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Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
210 Posts
March 27 2023 14:09 GMT
#261
i think that its total, ive observed JDs stream and the donation he gets during the raising stage and its not that big for sure his donation actually match one of the list numbers so i think thats the total... not 100% sure obv
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2831 Posts
March 27 2023 14:36 GMT
#262
On March 27 2023 23:09 Zografa wrote:
i think that its total, ive observed JDs stream and the donation he gets during the raising stage and its not that big for sure his donation actually match one of the list numbers so i think thats the total... not 100% sure obv

Nah it's 100% per winner. I don't speak Korean at conversational level but know the language enough to understand what's on screen. But redknights (who's native Korean I think) can assure you that.

The donation is really THAT big. Watch carefully again. For example in this video yesterday, when a viewer donated 200 balloons (200 개), Mini didn't write the total, instead he wrote down in his notepad as 50 개 (divided by 4 because there would be 4 winners).
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
210 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-27 15:19:45
March 27 2023 15:19 GMT
#263
idk, mb you are right... i just cant believe that those guys run 5-10k$ tournaments on daily basis with notepads... 25 years old game

I mean compare it to wc3 scene, where u have at best a regular weekly 100$ tournament and few monthly and quarterly bigger once, and the biggest is like 10k$ total once in 3 months lol...
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8690 Posts
March 27 2023 17:35 GMT
#264
두 means per head. so tmnt is right
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
March 27 2023 18:24 GMT
#265
On March 27 2023 23:36 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2023 23:09 Zografa wrote:
i think that its total, ive observed JDs stream and the donation he gets during the raising stage and its not that big for sure his donation actually match one of the list numbers so i think thats the total... not 100% sure obv

Nah it's 100% per winner. I don't speak Korean at conversational level but know the language enough to understand what's on screen. But redknights (who's native Korean I think) can assure you that.

The donation is really THAT big. Watch carefully again. For example in this video yesterday, when a viewer donated 200 balloons (200 개), Mini didn't write the total, instead he wrote down in his notepad as 50 개 (divided by 4 because there would be 4 winners).


On March 28 2023 02:35 evilfatsh1t wrote:
두 means per head. so tmnt is right

That donation amount for tonight's proleague is insane considering it's a 5v5

Though I was born in Korea I've lived in America for over 30 years, I do use Korean in my professional life (watching Afreeca has helped keep my Korean fresh lmao)

Yes 두 is referring to "each" so 두 100개 = 100 each = 400 overall in a 4v4 proleague

Sometimes if an amount donated is easily divided by 5 but awkwardly divisible by 4, the player will add the divided-by-5 number into the donation pot (and pocket the rest)

For example if a player gets 500 star balloon donation for funding, they will put in 100 x 4 = 400 into the donation pool and then pocket the remaining 100 (instead of putting 125 x 4 into the donation pool)
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
210 Posts
March 27 2023 20:06 GMT
#266
ok so confirmed insane prize pools? i mean if we go back and collect info for last 2-3 months mb they gave hundreds of thousands of USD in terms of donations? and they say BW is dead?
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
March 27 2023 20:28 GMT
#267
On March 28 2023 05:06 Zografa wrote:
ok so confirmed insane prize pools? i mean if we go back and collect info for last 2-3 months mb they gave hundreds of thousands of USD in terms of donations? and they say BW is dead?

no need to collect info, Koreans already do it:

http://eloboard.com/men/bbs/board.php?bo_table=pro_league&wr_id=900

click on a random ones to see what the prize pool is on a given night
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-27 22:14:35
March 27 2023 20:46 GMT
#268
Also as I may have mentioned before, the really insane prize pools are a result of loaded individual viewers ("큰손") donating rather than a lot of smaller donations pooled up

In tonight's proleague, known 큰손 "52bang" gave Rush 7000 star balloons per winner (35000 star balloons total - roughly $3500). Rush only collected 100 star balloons per winner from other viewers.

not stopping there, 52bang also gave Sharp 4000 star balloons per winner (20000 star balloons total - roughly $2000). Sharp collected 500 star balloons per winner from other viewers.

So a single viewer contributed $5500 to the prize pool for a daily proleague.

