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New Worlds Map Contest III: Finals! (VOTE HERE) - Page 7

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Testbug[bwmn]
Profile Joined January 2023
27 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-20 06:56:39
May 20 2023 06:04 GMT
#121
On May 20 2023 14:49 Testbug[bwmn] wrote:
Hi, i know some people is saying that my map is winning just because of the latin american votes, but even after removing those votes, Paranoid Android is still the most voted.

Please could you consider the idea that my map is winning because it is a good 2v2 map?

Look, if we remove the latin american accounts (including top players like Gosudark, Conan1, ZeTy, Yop, etc) this is the count:

Paranoid Android:
0.5 - masoka82
1.0 - ggByron
0.5 - Mutaller
1.0 - oxKnu
0.5 - maybenexttime
0.5 - neocronx
0.5 - Cruiser0929
1.0 - Culture
0.5 - Darathor
1.0 - RemastrTV
1.0 - tedster
0.5 - fearthequeen
1.0 - Optimate
0.5 - LML
1.0 - Peeano
1.0 - Qikz
0.5 - sTYleZerG-eX
1.0 - bovienchien
0.5 - Chosi
1.0 - pebble444
0.5 - osepu
0.5 - art_of_turtle
0.5 - WGT-Baal
0.5 - outscar
1.0 - Nightmarjoo
-------------------------
Total: 18 points

Sand Storm:
1.0 - Nirli
0.5 - M3t4PhYzX
1.0 - masoka82
0.5 - Jenia6109
0.5 - ggByron
1.0 - RedmundR2
1.0 - nOm.Esk4l4de
1.0 - F0rte
1.0 - ShibaT
1.0 - Mutaller
1.0 - Cruiser0929
0.5 - Culture
0.5 - RemastrTV
0.5 - Xyz1109
0.5 - Galacsia
0.5 - Just_a_Moth
1.0 - fearthequeen
0.5 - Qikz
1.0 - Chosi
1.0 - ZZZero.O
0.5 - TNWZombie
1.0 - osepu
0.5 - whiskeydingo
-------------------------
Total: 17.5 points

Champion:
0.5 - Nirli 0.5
1.0 - M3t4PhYzX
1.0 - Jenia6109
0.5 - Xagec
0.5 - RedmundR2
0.5 - iRkSupperman
0.5 - ShibaT
0.5 - Return
0.5 - oxKnu
1.0 - maybenexttime
1.0 - Darathor
1.0 - Xyz1109
0.5 - VGhost
1.0 - Just_a_Moth
1.0 - Suricatta
0.5 - Optimate
1.0 - LML
0.5 - Peeano
1.0 - Malongo
1.0 - sTYleZerG-eX
1.0 - TNWZombie
0.5 - Nightmarjoo
-------------------------
Total: 16.5 points

Lights Out:
1.0 - Xagec
0.5 - nOm.Esk4l4de
0.5 - F0rte
1.0 - iRkSupperman
1.0 - Return
1.0 - neocronx
1.0 - VGhost
1.0 - Galacsia
0.5 - Suricatta
0.5 - tedster
0.5 - Malongo
0.5 - bovienchien
0.5 - ZZZero.O
0.5 - pebble444
1.0 - art_of_turtle
1.0 - whiskeydingo
1.0 - WGT-Baal
1.0 - outscar
-------------------------
Total: 14 points

If we count Latin American top players like Conan1, Yop, Gosudark1, ZeTy, and also Latin American well known Streamers who recently created their TL accounts like YuAnd28 and olipatrick, Paranoid Android is also winning:

Paranoid Android:
0.5 - masoka82
1.0 - ggByron
0.5 - Mutaller
1.0 - oxKnu
0.5 - maybenexttime
0.5 - neocronx
0.5 - Cruiser0929
1.0 - Culture
0.5 - Darathor
1.0 - RemastrTV
1.0 - tedster
0.5 - fearthequeen
1.0 - Optimate
0.5 - LML
1.0 - Peeano
1.0 - Qikz
0.5 - sTYleZerG-eX
1.0 - bovienchien
0.5 - Chosi
1.0 - pebble444
0.5 - osepu
0.5 - art_of_turtle
0.5 - WGT-Baal
0.5 - outscar
1.0 - Nightmarjoo
1.0 - Conan1
1.0 - Yop
1.0 - YuAng28
1.0 - Gosudark1
1.0 - olipatrick
1.0 - ZeTy
-------------------------
Total: 25 points

