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New Worlds Map Contest: 2nd Edition!
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Hatchet_man
Russian Federation238 Posts
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MineraIs
United States441 Posts
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Hatchet_man
Russian Federation238 Posts
This contest is open for standard, island, experimental, or hybrid maps. Putting island maps aside, how do you determine which map is experimental, standard or hybrid? | ||
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MineraIs
United States441 Posts
On September 28 2021 00:04 Hatchet_man wrote: Putting island maps aside, how do you determine which map is experimental, standard or hybrid? It doesn't really matter what they are categorized as since there aren't separate categories getting voted on. You will know a experimental map when you see it. A popular standard-hybrid map right now I would say is Optimizer due to its mineral-wall opening up a semi-island. I am hoping we see some Monty-hall type maps be submitted. | ||
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Freakling
Germany1444 Posts
On September 28 2021 00:04 Hatchet_man wrote: Putting island maps aside, how do you determine which map is experimental, standard or hybrid? Experimental is any map that is not standard (the threshold is fuzzy, of course). Island and hybrid maps are examples of experimental maps. An island map is any map where players always spawn permanently separated by ground from each other. Hybrid/semi-island concepts would be anything where the separation is either not guaranteed (players could spawn connected by ground) or not permanent. Don't ask me what a "standard hybrid" map is supposed to be, because I haven't got the faintest idea. But I voted that as my preferred category because I am dead set on finding out! Other people's definition of either category may of course wildly diverge from mine. | ||
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Just_a_Moth
Canada1750 Posts
I was wondering when the next NWMC would, and it's sooner than expected. I guess that's to give us a while to work on maps though. | ||
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Hatchet_man
Russian Federation238 Posts
On September 28 2021 05:34 Freakling wrote: Experimental is any map that is not standard (the threshold is fuzzy, of course). Island and hybrid maps are examples of experimental maps. An island map is any map where players always spawn permanently separated by ground from each other. Hybrid/semi-island concepts would be anything where the separation is either not guaranteed (players could spawn connected by ground) or not permanent. Don't ask me what a "standard hybrid" map is supposed to be, because I haven't got the faintest idea. But I voted that as my preferred category because I am dead set on finding out! Other people's definition of either category may of course wildly diverge from mine. There was a controversy in the SC2 section regarding the map making contest. Apparently judges and especially players were prioritizing standard maps over experimental. Thus, making such maps was pointless as they never got a chance to win anything. I'm sure you know what I mean as a map maker yourself So what is the point of submitting maps that aren't standard?Also, looking at the submission rules, I don't see any restriction to submit the maps from previous contest. Are they allowed? | ||
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MineraIs
United States441 Posts
On September 28 2021 18:18 Hatchet_man wrote: There was a controversy in the SC2 section regarding the map making contest. Apparently judges and especially players were prioritizing standard maps over experimental. Thus, making such maps was pointless as they never got a chance to win anything. I'm sure you know what I mean as a map maker yourself So what is the point of submitting maps that aren't standard?Also, looking at the submission rules, I don't see any restriction to submit the maps from previous contest. Are they allowed? In this contest, public voting is the judge so every map is equal. Maps from the Finals of the previous map contest are not allowed, others are. | ||
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Freakling
Germany1444 Posts
On September 28 2021 18:18 Hatchet_man wrote: There was a controversy in the SC2 section regarding the map making contest. Apparently judges and especially players were prioritizing standard maps over experimental. Thus, making such maps was pointless as they never got a chance to win anything. I'm sure you know what I mean as a map maker yourself So what is the point of submitting maps that aren't standard?Also, looking at the submission rules, I don't see any restriction to submit the maps from previous contest. Are they allowed? Finalists from NWMC1 are not eligible. The fact that this contest does not allow for 4 player maps should also help to counteract the tendency towards standard macro maps. 2 player maps are inherently less standardized and allow more freedom in design and 3 player maps have a reputation of being hard to design in the first place. You may want to read my detailed guidelines, which may answer some of your questions. | ||
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ajmbek
Italy399 Posts
They have a lot of normal things but they have also a different meta or there are some tricks that can be done. | ||
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MineraIs
United States441 Posts
On September 29 2021 23:42 ajmbek wrote: I think that BS or HBR can be some examples of a standard hybrid map. They have a lot of normal things but they have also a different meta or there are some tricks that can be done. Yes, exactly. | ||
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TeamThinkQuick
147 Posts
 thinking of ideas | ||
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quaristice
13 Posts
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MineraIs
United States441 Posts
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TeamThinkQuick
147 Posts
On October 16 2021 16:16 MineraIs wrote: I've got a number of maps I am working on! Hopefully should be able to start submitting them in about a week. *pounds table Show us your maps, show us your maps! Thanks for the update~ | ||
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NotoriousSCV
15 Posts
On October 16 2021 15:44 quaristice wrote: i'd love to see someone place a neutral covert ops + nuke silo on a map Maybe neutral covert ops could be a gimmick object, used in walling in some way but also possible to build with to get ghosts in T matchups. Seems too gimmicky prehaps though. | ||
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quaristice
13 Posts
On October 17 2021 12:57 NotoriousSCV wrote: Maybe neutral covert ops could be a gimmick object, used in walling in some way but also possible to build with to get ghosts in T matchups. Seems too gimmicky prehaps though. can convey the concept of a destroyed previous base perhaps | ||
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Freakling
Germany1444 Posts
On October 16 2021 15:44 quaristice wrote: i'd love to see someone place a neutral covert ops + nuke silo on a map That has already been done multiple times… | ||
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quaristice
13 Posts
On October 18 2021 02:18 Freakling wrote: That has already been done multiple times… but have they been used in tournament | ||
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Freakling
Germany1444 Posts
No. And I doubt they ever will. More balance-concerned map makers also put hero units to Mind-Control for Protoss and neutral Creep sources for Zerg on the map, by the way. | ||
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