(also can't confirm bc his VOD is not yet available bc he's still streaming, 52bang probably contributed some more star balloons to YSC's pool)

Edit: 52bang also funded the entirety of YSC's contribution - 3000 star balloons per winner (15000 star balloons total - roughly $1500)

updated total contribution from one single viewer = $7,000
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
210 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-27 22:53:44
March 27 2023 22:52 GMT
#269
Am i getting this correct? So the top 3 in terms of winning from proleagues for this year are Royal, JD and Soma?
They won about 30k$ each(+-1-2k). This is just the first 3 months lol.

The total amount top15 won is 300k USD.

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TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2831 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-29 14:41:59
March 28 2023 15:01 GMT
#270
ASL over, time for Proleague again




MAJOR PROLEAGUE, MAR 28 2023

[Team 1] Mini Rush Sharp Jaedong
vs [Team 2] Shuttle Stork JYJ Soma

SET 1 (BO5 PROLEAGUE)
Mini <Neo Heartbreak Ridge> Stork
Jaedong <Retro> Shuttle
Rush <Nemesis> Soma
+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
Sharp <Dark Origin> JYJ

+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Sharp <Vermeer> Shuttle



SET 2 (WINNERS LEAGUE)
Jaedong <Neo Heartbreak Ridge> Shuttle
+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Jaedong <Vermeer> JYJ

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Mini <Retro> JYJ

+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
Mini <Nemesis> Stork

+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Sharp <Neo Sylphid> Stork

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Sharp <Dark Origin> Soma

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +
Rush <Neo Sylphid> Soma


SUPER ACE
+ Show Spoiler +
Sharp <Retro> Shuttle


+ Show Spoiler [Set 1 Results] +
Mini < Stork
Jaedong > Shuttle
Rush > Soma
Sharp < JYJ
Sharp > Shuttle

+ Show Spoiler [Set 2 Results] +
Jaedong > Shuttle
Jaedong < JYJ
Mini > JYJ
Mini < Stork
Sharp > Stork
Sharp < Soma
Rush < Soma

+ Show Spoiler [FINAL RESULTS] +
One of the rare occasions where Shuttle wins a super ace.
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
March 29 2023 00:06 GMT
#271
On March 29 2023 00:01 TMNT wrote:

+ Show Spoiler +
Everyone won a game :D
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
210 Posts
March 29 2023 14:37 GMT
#272
Sanpao league running right now Snow vs Royal bo7

(Wiki)Special:Stream/huya/Plu%E4%B8%89%E7%82%AE%EF%BC%88Sanpao StarLeague%EF%BC%89

TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2831 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-30 04:32:14
March 29 2023 14:39 GMT
#273
And the usual Proleague organized by Shuttle



MAJOR PROLEAGUE, MAR 29 2023

[Team 1] Mini Best Shuttle Jaedong
vs [Team 2] Sharp JYJ Soulkey Soma

SET 1 (PROLEAGUE)
Mini <Retro> Soma
Best <Neo Sylphid> Soulkey
Shuttle <Dark Origin> JYJ
Jaedong <Vermeer> Sharp
+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Jaedong <Nemesis> Soulkey

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Best <Neo Heartbreak Ridge> JYJ

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +


SET 2 (WINNERS LEAGUE)
Shuttle <Vermeer> Sharp
+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Mini <Neo Heartbreak Ridge> Sharp

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Mini <Retro> Soulkey

+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
Jaedong <Dark Origin> Soulkey

+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Best <Nemesis> Soulkey

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +


SUPER ACE
+ Show Spoiler +
Jaedong <Neo Sylphid> Soulkey


+ Show Spoiler [Set 1 Results] +
Mini < Soma
Best > Soulkey
Shuttle > JYJ
Jaedong > Sharp
Jaedong < Soulkey
Best > JYJ

+ Show Spoiler [Set 2 Results] +
Shuttle < Sharp
Mini > Sharp
Mini < Soulkey
Jaedong < Soulkey
Best < Soulkey

+ Show Spoiler [FINAL RESULTS] +
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
210 Posts
March 29 2023 18:50 GMT
#274
+ Show Spoiler +
JD won the Ace match vs Soulkey and apparantly it was very interesting because mini went over other pro's streams and they were all discussing it. It was a close game with the first muta micro battle going JDs way.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2831 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-31 13:57:20
March 30 2023 12:39 GMT
#275