Sand Storm:
1.0 - Nirli
0.5 - M3t4PhYzX
1.0 - masoka82
0.5 - Jenia6109
0.5 - ggByron
1.0 - RedmundR2
1.0 - nOm.Esk4l4de
1.0 - F0rte
1.0 - ShibaT
1.0 - Mutaller
1.0 - Cruiser0929
0.5 - Culture
0.5 - RemastrTV
0.5 - Xyz1109
0.5 - Galacsia
0.5 - Just_a_Moth
1.0 - fearthequeen
0.5 - Qikz
1.0 - Chosi
1.0 - ZZZero.O
0.5 - TNWZombie
1.0 - osepu
0.5 - whiskeydingo
0.5 - YuAng28
0.5 - Gosudark1
-------------------------
Total: 18.5 points

Champion:
0.5 - Nirli 0.5
1.0 - M3t4PhYzX
1.0 - Jenia6109
0.5 - Xagec
0.5 - RedmundR2
0.5 - iRkSupperman
0.5 - ShibaT
0.5 - Return
0.5 - oxKnu
1.0 - maybenexttime
1.0 - Darathor
1.0 - Xyz1109
0.5 - VGhost
1.0 - Just_a_Moth
1.0 - Suricatta
0.5 - Optimate
1.0 - LML
0.5 - Peeano
1.0 - Malongo
1.0 - sTYleZerG-eX
1.0 - TNWZombie
0.5 - Nightmarjoo
0.5 - Yop
0.5 - olipatrick
0.5 - ZeTy
-------------------------
Total: 18 points

Lights Out:
1.0 - Xagec
0.5 - nOm.Esk4l4de
0.5 - F0rte
1.0 - iRkSupperman
1.0 - Return
1.0 - neocronx
1.0 - VGhost
1.0 - Galacsia
0.5 - Suricatta
0.5 - tedster
0.5 - Malongo
0.5 - bovienchien
0.5 - ZZZero.O
0.5 - pebble444
1.0 - art_of_turtle
1.0 - whiskeydingo
1.0 - WGT-Baal
1.0 - outscar
0.5 - Conan1
-------------------------
Total: 14.5 points

As you can see, there is no difference in the final results.

Finally, if we count all the votes, including new accounts (registered this year) with less than 5 posts, the result is still the same. These votes even increase the gap between Sand Storm and Champion! because most of these voters voted for Sand Storm too:

Paranoid Android:
0.5 - masoka82
1.0 - ggByron
0.5 - Mutaller
1.0 - oxKnu
0.5 - maybenexttime
0.5 - neocronx
0.5 - Cruiser0929
1.0 - Culture
0.5 - Darathor
1.0 - RemastrTV
1.0 - tedster
0.5 - fearthequeen
1.0 - Optimate
0.5 - LML
1.0 - Peeano
1.0 - Qikz
0.5 - sTYleZerG-eX
1.0 - bovienchien
0.5 - Chosi
1.0 - pebble444
0.5 - osepu
0.5 - art_of_turtle
0.5 - WGT-Baal
0.5 - outscar
1.0 - Nightmarjoo
1.0 - Conan1
1.0 - Yop
1.0 - YuAng28
1.0 - Gosudark1
1.0 - olipatrick
1.0 - ZeTy
1.0 - MaxAle
1.0 - Daliz
1.0 - Zerg1982
1.0 - Toffee17
1.0 - Crossfield
1.0 - Abisgoes
0.5 - GonzaLoF
1.0 - bayesiano
1.0 - zayfher
1.0 - ArisAZ
1.0 - Paty1
-------------------------
Total: 34.5 points

Sand Storm:
1.0 - Nirli
0.5 - M3t4PhYzX
1.0 - masoka82
0.5 - Jenia6109
0.5 - ggByron
1.0 - RedmundR2
1.0 - nOm.Esk4l4de
1.0 - F0rte
1.0 - ShibaT
1.0 - Mutaller
1.0 - Cruiser0929
0.5 - Culture
0.5 - RemastrTV
0.5 - Xyz1109
0.5 - Galacsia
0.5 - Just_a_Moth
1.0 - fearthequeen
0.5 - Qikz
1.0 - Chosi
1.0 - ZZZero.O
0.5 - TNWZombie
1.0 - osepu
0.5 - whiskeydingo
0.5 - YuAng28
0.5 - Gosudark1
0.5 - MaxAle
0.5 - Daliz
0.5 - Toffee17
0.5 - Crossfield
0.5 - Abisgoes
1.0 - GonzaLoF
0.5 - ArisAZ
1.0 - Daril
-------------------------
Total: 23.5 points

