New Worlds Map Contest III: Finals! (VOTE HERE) - Page 7

On May 20 2023 14:49 Testbug[bwmn] wrote:
Hi, i know some people is saying that my map is winning just because of the latin american votes, but even after removing those votes, Paranoid Android is still the most voted.

Please could you consider the idea that my map is winning because it is a good 2v2 map?

Look, if we remove the latin american accounts (including top players like Gosudark, Conan1, ZeTy, Yop, etc) this is the count:

Paranoid Android:
0.5 - masoka82
1.0 - ggByron
0.5 - Mutaller
1.0 - oxKnu
0.5 - maybenexttime
0.5 - neocronx
0.5 - Cruiser0929
1.0 - Culture
0.5 - Darathor
1.0 - RemastrTV
1.0 - tedster
0.5 - fearthequeen
1.0 - Optimate
0.5 - LML
1.0 - Peeano
1.0 - Qikz
0.5 - sTYleZerG-eX
1.0 - bovienchien
0.5 - Chosi
1.0 - pebble444
0.5 - osepu
0.5 - art_of_turtle
0.5 - WGT-Baal
0.5 - outscar
1.0 - Nightmarjoo
-------------------------
Total: 18 points

Sand Storm:
1.0 - Nirli
0.5 - M3t4PhYzX
1.0 - masoka82
0.5 - Jenia6109
0.5 - ggByron
1.0 - RedmundR2
1.0 - nOm.Esk4l4de
1.0 - F0rte
1.0 - ShibaT
1.0 - Mutaller
1.0 - Cruiser0929
0.5 - Culture
0.5 - RemastrTV
0.5 - Xyz1109
0.5 - Galacsia
0.5 - Just_a_Moth
1.0 - fearthequeen
0.5 - Qikz
1.0 - Chosi
1.0 - ZZZero.O
0.5 - TNWZombie
1.0 - osepu
0.5 - whiskeydingo
-------------------------
Total: 17.5 points

Champion:
0.5 - Nirli 0.5
1.0 - M3t4PhYzX
1.0 - Jenia6109
0.5 - Xagec
0.5 - RedmundR2
0.5 - iRkSupperman
0.5 - ShibaT
0.5 - Return
0.5 - oxKnu
1.0 - maybenexttime
1.0 - Darathor
1.0 - Xyz1109
0.5 - VGhost
1.0 - Just_a_Moth
1.0 - Suricatta
0.5 - Optimate
1.0 - LML
0.5 - Peeano
1.0 - Malongo
1.0 - sTYleZerG-eX
1.0 - TNWZombie
0.5 - Nightmarjoo
-------------------------
Total: 16.5 points

Lights Out:
1.0 - Xagec
0.5 - nOm.Esk4l4de
0.5 - F0rte
1.0 - iRkSupperman
1.0 - Return
1.0 - neocronx
1.0 - VGhost
1.0 - Galacsia
0.5 - Suricatta
0.5 - tedster
0.5 - Malongo
0.5 - bovienchien
0.5 - ZZZero.O
0.5 - pebble444
1.0 - art_of_turtle
1.0 - whiskeydingo
1.0 - WGT-Baal
1.0 - outscar
-------------------------
Total: 14 points

If we count Latin American top players like Conan1, Yop, Gosudark1, ZeTy, and also Latin American well known Streamers who recently created their TL accounts like YuAnd28 and olipatrick, Paranoid Android is also winning:

Paranoid Android:
0.5 - masoka82
1.0 - ggByron
0.5 - Mutaller
1.0 - oxKnu
0.5 - maybenexttime
0.5 - neocronx
0.5 - Cruiser0929
1.0 - Culture
0.5 - Darathor
1.0 - RemastrTV
1.0 - tedster
0.5 - fearthequeen
1.0 - Optimate
0.5 - LML
1.0 - Peeano
1.0 - Qikz
0.5 - sTYleZerG-eX
1.0 - bovienchien
0.5 - Chosi
1.0 - pebble444
0.5 - osepu
0.5 - art_of_turtle
0.5 - WGT-Baal
0.5 - outscar
1.0 - Nightmarjoo
1.0 - Conan1
1.0 - Yop
1.0 - YuAng28
1.0 - Gosudark1
1.0 - olipatrick
1.0 - ZeTy
-------------------------
Total: 25 points