MAJOR PROLEAGUE, MAR 30 2023

[Team 1] Mini Snow Mind Royal Queen
vs [Team 2] Light Rush Soulkey Jaedong Soma

SET 1 (PROLEAGUE)
Mini <Neo Heartbreak Ridge> Soma
Royal <Vermeer> Jaedong
Mind <Retro> Soulkey
Snow <Dark Origin> Light
+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Queen <Nemesis> Rush

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Queen <Neo Sylphid> Soulkey

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +


SET 2 (WINNERS LEAGUE)
Queen <Vermeer> Soulkey
+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Queen <Dark Origin> Jaedong

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Queen <Nemesis> Light

+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
Queen <Neo Sylphid> Rush

+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Snow <Retro> Rush

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Snow <Neo Heartbreak Ridge> Soma

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 8] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 9] +


SUPER ACE
+ Show Spoiler +
Queen <Neo Heartbreak Ridge> Light


+ Show Spoiler [Set 1 Results] +
Mini < Soma
Royal > Jaedong
Mind < Soulkey
Snow < Light
Queen > Rush
Queen < Soulkey

+ Show Spoiler [Set 2 Results] +
Queen > Soulkey
Queen > Jaedong
Queen > Light
Queen < Rush
Snow > Rush
Snow > Soma

+ Show Spoiler [FINAL RESULTS] +
Queen with a very good performance today with the most wins (4), yet he couldn't win the game that matters most, losing the super ace to Light

TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2831 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-01 13:18:36
March 31 2023 13:56 GMT
#276



MAJOR PROLEAGUE, MAR 31 2023

[Team 1] Mini Snow Bisu Light
vs [Team 2] Best Mind Soma Jaedong

SET 1 (PROLEAGUE)
Bisu <Retro> Best
Light <Vermeer> Soma
Snow <Nemesis> Mind
Mini <Neo Heartbreak Ridge> Jaedong
+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +


SET 2 (WINNERS LEAGUE)
Bisu <Vermeer> Jaedong
+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Bisu <Neo Heartbreak Ridge> Soma

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Bisu <Dark Origin> Best

+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
Bisu <Nemesis> Mind

+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +


SUPER ACE
+ Show Spoiler +


+ Show Spoiler [Set 1 Results] +
Bisu > Best
Light > Soma
Snow > Mind
Mini > Jaedong

+ Show Spoiler [Set 2 Results] +
Bisu > Jaedong
Bisu > Soma
Bisu > Best
Bisu > Mind

+ Show Spoiler [FINAL RESULTS] +
The most one-sided Proleague this month. But it's no surprise when you look at the line-ups for both teams (how did they divide the players like that I'll never understand). Team 1 are all eliminated from ASL while Team 2 have 3 quaterfinalists. Team 2 should smash, right?

Oh wait... it was Team 1 which brutally beat Team 2 4-0 and 4-0. In all honesty, Team 1 actually consists of ASL champion caliber players while Team 2 is more like a Ro16 squad. Bisu's all-kill today should cheer him up a little bit after the lastest ASL results.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2831 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-03 16:49:56
April 01 2023 13:17 GMT
#277



MAJOR PROLEAGUE, APR 01 2023

[Team 1] Mini Light Soma Soulkey
vs [Team 2] Bisu Royal JYJ Hero

SET 1 (PROLEAGUE)
Light <Neo Heartbreak Ridge> Bisu
Soma <Vermeer> Hero
Soulkey <Dark Origin> JYJ
Mini <Nemesis> Royal
+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Soma <Neo Sylphid> Hero

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +


SET 2 (WINNERS LEAGUE)
Soma <Neo Sylphid> Bisu
+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Soma <Neo Heartbreak Ridge> Royal

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Soma <Vermeer> JYJ

+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
Soma <Retro> Hero

+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Light <Nemesis> Hero

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +


SUPER ACE
+ Show Spoiler +
Light <Nemesis> Bisu


+ Show Spoiler [Set 1 Results] +
Light < Bisu
Soma < Hero
Soulkey < JYJ
Mini > Royal
Soma < Hero

