• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:35
CEST 21:35
KST 04:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!9Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters2Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)75Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format16[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!18
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" [D] Wireframe Casting Removed
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion HORROR STARCRAFT MOVIE BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ How Famous was FlaSh before his Debut? screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! Escore Tournament - Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs Fighting Spirit mining rates Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Path of Exile ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Series you have seen recently... Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Role of Gaming on Mental Hea…
TrAiDoS
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5655 users

[ASL11] Ro24 Group C - Page 3

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8688 Posts
April 04 2021 11:32 GMT
#41
On April 04 2021 20:25 TMNT wrote:
And that's why you don't do BO1 in this round.
That strategy of JYJ won't get him the win in a BO3, or on a proper map. But hey, it's BO1, let's take a punt so you can eliminate the better player.


Well, it's not like Best played particularly well regardless of the build order disadvantage.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
April 04 2021 11:34 GMT
#42
On April 04 2021 20:24 oxKnu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2021 20:22 prosatan wrote:
gg....And if Best pairs with Action in the final match he might get eliminated....


In a Bo1, every competent Zerg should be an overwhelming favorite against Protoss, especially at this level.



???
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1262 Posts
April 04 2021 11:35 GMT
#43
On April 04 2021 20:25 TMNT wrote:
And that's why you don't do BO1 in this round.
That strategy of JYJ won't get him the win in a BO3, or on a proper map. But hey, it's BO1, let's take a punt so you can eliminate the better player.


What he did was great for the flow of the game as it was scouted by both sides. Also a very good strat for this map in PvT.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 04 2021 11:35 GMT
#44
That drone micro from Action. Killed that scouting SCV. Amazing.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8688 Posts
April 04 2021 11:36 GMT
#45
Perfect reaction by Action vs the runby, omg!
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1262 Posts
April 04 2021 11:36 GMT
#46
On April 04 2021 20:34 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2021 20:24 oxKnu wrote:
On April 04 2021 20:22 prosatan wrote:
gg....And if Best pairs with Action in the final match he might get eliminated....


In a Bo1, every competent Zerg should be an overwhelming favorite against Protoss, especially at this level.



???


Not sure what's the problem here..

I thought it was pretty well known at this point. In a 2-player map things might be different but otherwise, I fully stand by my claim.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 04 2021 11:40 GMT
#47
1 base tank wraith push? Gets scouted by the speed overlord anyways.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8980 Posts
April 04 2021 11:40 GMT
#48
How can you lose the wraiths like that, Sexy ? Very hard to comeback now...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8980 Posts
April 04 2021 11:44 GMT
#49
well...at least i'll have one LB right
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8688 Posts
April 04 2021 11:45 GMT
#50
Ok, this is just beautiful by Action.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 04 2021 11:47 GMT
#51
Really nice drops. Drop defiler and lurker and nothing he has can really counter the darkswarm. Sexy just straight up gg's when he sees the mutas. Doesn't have any anti-air left.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
April 04 2021 11:48 GMT
#52
Wraith openers are too high risk/low reward.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3247 Posts
April 04 2021 11:50 GMT
#53
On April 04 2021 20:30 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
What punt? He sat back and macroed up, then did standard timing pushes with tanks.

He took his third way earlier than "standard timing", counting on either Best not finding out, or not being able to attack because of this map. If Terran has 3 bases and Protoss has 2, Terran simply wins, no amazing skills required.

If the game was played on Eclipse or Polypoid (which it should be because its a BO1), JYJ would never.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 04 2021 11:55 GMT
#54
I would say that is identifying and playing to the strengths of the map. No player is obliged to play the way you want them to play in a competitive game.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3247 Posts
April 04 2021 11:59 GMT
#55
On April 04 2021 20:55 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I would say that is identifying and playing to the strengths of the map. No player is obliged to play the way you want them to play in a competitive game.

True. I dont mean to undermine JYJ strat.
My main point is you shouldn't do BO1 in this round. And if you do, do it on a balanced map.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51109 Posts
April 04 2021 12:01 GMT
#56
Bo1 is fine.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1262 Posts
April 04 2021 12:07 GMT
#57
On April 04 2021 21:01 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Bo1 is fine.


It's a dick move to do it in elimination matches though. Unless it's a throwaway weekend tourney for fun.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8688 Posts
April 04 2021 12:14 GMT
#58
I really don't understand Best's late game. He is playing like he is the zerg, lol.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
April 04 2021 12:16 GMT
#59
It feels like we never got to see a big army clash in this game, only skirmishes.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8688 Posts
April 04 2021 12:17 GMT
#60
Oh, Best discovered T3 units.

On April 04 2021 21:16 nojok wrote:
It feels like we never got to see a big army clash in this game, only skirmishes.


Which is a good thing.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 25m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 648
mouzHeroMarine 637
IndyStarCraft 183
Railgan 62
KnowMe 40
RushiSC 39
MindelVK 26
CosmosSc2 25
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3053
Soulkey 151
Dewaltoss 129
ggaemo 129
Dota 2
XaKoH 320
Pyrionflax271
League of Legends
Trikslyr64
Counter-Strike
fl0m3609
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu440
Other Games
Grubby4617
tarik_tv3101
ceh9767
Beastyqt656
B2W.Neo348
JuggernautJason200
UpATreeSC147
ArmadaUGS146
SteadfastSC53
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 8
• Reevou 5
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 12
• HerbMon 5
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade618
Other Games
• imaqtpie1007
• Shiphtur457
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
4h 25m
The PondCast
14h 25m
Kung Fu Cup
15h 25m
OSC
1d 4h
CrankTV Team League
1d 15h
Replay Cast
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Serral vs SHIN
herO vs Solar
[ Show More ]
Online Event
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Clem vs ByuN
Rogue vs Lambo
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E3

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.