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oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1193 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-18 23:27:56
April 18 2023 23:27 GMT
#141
I think Hero has a bit of a choker side to him in these big tourneys as well. His level was just...not up to what you regularly see from him.

It's funny cause Best is also a master at this. After the semifinals he had a game against Mind in ProLeague and he blasted him like he was a rank below his level. How the tournament pressure makes or breaks a player chances.
Artas1984
Profile Joined August 2018
131 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-18 23:41:07
April 18 2023 23:30 GMT
#142
On April 18 2023 20:29 TMNT wrote:
I want Hero to advance because that way Best would never have to "what if", as he'd lose to Hero in the finals anyway.

Also Hero has been to semis and finals for countless times without ever winning one. He's due one title.


Those were exactly my thoughts.. Hero at this point is the most consistent top pro in ASL to always go far and not win a trophy. Well at least this match was entertaining, unlike Best vs. Mind... But i do have to say, JYJ vs. Soulkey was better.

On April 19 2023 03:01 RJBTV wrote:
Mini and Soma being in Ro16 would have changed everything dramatically because they are, with light, the most dominant players in online play. But as this ASL has shown, online play =/= offline play.


You don't know that. Mini and Soma might have flopped spectacularly in the RO16 just like they did in RO24. If they sucked in RO24, chances are they would have sucked in RO16 as well. Also, Snow is the MOST dominant player online, and BY FAR. His win-rate coming to this ASL was a whopping 10 % higher than anybody's. He was the true nr. 1 favorite to win this season.
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States361 Posts
April 19 2023 01:00 GMT
#143
JyJ to take ASL15, his TvT over Rush was all I need to see.

I was CLENCHING, herO starting off 2-0 had me so worried, esp since it was the most significant loss of vessels JyJ had in the entire ASL run. Coming back with the Vermeer timing and the Dark Origin Tank push only to narrowly lose to a 4pool.

The final game 8rax 2port wraith reminded me a lot of JyJ's final game vs SK. The conversion into a win was a little drawn out, but man it was so exciting as someone rooting for JyJ.
barcodejester
Profile Joined March 2022
24 Posts
April 19 2023 01:33 GMT
#144
I am down with some high level TvT. I need to start posting mind vods when terran players cry about protoss being low apm.

250 apm terran smashing his way to the finals in "anti terran maps"
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19270 Posts
April 19 2023 01:46 GMT
#145
What a way to make wraith look broken! Grats to JyJ! Hero did a fair job in his worst matchup which is all we could hope for.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
FreyasSpirit
Profile Joined September 2020
2 Posts
April 19 2023 03:02 GMT
#146
On April 18 2023 21:50 Zariel wrote:
I dont get why TvT finals is all that bad to be honest, maybe cuz I'm a terran purist. I really like the chess and strategical aspect of it


Between two mediocre players, TvT can drag on with not much happening. Between two top tier players, TvT creates some of the most intense multitask games out there.

TvT between two high level players is the dream finals
Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova275 Posts
April 19 2023 05:54 GMT
#147
Final TvT
Score 4-3
Every game 30+ minutes )))
Subscribe to my YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Sonic_md...."SC:BW it is just game, but i love this game!" (c)Sonic_md.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7808 Posts
April 19 2023 07:01 GMT
#148
Both Mind and JyJ seem hungry this ASL. I think Mind pulls it off. TvT finals, it is a bummer but last season’s finals were pretty entertaining. Hopefully this one as well 👍
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-19 08:34:29
April 19 2023 08:33 GMT
#149
On April 19 2023 08:30 Artas1984 wrote:
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On April 18 2023 20:29 TMNT wrote:
I want Hero to advance because that way Best would never have to "what if", as he'd lose to Hero in the finals anyway.

Also Hero has been to semis and finals for countless times without ever winning one. He's due one title.


Those were exactly my thoughts.. Hero at this point is the most consistent top pro in ASL to always go far and not win a trophy. Well at least this match was entertaining, unlike Best vs. Mind... But i do have to say, JYJ vs. Soulkey was better.

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On April 19 2023 03:01 RJBTV wrote:
Mini and Soma being in Ro16 would have changed everything dramatically because they are, with light, the most dominant players in online play. But as this ASL has shown, online play =/= offline play.