Champion:
0.5 - Nirli 0.5
1.0 - M3t4PhYzX
1.0 - Jenia6109
0.5 - Xagec
0.5 - RedmundR2
0.5 - iRkSupperman
0.5 - ShibaT
0.5 - Return
0.5 - oxKnu
1.0 - maybenexttime
1.0 - Darathor
1.0 - Xyz1109
0.5 - VGhost
1.0 - Just_a_Moth
1.0 - Suricatta
0.5 - Optimate
1.0 - LML
0.5 - Peeano
1.0 - Malongo
1.0 - sTYleZerG-eX
1.0 - TNWZombie
0.5 - Nightmarjoo
0.5 - Yop
0.5 - olipatrick
0.5 - ZeTy
0.5 - Zerg1982
0.5 - bayesiano
-------------------------
Total: 19 points

Lights Out:
1.0 - Xagec
0.5 - nOm.Esk4l4de
0.5 - F0rte
1.0 - iRkSupperman
1.0 - Return
1.0 - neocronx
1.0 - VGhost
1.0 - Galacsia
0.5 - Suricatta
0.5 - tedster
0.5 - Malongo
0.5 - bovienchien
0.5 - ZZZero.O
0.5 - pebble444
1.0 - art_of_turtle
1.0 - whiskeydingo
1.0 - WGT-Baal
1.0 - outscar
0.5 - Conan1
0.5 - zayfher
0.8 - Paty1
0.5 - Daril
-------------------------
Total: 16 points

Please, Minerals, stop this. You are making the mapping community look unserious.




btw, i'm the author of Paranoid Android XXL and coauthor of Champion. I also collaborated with Lights Out (but i'm not a coauthor of Lights Out, I just spent some hours helping the author because he is my friend).

I'm glad to know the 2 maps in which I am an author or co-author are in the grand finals, together with Lights Out, a map in which I spent many hours.

Right now, i'm working on a new version of Lights Out, and we'll use that map on a female tournament!! with female players from different countries!
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4191 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-20 11:37:35
May 20 2023 11:32 GMT
#122
On May 20 2023 05:04 outscar wrote:
I'm out of touch, what happened to Sandstorm? The only maps I can vote I see from OP are : PA, Chamion and Lights Out.

Anyways:
1. Lights out
2. PA XXL

exactly, I can't even see sandstorm in the first post, was it pulled?
My vote would have been 1.Sand Storm, 2.Lights out, but if it's been pulled don't worry about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2438 Posts
May 20 2023 21:17 GMT
#123
The rules state that
Voting ends May 25, 16:00 CEST / 23:00 KR
Some time after that, the winner should be declared, and so on and so forth; I trust minerals or whoever are the admins of this to do the right thing, and call the shots in a fair and square way; even though you have pulled out, please keep the banner up, and if you want to call it quits after that sure, no problemo.
I trust in you minerals, to do the right thing, and overcome your emotional field; I know you have it in you to do that; think about it;
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland3363 Posts
May 21 2023 16:11 GMT
#124
I still think Minerals shouldn't have pulled out from the competition last second, even if the results are skewed for obvious reasons.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
iRkSupperman
Profile Joined October 2022
Norway35 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-21 20:06:48
May 21 2023 20:02 GMT
#125
Way to make your reputation in the community that of a sore loser. GJ Minerals.

And I even agree to some extent that it's obviously going to lead to biased voting when a participant is promoting the contest to a new audience. But so has Minerals (and other mappers) done as well with the previous rounds of NWMC. Testbug just did it towards a new (and the largest foreign) audience. Makes one wonder if future map contests should have a bit of a different format, which isn't as likely to become a personal popularity contest.

Quite sad for the participants/mappers who aren't direct parties, but still affected by this drama.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3429 Posts
May 21 2023 20:08 GMT
#126
On May 22 2023 05:02 iRkSupperman wrote:
Way to make your reputation in the community that of a sore loser. GJ Minerals.