Sand Storm:
1.0 - Nirli
0.5 - M3t4PhYzX
1.0 - masoka82
0.5 - Jenia6109
0.5 - ggByron
1.0 - RedmundR2
1.0 - nOm.Esk4l4de
1.0 - F0rte
1.0 - ShibaT
1.0 - Mutaller
1.0 - Cruiser0929
0.5 - Culture
0.5 - RemastrTV
0.5 - Xyz1109
0.5 - Galacsia
0.5 - Just_a_Moth
1.0 - fearthequeen
0.5 - Qikz
1.0 - Chosi
1.0 - ZZZero.O
0.5 - TNWZombie
1.0 - osepu
0.5 - whiskeydingo
0.5 - YuAng28
0.5 - Gosudark1
-------------------------
Total: 18.5 points

Champion:
0.5 - Nirli 0.5
1.0 - M3t4PhYzX
1.0 - Jenia6109
0.5 - Xagec
0.5 - RedmundR2
0.5 - iRkSupperman
0.5 - ShibaT
0.5 - Return
0.5 - oxKnu
1.0 - maybenexttime
1.0 - Darathor
1.0 - Xyz1109
0.5 - VGhost
1.0 - Just_a_Moth
1.0 - Suricatta
0.5 - Optimate
1.0 - LML
0.5 - Peeano
1.0 - Malongo
1.0 - sTYleZerG-eX
1.0 - TNWZombie
0.5 - Nightmarjoo
0.5 - Yop
0.5 - olipatrick
0.5 - ZeTy
-------------------------
Total: 18 points

Lights Out:
1.0 - Xagec
0.5 - nOm.Esk4l4de
0.5 - F0rte
1.0 - iRkSupperman
1.0 - Return
1.0 - neocronx
1.0 - VGhost
1.0 - Galacsia
0.5 - Suricatta
0.5 - tedster
0.5 - Malongo
0.5 - bovienchien
0.5 - ZZZero.O
0.5 - pebble444
1.0 - art_of_turtle
1.0 - whiskeydingo
1.0 - WGT-Baal
1.0 - outscar
0.5 - Conan1
-------------------------
Total: 14.5 points

As you can see, there is no difference in the final results.

Finally, if we count all the votes, including new accounts (registered this year) with less than 5 posts, the result is still the same. These votes even increase the gap between Sand Storm and Champion! because most of these voters voted for Sand Storm too:

Paranoid Android:
0.5 - masoka82
1.0 - ggByron
0.5 - Mutaller
1.0 - oxKnu
0.5 - maybenexttime
0.5 - neocronx
0.5 - Cruiser0929
1.0 - Culture
0.5 - Darathor
1.0 - RemastrTV
1.0 - tedster
0.5 - fearthequeen
1.0 - Optimate
0.5 - LML
1.0 - Peeano
1.0 - Qikz
0.5 - sTYleZerG-eX
1.0 - bovienchien
0.5 - Chosi
1.0 - pebble444
0.5 - osepu
0.5 - art_of_turtle
0.5 - WGT-Baal
0.5 - outscar
1.0 - Nightmarjoo
1.0 - Conan1
1.0 - Yop
1.0 - YuAng28
1.0 - Gosudark1
1.0 - olipatrick
1.0 - ZeTy
1.0 - MaxAle
1.0 - Daliz
1.0 - Zerg1982
1.0 - Toffee17
1.0 - Crossfield
1.0 - Abisgoes
0.5 - GonzaLoF
1.0 - bayesiano
1.0 - zayfher
1.0 - ArisAZ
1.0 - Paty1
-------------------------
Total: 34.5 points

Sand Storm:
1.0 - Nirli
0.5 - M3t4PhYzX
1.0 - masoka82
0.5 - Jenia6109
0.5 - ggByron
1.0 - RedmundR2
1.0 - nOm.Esk4l4de
1.0 - F0rte
1.0 - ShibaT
1.0 - Mutaller
1.0 - Cruiser0929
0.5 - Culture
0.5 - RemastrTV
0.5 - Xyz1109
0.5 - Galacsia
0.5 - Just_a_Moth
1.0 - fearthequeen
0.5 - Qikz
1.0 - Chosi
1.0 - ZZZero.O
0.5 - TNWZombie
1.0 - osepu
0.5 - whiskeydingo
0.5 - YuAng28
0.5 - Gosudark1
0.5 - MaxAle
0.5 - Daliz
0.5 - Toffee17
0.5 - Crossfield
0.5 - Abisgoes
1.0 - GonzaLoF
0.5 - ArisAZ
1.0 - Daril
-------------------------
Total: 23.5 points

