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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
October 18 2020 11:13 GMT
#201
On October 18 2020 12:22 meegrean wrote:
Flash 3-0

I was right!
Brood War loyalist
MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
October 18 2020 11:13 GMT
#202
If flash wins this ASL does that mean he finished starcraft?
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
allmylifethereyougo
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom24 Posts
October 18 2020 11:14 GMT
#203
On October 18 2020 20:13 RKC wrote:
Yeah, seems like players are mind-gaming themselves too much against Flash's random.

Just play safe and solid. Even if you're at disadvantage early game, just gradually chip your way for the win against Flash's P/Z (Flash Terran is just an auto-loss, too bad).



is the strat to just not practice vs T matchups then? since nobody is going to win those games anyway
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
October 18 2020 11:14 GMT
#204
"What if his Random is more dominant than his terran and wins without losing. Like what does that even mean" - Artosis

LMAO

On October 18 2020 20:11 True_Spike wrote:
So far it seems like people playing Flash kill themselves with the way they open the games.

I am really happy with the result though, BW hasn't been as exciting as this for quite a while for me.

Some of his opponents got lucky like Snow with game 2 opening Nexus first against him then he killed him still.

This tournament is as exciting to me as the island map ASL (sparkle i think was the map name) maaaaaaaaan that tournament was sooooooooo fun
this is a quote
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1978 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-18 11:15:49
October 18 2020 11:15 GMT
#205
On October 18 2020 20:13 RKC wrote:
Yeah, seems like players are mind-gaming themselves too much against Flash's random.

Just play safe and solid. Even if you're at disadvantage early game, just gradually chip your way for the win against Flash's P/Z (Flash Terran is just an auto-loss, too bad).


The game on Eclipse showed that's not enough, even when you get a 14cc vs 12 nex game.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-18 11:16:09
October 18 2020 11:15 GMT
#206
On October 18 2020 20:14 allmylifethereyougo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2020 20:13 RKC wrote:
Yeah, seems like players are mind-gaming themselves too much against Flash's random.

Just play safe and solid. Even if you're at disadvantage early game, just gradually chip your way for the win against Flash's P/Z (Flash Terran is just an auto-loss, too bad).



is the strat to just not practice vs T matchups then?
since nobody is going to win those games anyway

LMAO

This is so funny because there is some sense on this. I mean if you are terran and you meet Flash on the bracket that is happening
this is a quote
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
October 18 2020 11:17 GMT
#207
Also, playing tricky against Flash's random risks triggering some unorthodox counter-move from Flash.

And when the game gets weird, higher chance of Flash to prevail due to starsense.
gg no re thx
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5500 Posts
October 18 2020 11:17 GMT
#208
Are we sure Soma is winning against Snow?
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3433 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-18 11:18:17
October 18 2020 11:17 GMT
#209
On October 18 2020 20:15 Garrl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2020 20:13 RKC wrote:
Yeah, seems like players are mind-gaming themselves too much against Flash's random.

Just play safe and solid. Even if you're at disadvantage early game, just gradually chip your way for the win against Flash's P/Z (Flash Terran is just an auto-loss, too bad).


The game on Eclipse showed that's not enough, even when you get a 14cc vs 12 nex game.


He wasn't exactly playing it safe going for a vulture drop from a proxy starport.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3433 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-18 11:18:42
October 18 2020 11:17 GMT
#210
On October 18 2020 20:14 goody153 wrote:
"What if his Random is more dominant than his terran and wins without losing. Like what does that even mean" - Artosis

LMAO

Show nested quote +
On October 18 2020 20:11 True_Spike wrote:
So far it seems like people playing Flash kill themselves with the way they open the games.

I am really happy with the result though, BW hasn't been as exciting as this for quite a while for me.

Some of his opponents got lucky like Snow with game 2 opening Nexus first against him then he killed him still.

This tournament is as exciting to me as the island map ASL (sparkle i think was the map name) maaaaaaaaan that tournament was sooooooooo fun


I don't think that was lucky at all, FE builds are fairly easy to crush in PvP (Flash didn't react properly and Snow still handed him the game later with his goon move-out and mismicro here and there). If anything, Flash got lucky that game.

ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
October 18 2020 11:18 GMT
#211
I think the biggest problem is the ambiguity, you have to scout early, and until then play safe.
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
October 18 2020 11:19 GMT
#212
On October 18 2020 20:15 Garrl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2020 20:13 RKC wrote:
Yeah, seems like players are mind-gaming themselves too much against Flash's random.

Just play safe and solid. Even if you're at disadvantage early game, just gradually chip your way for the win against Flash's P/Z (Flash Terran is just an auto-loss, too bad).


The game on Eclipse showed that's not enough, even when you get a 14cc vs 12 nex game.


Rush blew his advantage by risking with the vulture drop. He could've just soft-contained Flash, and macro up.

Maybe Rush would still lose in late-game anyway. But the point is that Rush contributed to his own quick downfall by making risky moves.
gg no re thx
ideahitme
Profile Joined October 2020
1 Post
October 18 2020 11:19 GMT
#213
honestly all of the games were a huge let-down. Flash starsense is OP too much. Hopefully someone will manage to get to long macro game vs Flash's P or Z.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
October 18 2020 11:19 GMT
#214
On October 18 2020 20:17 True_Spike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2020 20:15 Garrl wrote:
On October 18 2020 20:13 RKC wrote:
Yeah, seems like players are mind-gaming themselves too much against Flash's random.

Just play safe and solid. Even if you're at disadvantage early game, just gradually chip your way for the win against Flash's P/Z (Flash Terran is just an auto-loss, too bad).


The game on Eclipse showed that's not enough, even when you get a 14cc vs 12 nex game.


He wasn't exactly playing it safe going for a vulture drop from a proxy starport.

Rush probably wins if Flash didn't also kill waaay more workers with reavers than Rush vult drop
this is a quote
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
October 18 2020 11:19 GMT
#215
Zerg has the best chance vs Flash since Flash wouldn't be as good in muta micro and Zerg has an advantage ZvP.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
October 18 2020 11:21 GMT
#216
Great series !

On October 18 2020 20:19 Dante08 wrote:
Zerg has the best chance vs Flash since Flash wouldn't be as good in muta micro and Zerg has an advantage ZvP.

Yeah. After that Snow series which makes his PvP really ambigious for the rest of the remaining toss he could face in the tournament.

No way flash is winning zvz against those who grind their lives with it

His vs T is obviously too good because his terran random is almost autowin
this is a quote
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1259 Posts
October 18 2020 11:21 GMT
#217
Flash won't win this ASl because of the Zergs. Soulkey won't fall for any of this shit.
allmylifethereyougo
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom24 Posts
October 18 2020 11:23 GMT
#218
On October 18 2020 20:21 oxKnu wrote:
Flash won't win this ASl because of the Zergs. Soulkey won't fall for any of this shit.



this is a good point. when he's in form, soulkey strikes me as being one of the most intelligent players currently in the business
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4321 Posts
October 18 2020 11:26 GMT
#219
On October 18 2020 20:21 oxKnu wrote:
Flash won't win this ASl because of the Zergs. Soulkey won't fall for any of this shit.


Soulkey will get eliminated this round tho.

But I think next round snow will overcome flash.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9047 Posts
October 18 2020 11:29 GMT
#220
I think the only way to beat Flash is going Random yourself.
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