+ Show Spoiler [Set 2 Results] +
Soma > Bisu
Soma > Royal
Soma > JYJ
Soma < Hero
Light > Hero

+ Show Spoiler [FINAL RESULTS] +
After beaten 1-4 in Set 1, Soma with almost an all-kill in Set 2 to save his team, before Light took down Bisu in the super ace to complete the comeback
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-01 15:18:17
April 01 2023 15:17 GMT
#278
On March 31 2023 22:56 TMNT wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [FINAL RESULTS] +

Team 1 actually consists of ASL champion caliber players while Team 2 is more like a Ro16 squad.



Going to strongly disagree with your comment here.
+ Show Spoiler +

You're saying that team 2 is all Ro16 talent and not Ro8 or champion caliber, yet they are all in Ro8. Team one isn't. Yes team 1 is currently placed well on Eloboard, but Team 2 has Jaedong who was #1 on Eloboard for a few days just last month, Best who is currently ranked 5th and Soma who has not been outside of the top 10 on Eloboard since it began last year, and had been top 10 on sponbbang for the two years prior to Eloboard. Soma's spent more time in the top 5 on these Elo rating boards then in the top 6-10. It is simply an unfair and untrue statement to say they're more like a "ro16 squad". Except for Mind. Mind's overall the weakest performing member going by his match history past 3 months.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2831 Posts
April 01 2023 15:46 GMT
#279
On April 02 2023 00:17 RJBTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2023 22:56 TMNT wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [FINAL RESULTS] +

Team 1 actually consists of ASL champion caliber players while Team 2 is more like a Ro16 squad.



Going to strongly disagree with your comment here.
+ Show Spoiler +

You're saying that team 2 is all Ro16 talent and not Ro8 or champion caliber, yet they are all in Ro8. Team one isn't. Yes team 1 is currently placed well on Eloboard, but Team 2 has Jaedong who was #1 on Eloboard for a few days just last month, Best who is currently ranked 5th and Soma who has not been outside of the top 10 on Eloboard since it began last year, and had been top 10 on sponbbang for the two years prior to Eloboard. Soma's spent more time in the top 5 on these Elo rating boards then in the top 6-10. It is simply an unfair and untrue statement to say they're more like a "ro16 squad". Except for Mind. Mind's overall the weakest performing member going by his match history past 3 months.

You are absolutely right. I intentionally overexaggerated there a bit for drama hehe.

In truth though, imo Team 1 on average is Ro4 quality (all 4 players) and Team 2 on average is Ro8 quality (Soma being Ro4 and Mind Ro16, with JD and Best Ro8). If you have those 2 teams play each other repeatedly, I'm sure you'll see the score gap keep widening .
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
April 01 2023 19:45 GMT
#280
On April 02 2023 00:46 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2023 00:17 RJBTV wrote:
On March 31 2023 22:56 TMNT wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [FINAL RESULTS] +

Team 1 actually consists of ASL champion caliber players while Team 2 is more like a Ro16 squad.



Going to strongly disagree with your comment here.
+ Show Spoiler +

You're saying that team 2 is all Ro16 talent and not Ro8 or champion caliber, yet they are all in Ro8. Team one isn't. Yes team 1 is currently placed well on Eloboard, but Team 2 has Jaedong who was #1 on Eloboard for a few days just last month, Best who is currently ranked 5th and Soma who has not been outside of the top 10 on Eloboard since it began last year, and had been top 10 on sponbbang for the two years prior to Eloboard. Soma's spent more time in the top 5 on these Elo rating boards then in the top 6-10. It is simply an unfair and untrue statement to say they're more like a "ro16 squad". Except for Mind. Mind's overall the weakest performing member going by his match history past 3 months.

You are absolutely right. I intentionally overexaggerated there a bit for drama hehe.

In truth though, imo Team 1 on average is Ro4 quality (all 4 players) and Team 2 on average is Ro8 quality (Soma being Ro4 and Mind Ro16, with JD and Best Ro8). If you have those 2 teams play each other repeatedly, I'm sure you'll see the score gap keep widening .


yeah over time Team 1 would win more often. Never forget Light's 10 ultimate battle in a row winstreak!
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