EPT[ASL15] Ro4 Day 1 - Page 7
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Magic Powers
Austria4359 Posts
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Nirli
Bulgaria372 Posts
Championship mentality. Best playing defensively all ASL and he finally met someone who is also good at defensive play but also extremely calm and strategically-oriented. What did you think the result was gonna be? For the Protoss guys out there, Mind is the Terran Rain. Always big picture, planning and strategy first, execution second. | ||
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reincremate
China2216 Posts
Anyway, reading all the complaints about this series makes me think us BW fans are a bit spoilt. A series doesn't have to have perfect decision-making and execution to be entertaining. This has been one of the best ASLs ever. | ||
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whylessness
United States376 Posts
On April 21 2023 14:42 Nirli wrote: Always bet on Mind. Championship mentality. Best playing defensively all ASL and he finally met someone who is also good at defensive play but also extremely calm and strategically-oriented. What did you think the result was gonna be? For the Protoss guys out there, Mind is the Terran Rain. Always big picture, planning and strategy first, execution second. rain has extremely good army movement and micro tho. or he used to | ||
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Nirli
Bulgaria372 Posts
On April 21 2023 17:25 whylessness wrote: rain has extremely good army movement and micro tho. or he used to Never said he doesn't. | ||
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TMNT
2859 Posts
I saw this game between  Shuttle and  Mind today in Proleague and it reminds me of exactly how Best should have handled this series. Shuttle played exactly like Best in terms of style in this game (he was stuck on shuttle templar tech for 35 minutes), except that he is a much worse PvT player than Best, while Mind played exactly like he played against Best.The mid game went awful for Shuttle as Mind faced almost no difficulty maxing out on 4 bases. But somehow it prevented Shuttle from suiciding his whole army into Mind's defending positions. Instead he focused on expanding and delaying Mind's death push with storm. By the time Mind was able to park at Shuttle's natural (and destroyed his nat and third bases) and have 6 bases himself (yes, 6 bases for Terran), Shuttle was already well set on the other corner of the map, mining on 4 bases himself and building all the extra gateways on the other main. From that point on, the game was all about Mind pushing and Shuttle defending with storm. The extra apm needed to control his army all over the map made Mind slipping up on his macro (he's not a high apm Terran), so despite having 6 bases he wasn't able to expand more. Meanwhile Shuttle got some juicy storms and he was able to start to counter and destroy 2 of Mind's bases (Terran can't cover the whole map effectively). The game ended with Shuttle mining from only his second main, but Mind just didn't have any mining base, then Shuttle was able to run him over with his army. It's funny because I feel like Shuttle got into that position not because he intended to play like that, but he was forced to defend. And he ended up winning. Meanwhile Best tried so hard to force the issue and ended up destroying his own army and his macro. | ||
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Piste
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Dante08
Singapore4128 Posts
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J. Corsair
United States470 Posts
On April 21 2023 17:15 reincremate wrote: Mind has the mental fortitude of a former champ, which is a strong counter to perennial choking. Anyway, reading all the complaints about this series makes me think us BW fans are a bit spoilt. A series doesn't have to have perfect decision-making and execution to be entertaining. This has been one of the best ASLs ever. Couldn't agree more. It wasn't the most exciting series but the complaining is completely unwarranted. | ||
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Sabu113
United States11063 Posts
Best seems like a bad AI. Mindless macro no ability to shift and adapt. Looked behind the whole series. Not even some slick micro. Just gamble on being able to macro and throw hordes of zealots. | ||
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RJBTV
194 Posts
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HOLYBATS
Turkey741 Posts
On April 25 2023 00:39 RJBTV wrote: And snow very onesidedly destroyed Rush, Barracks, Royal and Light in the last couple Ultimate battles to counter argument the Tesagi sayers. But lost to Light in the last couple ASLs. | ||
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TMNT
2859 Posts
Snow 7-2 Rush Snow 8-1 Royal Snow 7-2 Light 27 games and the top 3 Terrans in the world take a combined 5 games off Snow. I think he's at his peak PvT skill. But tbh I don't think it counters the Tesagi argument. Just like when Flash beat everyone with similar scores, it doesn't support Tesagi argument. Snow is just currently the Flash of PvT. | ||
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Nirli
Bulgaria372 Posts
Maybe this section is more suitable for the above discussion? The current thread is for people who are playing in the ASL final. | ||
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TMNT
2859 Posts
On April 25 2023 13:47 Nirli wrote: https://tl.net/forum/fan-clubs/ Maybe this section is more suitable for the above discussion? The current thread is for people who are playing in the ASL final. It's still relevant because the topic of discussion is Tesagi and one person suggested it was not the case because another Protoss can comfortably beat Terran. Even a little bit off topic is no problem and it's not like it's going on for 3 pages. More importantly, how about you stop being butthurt and act obnoxiously every time there's something related to Snow. We get it. You hate him. Get over it. | ||
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QOGQOG
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oEkY
Germany649 Posts
On April 26 2023 23:22 QOGQOG wrote: I thought Mind had won this one, but Liquibets tell me I was wrong about that shhhhh!! i'm currently ranked #1 because of this fault!  | ||
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Piste
6179 Posts
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M2
Bulgaria4126 Posts
On April 28 2023 01:11 Piste wrote: Will there be a third place match? I couldn't find any date for it. nope | ||
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Piste
6179 Posts
what? that is crazy! honestly was waiting for it more than the finals  | ||
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