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whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
November 07 2021 15:20 GMT
#141
MINI DID IT!! OMG. defeating one of the strongest zergs and two of the strongest terrans (inc. arguably the strongest terran in the world) along the way. so fucking happy for him :'). zergs and terrans can no longer constantly reference sparkle and pvp to discredit the most recent toss ASL win. absolutely glorious.
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1132 Posts
November 07 2021 15:39 GMT
#142
The best asl finals , tied with season 6.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
November 07 2021 15:48 GMT
#143
Not only did Mini win these finals, he almost won the last finals, too. Protoss looking great these days
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
angry_maia
Profile Joined August 2020
332 Posts
November 07 2021 16:18 GMT
#144
On November 08 2021 00:48 Magic Powers wrote:
Not only did Mini win these finals, he almost won the last finals, too. Protoss looking great these days


Heh more like mini looking great. With Best washing our ro24 and snow ro16 (although he was in a tough group), it's hard to say protoss are looking great.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19385 Posts
November 07 2021 17:18 GMT
#145
OMG YESSSSS!!!!! What an amazing finals. Great job by Mini and I'm really proud of the way Rush played too!
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TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3345 Posts
November 07 2021 17:34 GMT
#146
On November 08 2021 00:48 Magic Powers wrote:
Not only did Mini win these finals, he almost won the last finals, too. Protoss looking great these days

I don't think Protoss in general are looking great as a race, it's more like Mini knows how to win a BO7. It's funny that he beat Rush in a series (it could have ended 4-1) but Snow and Best, who are both stronger in PvT, both crashed out against Rush in the wildcard qualifier.

Mini really pulled out all the dirtiest builds of Protoss today. He knows he can't play late game PvT with Arbiter and Gateway units. So, 2 base Carrier all the way and a proxy 99 here and there. I'd imagine Artosis having a hard time casting this finals (12 Nexus cross spawn omg omg...).
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4176 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-07 18:04:49
November 07 2021 18:04 GMT
#147
The whole series was about Mini doing stuff and showing preparations. He deserved better than 4:3 imo, but perhaps is sweeter now. Anyway, people were crying there is only one protoss in round of 8, but actually there was one protoss too many xD
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Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-08 00:39:39
November 07 2021 18:57 GMT
#148
Unbelievable finals. That was incredible. Rush practiced a LOT with Best but apparently that wasn't enough. Carriers carry the legend of the fall once again.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-07 19:19:41
November 07 2021 19:18 GMT
#149
This series was just beautiful. Mini is probably one of the best tosses for unorthodox strategies (yes, I know he went 2 base carrier several times). Those scouts on eclipse were just great, and it didn't feel forced either. Proxy 9/9 gate, 12 nexus, gate core opening etc... all nice. Only wish he went more hts (he did in the second game) or arbiters. Ascension game was ballsy. DT drop, which did decent damage, into carriers. His counter imo lost him the game, because he lost 6+ dragoons to a failed counter, and got steamed rolled. It would've also been over 4-0 if he didn't fumble that second game, which he shouldn't have, but going mass manlots is a sight to behold!

LEGEND OF THE FALL! LEGEND OF THE FALL! LEGEND OF THE FALL! LEGEND OF THE FALL! :D

Rough for Rush, but Mini was just a step ahead with preparation. Bringing it back and almost reverse sweeping was great in itself though it can be debated if that would've been possible had Mini not tilted lol. From my understanding, this whole 2 base carrier build was shut down by Flash back in ASL6, because Mini tried the same stuff on Transistor etc.. and got smacked at the time, so will have to see how this build differs from that though I recall Flash doing a similar timing.

Congrats to Mini! Finally a Protoss champion and in a season where the maps don't heavily favour Protoss too!

On November 07 2021 13:37 BLinD-RawR wrote:
shut up bigfan.

shut up BLinD-RawR. Mini won!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Moopower
Profile Joined May 2017
128 Posts
November 07 2021 20:16 GMT
#150
I never thought that the stove would be a legitimate build
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
November 07 2021 20:58 GMT
#151
carriers felt op on that last map in particular

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Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
November 07 2021 21:08 GMT
#152
Wow, congratulations Mini!!!

The Scouts were amazing!

Rush did a great job. Exciting season for him. I hope he'll be back.

I can't imagine what the nerves must have been like for both players in game 7.

Stork was right all along. Carriers are the way. Just because Flash is a hard counter to carriers, that doesn't mean they're not the way :D
May the BeSt man win.
Alessandro74
Profile Joined May 2021
5 Posts
November 07 2021 21:58 GMT
#153
Man, I can't describe how happy I am for Mini (as a toss user)

ASL 7
KSL 3
ASL 11

And finally...

However, I feel a bit sad for Rush. Few years ago everyone was like "ASLxCHAMPRUSH lol" and now was almost a reality. He skyrocketed his level so much that is insane.
angry_maia
Profile Joined August 2020
332 Posts
November 07 2021 22:09 GMT
#154
On November 08 2021 03:57 Essbee wrote:
Unbelievable finals. That was incredible. Rush practiced a LOT with Best but apparently that wasn't enough. Carriers carries the legend of the fall once again.


i mean this probably explains how he did really well against the shuttle storm style mini tried in game 2. However Best is a very very different toss from Mini.
Alessandro74
Profile Joined May 2021
5 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-07 22:26:11
November 07 2021 22:24 GMT
#155
On November 08 2021 07:09 angry_maia wrote:
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On November 08 2021 03:57 Essbee wrote:
Unbelievable finals. That was incredible. Rush practiced a LOT with Best but apparently that wasn't enough. Carriers carries the legend of the fall once again.


i mean this probably explains how he did really well against the shuttle storm style mini tried in game 2. However Best is a very very different toss from Mini.


atm I think that there's no other protoss who plays like Mini. It's very hard to prepare for someone like him. Maybe Bisu (in general) would be the most similar? or Stork in PvT for the heavy oriented Carrier style? idk
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1548 Posts
November 07 2021 23:26 GMT
#156
So pleased with that result, though I felt quite stressed going into the last game after Mini going from 3-1 to 3-3! Mini is the most exciting player to watch that I've seen in so long, you never know what he'll do, those scouts in game 3 were mad! So pleased (and relieved) he won.

Also, thanks Scan and Nyoken for such fantastic commentary all season, I always feel I'm learning something new listening to you guys, you're both so insightful and your play-by-play is great too, many thanks and keep up the good work. I'll be rooting for Scan in ASL 13!!
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tankgirl
Profile Blog Joined May 2016
Canada531 Posts
November 08 2021 00:11 GMT
#157
i love starcraft so much

ggs
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Soulforged
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Latvia982 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-08 00:14:29
November 08 2021 00:14 GMT
#158
Congratulations to Mini! Well deserved championship.

Re: preparation - against Mini it would be the same kind as you'd do against Shine (if Shine actually practiced a lot)
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
November 08 2021 00:28 GMT
#159
One of the best finals, honestly. Looked like Mini had it but then Rush made things very close.

I'm really impressed with Mini. He knows his own weaknesses and planned around them super well. I honestly didn't think he was likely to win in his worst matchup against such a strong player, but he pulled it off. Rush didn't look bad either—we'll see if ASL13CHAMPRUSH can happen.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8090 Posts
November 08 2021 06:36 GMT
#160
Really looked like Mini was in control of the series the whole time. Was fun to watch. Scouts in a finals is great too.
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