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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8669 Posts
April 04 2021 11:32 GMT
#41
On April 04 2021 20:25 TMNT wrote:
And that's why you don't do BO1 in this round.
That strategy of JYJ won't get him the win in a BO3, or on a proper map. But hey, it's BO1, let's take a punt so you can eliminate the better player.


Well, it's not like Best played particularly well regardless of the build order disadvantage.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
April 04 2021 11:34 GMT
#42
On April 04 2021 20:24 oxKnu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2021 20:22 prosatan wrote:
gg....And if Best pairs with Action in the final match he might get eliminated....


In a Bo1, every competent Zerg should be an overwhelming favorite against Protoss, especially at this level.



???
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1259 Posts
April 04 2021 11:35 GMT
#43
On April 04 2021 20:25 TMNT wrote:
And that's why you don't do BO1 in this round.
That strategy of JYJ won't get him the win in a BO3, or on a proper map. But hey, it's BO1, let's take a punt so you can eliminate the better player.


What he did was great for the flow of the game as it was scouted by both sides. Also a very good strat for this map in PvT.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 04 2021 11:35 GMT
#44
That drone micro from Action. Killed that scouting SCV. Amazing.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8669 Posts
April 04 2021 11:36 GMT
#45
Perfect reaction by Action vs the runby, omg!
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1259 Posts
April 04 2021 11:36 GMT
#46
On April 04 2021 20:34 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2021 20:24 oxKnu wrote:
On April 04 2021 20:22 prosatan wrote:
gg....And if Best pairs with Action in the final match he might get eliminated....


In a Bo1, every competent Zerg should be an overwhelming favorite against Protoss, especially at this level.



???


Not sure what's the problem here..

I thought it was pretty well known at this point. In a 2-player map things might be different but otherwise, I fully stand by my claim.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 04 2021 11:40 GMT
#47
1 base tank wraith push? Gets scouted by the speed overlord anyways.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8898 Posts
April 04 2021 11:40 GMT
#48
How can you lose the wraiths like that, Sexy ? Very hard to comeback now...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8898 Posts
April 04 2021 11:44 GMT
#49
well...at least i'll have one LB right
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8669 Posts
April 04 2021 11:45 GMT
#50
Ok, this is just beautiful by Action.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 04 2021 11:47 GMT
#51
Really nice drops. Drop defiler and lurker and nothing he has can really counter the darkswarm. Sexy just straight up gg's when he sees the mutas. Doesn't have any anti-air left.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
April 04 2021 11:48 GMT
#52
Wraith openers are too high risk/low reward.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3221 Posts
April 04 2021 11:50 GMT
#53
On April 04 2021 20:30 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
What punt? He sat back and macroed up, then did standard timing pushes with tanks.

He took his third way earlier than "standard timing", counting on either Best not finding out, or not being able to attack because of this map. If Terran has 3 bases and Protoss has 2, Terran simply wins, no amazing skills required.

If the game was played on Eclipse or Polypoid (which it should be because its a BO1), JYJ would never.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 04 2021 11:55 GMT
#54
I would say that is identifying and playing to the strengths of the map. No player is obliged to play the way you want them to play in a competitive game.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3221 Posts
April 04 2021 11:59 GMT
#55
On April 04 2021 20:55 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I would say that is identifying and playing to the strengths of the map. No player is obliged to play the way you want them to play in a competitive game.

True. I dont mean to undermine JYJ strat.
My main point is you shouldn't do BO1 in this round. And if you do, do it on a balanced map.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51067 Posts
April 04 2021 12:01 GMT
#56
Bo1 is fine.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1259 Posts
April 04 2021 12:07 GMT
#57
On April 04 2021 21:01 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Bo1 is fine.


It's a dick move to do it in elimination matches though. Unless it's a throwaway weekend tourney for fun.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8669 Posts
April 04 2021 12:14 GMT
#58
I really don't understand Best's late game. He is playing like he is the zerg, lol.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
April 04 2021 12:16 GMT
#59
It feels like we never got to see a big army clash in this game, only skirmishes.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8669 Posts
April 04 2021 12:17 GMT
#60
Oh, Best discovered T3 units.

On April 04 2021 21:16 nojok wrote:
It feels like we never got to see a big army clash in this game, only skirmishes.


Which is a good thing.
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