You don't know that. Mini and Soma might have flopped spectacularly in the RO16 just like they did in RO24. If they sucked in RO24, chances are they would have sucked in RO16 as well. Also, Snow is the MOST dominant player online, and BY FAR. His win-rate coming to this ASL was a whopping 10 % higher than anybody's. He was the true nr. 1 favorite to win this season.


leading up to asl snow had the best tvp winrate by a large margin. his pvz was a bit closer to average winrate and his pvp was 50/50. Snow was leading on eloboard together with soma and mini for most of january and february. but then in march snow fell down a couple ranks and his winrate did too. he was still dominant but not as dominant. the meta shifted. soma stayed at the top and mini moved back to the top and so did light. since then soma and light have peaked at the highest eloboard ratings since it started.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
April 19 2023 08:35 GMT
#150
Yikes, TvT finals again, hard pass from me.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2906 Posts
April 19 2023 09:42 GMT
#151
Rooting for Mind but probably won't watch the finals because I absolute despise TvT.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2859 Posts
April 19 2023 10:16 GMT
#152
I just realized that since Flash went away, there has been 5 ASLs, of which we have 3 Terran winners and 6 finalists.

Meanwhile, online the overall win rate for Terran hasn't changed one bit.

Certainly no one's gonna be able to say "It's just Flash" now.
Comedy
Profile Joined March 2016
456 Posts
April 19 2023 10:45 GMT
#153
On April 19 2023 19:16 TMNT wrote:
I just realized that since Flash went away, there has been 5 ASLs, of which we have 3 Terran winners and 6 finalists.

Meanwhile, online the overall win rate for Terran hasn't changed one bit.

Certainly no one's gonna be able to say "It's just Flash" now.


Artosis will
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2058 Posts
April 19 2023 11:25 GMT
#154
Kinda shame about TvT final, but pleased for JyJ, and also pretty good series. There were some good epic moments.

No 3rd place play-off eh?
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2058 Posts
April 19 2023 11:28 GMT
#155
On April 19 2023 03:31 outscar wrote:
Is 2 port wraith JyJ's new secret weapon? He closed both TvZ series with that.
All that 5 zergs ro8 to give us TvT final. Terran is the master race! 910 needs to come up with HEAVY anti terran maps next season lol (+ anti FlaSh ^^).

Also what's up with falling out of chair whenever you seeded to finals lol. Last season RoyaL now JyJ.


For some reason there's a step close behind the chairs, so they want to jump up in excitement, and then the chair gets caught...
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
April 19 2023 13:41 GMT
#156
On April 19 2023 20:25 Simplistik wrote:
Kinda shame about TvT final, but pleased for JyJ, and also pretty good series. There were some good epic moments.

No 3rd place play-off eh?

Yeah, I'm sad they seem to have removed that. Sometimes they're underwhelming, but there have been some really good series that came out of those matches.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
April 19 2023 21:00 GMT
#157
TvT finals again man, I'm eating good. Best matchup in BW.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4211 Posts
April 20 2023 08:01 GMT
#158
On April 19 2023 19:16 TMNT wrote:
I just realized that since Flash went away, there has been 5 ASLs, of which we have 3 Terran winners and 6 finalists.

Meanwhile, online the overall win rate for Terran hasn't changed one bit.

Certainly no one's gonna be able to say "It's just Flash" now.

The dumb myth of "protoss op" and "poor terran plz buff" will never cease, no matter what happens.. you can count on that.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4211 Posts
April 20 2023 08:03 GMT
#159
On April 19 2023 14:54 Sonic_md wrote:
Final TvT
Score 4-3
Every game 30+ minutes )))

*fingers crossed* ! ! !
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Maks
Profile Joined December 2010
Ukraine167 Posts
April 21 2023 10:02 GMT
#160
Who can say after that Flash is the best Starcraft player? How do you separate the strength of the Terrans from that of the Flash? Flash has retired, yet Terran players continue to dominate the scene.
Kim "ZerO" Myung Woon: I think that there is no way to beat a good Terran as Zerg. This is mainly because good mutalisk micro just cannot beat good marine-medic micro.
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