votes Your vote: Recommend Mini vs Soulkey Game 5? Poll: Recommend Mini vs Soulkey Game 6? Yes (13) If you have time (4) No (3) 20 total votes Your vote: Recommend Mini vs Soulkey Game 6? | ||
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whylessness
United States376 Posts
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oxKnu
1267 Posts
However, the macro games from Mini in this series were "appaling" to say the least. How the hell do you not know which expansions to eliminate on a two player map when you are so ahead. That was lame, this series could've been an all-timer if Mini had done his part. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4181 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4296 Posts
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RJBTV
194 Posts
On October 15 2023 18:25 whylessness wrote: soulkey joins rain in the realm of the sc2/bw multiple game champion golden gods. but while rain's win was against snow when rain looked invincible in pvp, soulkey's ASL trophy has no question mark. still a great finals imo Soulkey already had a KSL trophy so he was already a multiple game champion. But yeah, he was missing an ASL title  .I think that makes Flash, Rain and Soulkey the only multi-game champions in the post 2012 era. | ||
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Zealgoon
China188 Posts
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Miragee
8714 Posts
Mini played really well for the most part. His biggest mistakes were his indecisiveness in the late game, bouncing back and forth between Soulkey's expansions without achieving anything, and his unit comp. Yes, it was expensive, but he should have built reavers earlier when he was ahead to bust some of those fortified positions before Soulkey got too big imho. | ||
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Rainalcar
Croatia559 Posts
On October 15 2023 19:02 RJBTV wrote: Soulkey already had a KSL trophy so he was already a multiple game champion. But yeah, he was missing an ASL title .I think that makes Flash, Rain and Soulkey the only multi-game champions in the post 2012 era. Flash is a SC2 champion? Since when? | ||
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TMNT
3383 Posts
I recommend everyone to watch the super ace of this Proleague between him and Royal just a couple of days ago. He was so dead in the midgame of that game but eventually crawled his way back to life. Those who said Mini played bad or threw the games today, I think it's unfair. Mini played well, especially if you know that he's been in terrible form recently (20% win in Proleague this month). He got ahead with supply and was on even base with Zerg a couple of times but as if it's a sign of sure win for Protoss in PvZ lol. If you know what Soulkey can do with Defiler in the weaker matchup of Zerg (ZvT), you sure understand what he can do in the race's stronger matchup that is ZvP. Overall Soulkey is the deserved winner of this season. He had the harder bracket, defeating former ASL finalist and champion Rush and JYJ (both were champion contenders). While Mini basically beat two K League "parkers"(Sharp and Effort) on his way, with Effort practically giving the wins to him. A bit sad for Mini that he's gotten to 4 finals and only won 1 of them (but hey, that's still a better record than all but 2 players). But if ASL continues to run for a while, and with Royal and Soma going to military next year, he's gonna be the youngest god tier player. Which means he will basically be the no 1 or 2 contender every season. Well, unless Flash returns and gets back to his best. | ||
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Zealgoon
China188 Posts
 IEM Season IX - Toronto(Jaedong might also be in there depending on whether you count WESG) | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
On October 15 2023 19:22 TMNT wrote: I swear once Soulkey gets to Defiler no matter how far he is behind there's always a chance he can come back. He's so so hard to kill lol. Remember those series vs Royal and JYJ in the last ASLs? You can see that again today in the Dark Origin and the Invader games. I recommend everyone to watch the super ace of this Proleague between him and Royal just a couple of days ago. He was so dead in the midgame of that game but eventually crawled his way back to life. Those who said Mini played bad or threw the games today, I think it's unfair. Mini played well, especially if you know that he's been in terrible form recently (20% win in Proleague this month). He got ahead with supply and was on even base with Zerg a couple of times but as if it's a sign of sure win for Protoss in PvZ lol. If you know what Soulkey can do with Defiler in the weaker matchup of Zerg (ZvT), you sure understand what he can do in the race's stronger matchup that is ZvP. Overall Soulkey is the deserved winner of this season. He had the harder bracket, defeating former ASL finalist and champion Rush and JYJ (both were champion contenders). While Mini basically beat two K League "parkers"(Sharp and Effort) on his way, with Effort practically giving the wins to him. A bit sad for Mini that he's gotten to 4 finals and only won 1 of them (but hey, that's still a better record than all but 2 players). But if ASL continues to run for a while, and with Royal and Soma going to military next year, he's gonna be the youngest god tier player. Which means he will basically be the no 1 or 2 contender every season. Well, unless Flash returns and gets back to his best. My interpretation is that Mini is a lot like Stork -- always way ahead of his time (or way too late -- and I can never quite tell) | ||
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TMNT
3383 Posts
Terran: Rush (not sure if I should count Sharp in? He did get to 1 ASL and 1 KSL finals) Protoss: Bisu, Best, Snow Zero: Hero, Soma, JD How coincidental is that that we have had a new champion every season since 11? And even before that the crown was passed around each time since season 5. It's like everyone gets a bite (except for the ones listed above) And what's the reason behind that? In the past, OSL and MSL crowns were always shared between a few players. Now we have 12 consecutive seasons with 11 different champions lol. | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
Happy for SK. The guy deserves this long-awaited victory! Commiserations to Mini - a balls-to-the-walls Toss who never ceases to deliver an entertaining long series! Will Flash and Fantasy return next ASL to restore Terran dominance? Long live Brood War! | ||
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Miragee
8714 Posts
On October 15 2023 19:22 TMNT wrote: I swear once Soulkey gets to Defiler no matter how far he is behind there's always a chance he can come back. He's so so hard to kill lol. Remember those series vs Royal and JYJ in the last ASLs? You can see that again today in the Dark Origin and the Invader games. Invader yes, but on Dark Origin Mini didn't even intend to kill Soulkey outright after he came back but to starve him to death. Which should have worked. I still don't fully understand how Soulkey was able to breach the bridges... If Mini had switched his army, as in put his dragoons behind the bridge and more zealots at the fourth I'm sure he could have defended the assault. Or if he had built a couple reavers to defend the bridges. | ||
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