Champion:
0.5 - Nirli 0.5
1.0 - M3t4PhYzX
1.0 - Jenia6109
0.5 - Xagec
0.5 - RedmundR2
0.5 - iRkSupperman
0.5 - ShibaT
0.5 - Return
0.5 - oxKnu
1.0 - maybenexttime
1.0 - Darathor
1.0 - Xyz1109
0.5 - VGhost
1.0 - Just_a_Moth
1.0 - Suricatta
0.5 - Optimate
1.0 - LML
0.5 - Peeano
1.0 - Malongo
1.0 - sTYleZerG-eX
1.0 - TNWZombie
0.5 - Nightmarjoo
0.5 - Yop
0.5 - olipatrick
0.5 - ZeTy
0.5 - Zerg1982
0.5 - bayesiano
-------------------------
Total: 19 points

Lights Out:
1.0 - Xagec
0.5 - nOm.Esk4l4de
0.5 - F0rte
1.0 - iRkSupperman
1.0 - Return
1.0 - neocronx
1.0 - VGhost
1.0 - Galacsia
0.5 - Suricatta
0.5 - tedster
0.5 - Malongo
0.5 - bovienchien
0.5 - ZZZero.O
0.5 - pebble444
1.0 - art_of_turtle
1.0 - whiskeydingo
1.0 - WGT-Baal
1.0 - outscar
0.5 - Conan1
0.5 - zayfher
0.8 - Paty1
0.5 - Daril
-------------------------
Total: 16 points

Please, Minerals, stop this. You are making the mapping community look unserious.

On May 20 2023 05:04 outscar wrote:
I'm out of touch, what happened to Sandstorm? The only maps I can vote I see from OP are : PA, Chamion and Lights Out.

Anyways:
1. Lights out
2. PA XXL

On May 22 2023 05:02 iRkSupperman wrote:
Way to make your reputation in the community that of a sore loser. GJ Minerals.

And I even agree to some extent that it's obviously going to lead to biased voting when a participant is promoting the contest to a new audience. But so has Minerals (and other mappers) done as well with the previous rounds of NWMC. Testbug just did it towards a new (and the largest foreign) audience. Makes one wonder if future map contests should have a bit of a different format, which isn't as likely to become a personal popularity contest.

Quite sad for the participants/mappers who aren't direct parties, but still affected by this drama.

On May 22 2023 05:08 Malongo wrote:

I think latam audience is not even the largest, us and eu are way more relevant overall.

On May 22 2023 05:14 iRkSupperman wrote:


Also hypothetically, Korean mappers could be going around and posting NWMC on fmkorea/ygosu and reach an even bigger audience (who'd presumably vote for "their" maps), but as far as I know, they don't.

On May 22 2023 11:24 MineraIs wrote:


We have advertised for voting on EDAC (largest Korean map site) and the ASL forum on afreeca. The participants we got from there didn’t result in a flood of votes for predominantly one map. So far there haven’t been any issues like this and everything has been pretty smooth sailing up until this point.

We’re working on a solution to move forward and probably should shadow TLMC methods from now on.

On May 22 2023 17:33 M3t4PhYzX wrote:

A seriously unfortunate turn of events.

On May 23 2023 10:35 MineraIs wrote:
Results are
1)PA
2/3)Sandstorm or Champion
4)Lights Out

Congratulations jOjO on winning best new mapper with Lights Out!

An additional shout out to Suri for breakout mapper of the year with major improvements!




Stay Tuned for the announcement of New Worlds Star League!

On May 23 2023 09:19 Suricatta wrote:
Link to the finalist maps:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/16lD0KH8ozL3_DFOAYdzSaNKUNdMYUTri/view?usp=sharing

Paranoid Android 2.0
Sand Storm 0.99.9e
Champion 1.32
Lights Out 3.3