And I even agree to some extent that it's obviously going to lead to biased voting when a participant is promoting the contest to a new audience. But so has Minerals (and other mappers) done as well with the previous rounds of NWMC. Testbug just did it towards a new (and the largest foreign) audience. Makes one wonder if future map contests should have a bit of a different format, which isn't as likely to become a personal popularity contest.

Quite sad for the participants/mappers who aren't direct parties, but still affected by this drama.

I think latam audience is not even the largest, us and eu are way more relevant overall.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
iRkSupperman
Profile Joined October 2022
Norway35 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-21 20:15:52
May 21 2023 20:14 GMT
#127
On May 22 2023 05:08 Malongo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2023 05:02 iRkSupperman wrote:
Way to make your reputation in the community that of a sore loser. GJ Minerals.

And I even agree to some extent that it's obviously going to lead to biased voting when a participant is promoting the contest to a new audience. But so has Minerals (and other mappers) done as well with the previous rounds of NWMC. Testbug just did it towards a new (and the largest foreign) audience. Makes one wonder if future map contests should have a bit of a different format, which isn't as likely to become a personal popularity contest.

Quite sad for the participants/mappers who aren't direct parties, but still affected by this drama.

I think latam audience is not even the largest, us and eu are way more relevant overall.


Well, my impression is that in raw numbers the Latam scene/playerbase is bigger than the non-Latam foreign scene. Korean streamers face Latam foreigners significantly more than they face non-Latam foreigners, Liquipedia has quite a few more Latam events than non-Latam, etc. Even if it isn't (I don't have solid proof to present right now), it's still a very sizeable scene which normally doesn't post much on TL - so a big shift in the demographics of the vote.

Also hypothetically, Korean mappers could be going around and posting NWMC on fmkorea/ygosu and reach an even bigger audience (who'd presumably vote for "their" maps), but as far as I know, they don't.
MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States739 Posts
May 22 2023 02:24 GMT
#128
On May 22 2023 05:14 iRkSupperman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2023 05:08 Malongo wrote:
On May 22 2023 05:02 iRkSupperman wrote:
Way to make your reputation in the community that of a sore loser. GJ Minerals.

And I even agree to some extent that it's obviously going to lead to biased voting when a participant is promoting the contest to a new audience. But so has Minerals (and other mappers) done as well with the previous rounds of NWMC. Testbug just did it towards a new (and the largest foreign) audience. Makes one wonder if future map contests should have a bit of a different format, which isn't as likely to become a personal popularity contest.

Quite sad for the participants/mappers who aren't direct parties, but still affected by this drama.

I think latam audience is not even the largest, us and eu are way more relevant overall.


Also hypothetically, Korean mappers could be going around and posting NWMC on fmkorea/ygosu and reach an even bigger audience (who'd presumably vote for "their" maps), but as far as I know, they don't.


We have advertised for voting on EDAC (largest Korean map site) and the ASL forum on afreeca. The participants we got from there didn’t result in a flood of votes for predominantly one map. So far there haven’t been any issues like this and everything has been pretty smooth sailing up until this point.

We’re working on a solution to move forward and probably should shadow TLMC methods from now on.
✯ [ twitch.tv/MrMineraIs ] ✯ [ Check out my Maps: https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/612442-official-maps-by-minerals ] ✯
MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States739 Posts
May 22 2023 08:06 GMT
#129
The contest is closing early and will post results tomorrow.
✯ [ twitch.tv/MrMineraIs ] ✯ [ Check out my Maps: https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/612442-official-maps-by-minerals ] ✯
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland3363 Posts
May 22 2023 08:33 GMT
#130
On May 22 2023 11:24 MineraIs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2023 05:14 iRkSupperman wrote:
On May 22 2023 05:08 Malongo wrote:
On May 22 2023 05:02 iRkSupperman wrote:
Way to make your reputation in the community that of a sore loser. GJ Minerals.

And I even agree to some extent that it's obviously going to lead to biased voting when a participant is promoting the contest to a new audience. But so has Minerals (and other mappers) done as well with the previous rounds of NWMC. Testbug just did it towards a new (and the largest foreign) audience. Makes one wonder if future map contests should have a bit of a different format, which isn't as likely to become a personal popularity contest.

Quite sad for the participants/mappers who aren't direct parties, but still affected by this drama.

I think latam audience is not even the largest, us and eu are way more relevant overall.


Also hypothetically, Korean mappers could be going around and posting NWMC on fmkorea/ygosu and reach an even bigger audience (who'd presumably vote for "their" maps), but as far as I know, they don't.


