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ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
October 18 2020 11:06 GMT
#181
what a god
the courage to be a lazy bum
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-18 11:06:48
October 18 2020 11:06 GMT
#182
Random OP seriously.

I'm beginning to wonder if the combo of Flash's game sense and algorithmic style of play is broken when combined with the scouting burden and suboptimal decision tree for the other player
Что?
allmylifethereyougo
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom24 Posts
October 18 2020 11:07 GMT
#183
On October 18 2020 20:04 Xiberia wrote:
Is it just me or was both game 1 and 3 very lucky for Flash? Obviously a fantastic player but i wasn't really impressed by those games.



game 1 was a complete tactical victory made from quick decisions under pressure
Xiberia
Profile Joined September 2007
Sweden634 Posts
October 18 2020 11:07 GMT
#184
On October 18 2020 20:04 sudete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2020 20:04 Xiberia wrote:
Is it just me or was both game 1 and 3 very lucky for Flash? Obviously a fantastic player but i wasn't really impressed by those games.


Game 3 I'll say it was fortunate but why do you think game 1 was lucky?

He picked the exact build to counter Rush's build without scouting anything and the bunker at the front finished the exact second the SCV died. If he had gone for anything but 2port he might've gotten flattened.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50466 Posts
October 18 2020 11:07 GMT
#185
On October 18 2020 20:06 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2020 20:04 Xiberia wrote:
Is it just me or was both game 1 and 3 very lucky for Flash? Obviously a fantastic player but i wasn't really impressed by those games.


Game 1 wasn't lucky. Flash did a lot of little things exactly right to make it look easy. Even not getting that Bunker up at the eggs might have been a difference maker.

Game 3 was lucky.


lucky? maybe, I mean he was looking for the rax and he found it.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
October 18 2020 11:07 GMT
#186
On October 18 2020 20:04 Xiberia wrote:
Is it just me or was both game 1 and 3 very lucky for Flash? Obviously a fantastic player but i wasn't really impressed by those games.

I'd say Flash's build in game 3 was pretty well calculated, considering the map and the fact that he's random.
WriterReV hwaiting!
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
October 18 2020 11:07 GMT
#187
On October 18 2020 20:04 RKC wrote:
WTF... I thought Flash would've fast expo-ed and died... Star sense too strong!

What was the thinking behind quick pool as random on that map?



It is auto win vs fast CC + good vs BBs.. so yeah Im not surprised he chose this

I actually thought he might even 4/5 pool
hatred outlives the hateful
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44202 Posts
October 18 2020 11:08 GMT
#188
On October 18 2020 20:07 Xiberia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2020 20:04 sudete wrote:
On October 18 2020 20:04 Xiberia wrote:
Is it just me or was both game 1 and 3 very lucky for Flash? Obviously a fantastic player but i wasn't really impressed by those games.


Game 3 I'll say it was fortunate but why do you think game 1 was lucky?

He picked the exact build to counter Rush's build without scouting anything and the bunker at the front finished the exact second the SCV died. If he had gone for anything but 2port he might've gotten flattened.

He did scout it. He saw the marine blocking the ramp on a random location and the lack of structures on the base. Then saw the tank and vultures breaking the eggs.

He even built two bunkers remember even before the push hit ?
this is a quote
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
October 18 2020 11:08 GMT
#189
Does it count as a Royal Road if you win your first tournament with a race?
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50466 Posts
October 18 2020 11:08 GMT
#190
no
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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TdX
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore290 Posts
October 18 2020 11:09 GMT
#191
On October 18 2020 20:04 RKC wrote:
WTF... I thought Flash would've fast expo-ed and died... Star sense too strong!

What was the thinking behind quick pool as random on that map?


If Flash rolls T or P, he won't scout immediately, so it is safer for opponents to go fast expand
So the idea is to rush opp down

Rush is thinking, if Flash is not scouting me early, I can rush him down
The thinking is reasonable but game theory wise is probably not the best decision, I think.

7-8 pool just beats proxy raxes.
GGGGGGGGGGG
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
October 18 2020 11:09 GMT
#192
Flash beat Rush with all three races so I don't know man...
Brood War loyalist
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
October 18 2020 11:09 GMT
#193
emulating Mini in PvT, now I see it
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44202 Posts
October 18 2020 11:09 GMT
#194
@Xiberia well flash himself said he was lucky on the 3rd game. So you are right on the 3rd game
this is a quote
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
October 18 2020 11:10 GMT
#195
On October 18 2020 20:06 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2020 20:05 Shady Sands wrote:
What... Game 3 is over already?????


7 pool vs bbs and it got scouted quick.


Jeezus. If you think about it that's a genius move

7pool kills bbs, 14cc, and puts heavy pressure on rax/gas... which, incidentally, are the 3 most logical builds for T vs random
Что?
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3426 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-18 11:11:41
October 18 2020 11:11 GMT
#196
So far it seems like people playing Flash kill themselves with the way they open the games.

I am really happy with the result though, BW hasn't been as exciting as this for quite a while for me.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44202 Posts
October 18 2020 11:11 GMT
#197
Rush lost to every race against Flash lmao
this is a quote
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
October 18 2020 11:12 GMT
#198
i am so amazed, hope he prepares well for semifinals.
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
October 18 2020 11:12 GMT
#199
continues his journey as undefeated as random. how unbelieve, only flash could do this
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
October 18 2020 11:13 GMT
#200
Yeah, seems like players are mind-gaming themselves too much against Flash's random.

Just play safe and solid. Even if you're at disadvantage early game, just gradually chip your way for the win against Flash's P/Z (Flash Terran is just an auto-loss, too bad).
gg no re thx
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