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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
April 17 2023 10:42 GMT
#21
Arbiterles recall is fun to watch but it does not seem very effective.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 17 2023 10:44 GMT
#22
Terran might actually win on HBR.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4990 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-17 10:45:54
April 17 2023 10:44 GMT
#23
Looks like (T)FanTaSy is playing Protoss
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4990 Posts
April 17 2023 10:47 GMT
#24
Wtf is this gg timing? Come on. Just go next bro
FBH #1!
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
April 17 2023 10:48 GMT
#25
Game was over 20 minutes ago excellent gg timing best
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 17 2023 10:49 GMT
#26
Poll: Recommend Mind vs BeSt Game 1?

Yes (9)
 
50%

No (5)
 
28%

If you have time (4)
 
22%

18 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Mind vs BeSt Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4990 Posts
April 17 2023 10:49 GMT
#27
Like.. If you're going to stay in the game at least retake 12 and take top left and force Mind to attack instead of sitting in mid.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4990 Posts
April 17 2023 10:53 GMT
#28
I'm not keen on seeing anymore SKT1 shuttle play. Neither Bisu or BeSt knows how to unload multiple shuttles properly. Even if they did know, recall is much superior to shuttles. More than 1-2 Shuttles past mid game are just wasted psi.
FBH #1!
Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1285 Posts
April 17 2023 10:59 GMT
#29
Mind is playing well today. He protected his tank count which allowed him to expand and trade super effectively.

Partly Best to blame himself as he didnt tech to arbiters for stasis and relying on shuttle play which didnt reduce the tank count
sup
Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1285 Posts
April 17 2023 11:03 GMT
#30
Standard play for game 2. Cross spawns

Best with 1 gate goon expand

Mind with FD
sup
Minely
Profile Blog Joined December 2022
60 Posts
April 17 2023 11:08 GMT
#31
*notes "7 probes is the magic number" ~Nyoken; ~7 minutes into Vermeer game
Carmine-Lee Boscioli
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1180 Posts
April 17 2023 11:12 GMT
#32
Mind is playing the opponent perfectly.

Knows that vulture defense is Best' weakness and exploits exactly that.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
April 17 2023 11:19 GMT
#33
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Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4098 Posts
April 17 2023 11:19 GMT
#34
Mind playing like he owns this ASL.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
April 17 2023 11:20 GMT
#35
Come on Best get your shit together, you are better than this.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Galacsia
Profile Joined February 2020
Chile161 Posts
April 17 2023 11:22 GMT
#36
Something must have gone wrong with Best's practice. He normally makes a lot of Goons and Templars while today it's been mainly Zealots. Maybe he got adivce from Bisu lol
BeSt / Bisu ftw!!
Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1285 Posts
April 17 2023 11:22 GMT
#37
Sheesh, when enemy has more tanks than you have zealots... does not bode well for a protoss.

Once again, Best failed to find ways to reduce a T's tank count which ultimately leads to T being able to a-move across the map.

Also, he tried shuttle play (lesser degree than last game) which did not work out.
sup
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2715 Posts
April 17 2023 11:24 GMT
#38
On April 17 2023 20:12 oxKnu wrote:
Mind is playing the opponent perfectly.

Knows that vulture defense is Best' weakness and exploits exactly that.

Was that so? Dragoons were always in position to defend. I don't think Best could do much better than that. The Vultures effectively suicided themselves to get value.

The two early and mid game (failed) pushes from Best was the main reason he lost.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1180 Posts
April 17 2023 11:25 GMT
#39
I think a 4-0 is incoming. Mind is just hard countering this shuttle-templar style and Best is failing to adapt.

In this Vermeer game there was a point where Best didn't even know that the whole map was filled with mines. At that point the game was lost anyway.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1180 Posts
April 17 2023 11:27 GMT
#40
On April 17 2023 20:24 TMNT wrote:
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On April 17 2023 20:12 oxKnu wrote:
Mind is playing the opponent perfectly.

Knows that vulture defense is Best' weakness and exploits exactly that.

Was that so? Dragoons were always in position to defend. I don't think Best could do much better than that. The Vultures effectively suicided themselves to get value.

The two early and mid game (failed) pushes from Best was the main reason he lost.


He had 2 goons to defend 6+ vultures + drop.

Now, he had failed to scout anything in that game so he wouldn't know this, which was the main problem.
The game was lost by the time he got to attack.
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