We have advertised for voting on EDAC (largest Korean map site) and the ASL forum on afreeca. The participants we got from there didn’t result in a flood of votes for predominantly one map. So far there haven’t been any issues like this and everything has been pretty smooth sailing up until this point.

We’re working on a solution to move forward and probably should shadow TLMC methods from now on.

A seriously unfortunate turn of events.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States739 Posts
May 22 2023 09:44 GMT
#131
On May 22 2023 17:33 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2023 11:24 MineraIs wrote:
On May 22 2023 05:14 iRkSupperman wrote:
On May 22 2023 05:08 Malongo wrote:
On May 22 2023 05:02 iRkSupperman wrote:
Way to make your reputation in the community that of a sore loser. GJ Minerals.

And I even agree to some extent that it's obviously going to lead to biased voting when a participant is promoting the contest to a new audience. But so has Minerals (and other mappers) done as well with the previous rounds of NWMC. Testbug just did it towards a new (and the largest foreign) audience. Makes one wonder if future map contests should have a bit of a different format, which isn't as likely to become a personal popularity contest.

Quite sad for the participants/mappers who aren't direct parties, but still affected by this drama.

I think latam audience is not even the largest, us and eu are way more relevant overall.


Also hypothetically, Korean mappers could be going around and posting NWMC on fmkorea/ygosu and reach an even bigger audience (who'd presumably vote for "their" maps), but as far as I know, they don't.


We have advertised for voting on EDAC (largest Korean map site) and the ASL forum on afreeca. The participants we got from there didn’t result in a flood of votes for predominantly one map. So far there haven’t been any issues like this and everything has been pretty smooth sailing up until this point.

We’re working on a solution to move forward and probably should shadow TLMC methods from now on.

A seriously unfortunate turn of events.


Stay tuned
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Terrorterran
Profile Joined January 2009
Peru252 Posts
May 22 2023 19:05 GMT
#132
1. Paranoid Android. love it for 2x2
2. Champion. love it for 1x1

❤️❤️❤️❤️ spread love ❤️❤️❤️❤️

GG
fireboy011
Profile Joined February 2023
Israel3 Posts
May 22 2023 22:58 GMT
#133
1. Paranoid Android
2. Champion

pevsner#2583
Fkc)Bishop
Profile Joined April 2007
Peru82 Posts
May 22 2023 23:46 GMT
#134
1. Paranoid Andriod
2. Champion

"Lo que llaman talento no es otra cosa más que un arduo y continuo trabajo realizado correctamente"
Suricatta
Profile Joined November 2021
23 Posts
May 23 2023 00:19 GMT
#135
Link to the finalist maps:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/16lD0KH8ozL3_DFOAYdzSaNKUNdMYUTri/view?usp=sharing

Paranoid Android 2.0
Sand Storm 0.99.9e
Champion 1.32
Lights Out 3.3
MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States739 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-23 21:47:12
May 23 2023 01:35 GMT
#136
Results are
1)PA
2)Sandstorm
3)Champion
4)Lights Out

Congratulations jOjO on winning best new mapper with Lights Out!

An additional shout out to Suri for breakout mapper of the year with major improvements!




Stay Tuned for the announcement of New Worlds Star League!
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Profile Joined March 2019
Poland3363 Posts
May 23 2023 07:05 GMT
#137
On May 23 2023 10:35 MineraIs wrote:
Results are
1)PA
2/3)Sandstorm or Champion
4)Lights Out

Congratulations jOjO on winning best new mapper with Lights Out!

An additional shout out to Suri for breakout mapper of the year with major improvements!




Stay Tuned for the announcement of New Worlds Star League!

Sounds good
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
ESC.BlAckSuN
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany46 Posts
May 24 2023 01:48 GMT
#138
1. Lights Out
2. Paranoid Android
Suricatta
Profile Joined November 2021
23 Posts
May 24 2023 23:52 GMT
#139
On May 23 2023 09:19 Suricatta wrote:
Link to the finalist maps:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/16lD0KH8ozL3_DFOAYdzSaNKUNdMYUTri/view?usp=sharing

Paranoid Android 2.0
Sand Storm 0.99.9e
Champion 1.32
Lights Out 3.3


Updated the map pack to include Paranoid Android 2.1
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9075 Posts
May 26 2023 16:47 GMT
#140
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