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On October 11 2020 23:25 RKC wrote:
Anyone got stats on the viewer count across streams?
Bit late, but I looked sometime during the games against Snow, and between Afreeca, Youtube, and Sea there were around 100,000 viewers (21K, 9K, 70K). I can't remember now if I actually looked at Bisu's stream to see if he had it on, but he had around another 16K at this time. There were also a smattering of other players on the sidebar with 1-3K viewers who may also have been streaming it. Anyway, at least 100K, maybe as high as 120-130K.
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I'm not through all the matches yet but I hate the random play already. I know a lot of people find it exciting, I don't. It just feels like every match is a cheese. Great.
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All my ESPORT dollars are going to free. What incredible heart he had playing the games today, he only lacked some solid decision making. If he would have made less Zelots that last game and balanced it out with more gas units he would have won. I’m crushed he didn’t get through but I would have been crushed if Snow was out too. Hope he keeps playing like that, he definitely deserves to go far with play like that.
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On October 12 2020 04:22 hiro protagonist wrote:
All my ESPORT dollars are going to free. What incredible heart he had playing the games today, he only lacked some solid decision making. If he would have made less Zelots that last game and balanced it out with more gas units he would have won. I’m crushed he didn’t get through but I would have been crushed if Snow was out too. Hope he keeps playing like that, he definitely deserves to go far with play like that.
Its too bad, Free is another player with serious health-issues (wrist fucked up for a long time)
His ups and downs are magnified because of this.
Flash turns starcraft into some sort of experiment. Just to think how great Protoss he would make with his godsenses.
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I don’t think flash as random is a weakness. If anything an advantage. If he gets Terran he wins. If he gets Z vs Protoss he will be at an advantage. Now we know his PvP is killer too. We will have to see other match ups, but I think he’s proven the random advantage with his skills is not a handicap
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On October 12 2020 06:15 reps)squishy wrote:
I don’t think flash as random is a weakness. If anything an advantage. If he gets Terran he wins. If he gets Z vs Protoss he will be at an advantage. Now we know his PvP is killer too. We will have to see other match ups, but I think he’s proven the random advantage with his skills is not a handicap
I disagree, I dont think he will be able to play any ZvX matchup well, I can't imagine his muta micro is up to par and that is a big part of any Z matchup. I do think he will be damn strong with any TvX or PvX matchup, but zerg is really something completely different. Aside from cheesing I don't see him winning any matches with zerg.
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I did not know the hidden expo into a natural expo PvP was a viable strategy
I actually can hardl believe that
WTF
great great games 2day
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On October 12 2020 06:27 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
I did not know the hidden expo into a natural expo PvP was a viable strategy
I actually can hardl believe that
WTF
great great games 2day
Well I mean you didn't even know Henry was just a mediocre player... I mean just mentioning 
Also: yea, it's not true, I know....
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On October 12 2020 06:23 Kaolla wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2020 06:15 reps)squishy wrote:
I don’t think flash as random is a weakness. If anything an advantage. If he gets Terran he wins. If he gets Z vs Protoss he will be at an advantage. Now we know his PvP is killer too. We will have to see other match ups, but I think he’s proven the random advantage with his skills is not a handicap I disagree, I dont think he will be able to play any ZvX matchup well, I can't imagine his muta micro is up to par and that is a big part of any Z matchup. I do think he will be damn strong with any TvX or PvX matchup, but zerg is really something completely different. Aside from cheesing I don't see him winning any matches with zerg.
If flash plays nothing but ZvP against pylon in main. He will have hundreds of games like that. While the Protoss is used to having their pylon in the natural
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I can't believe that Snow managed victory through sheer force of will like that. Glad he's in the Ro8.
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snow had absolutely no business winning that match, the fact that he did it proves that he's got that winner's mentality needed for top 3 finalists. Especially after that devastating loss to flash.
Not enough is said about that final blow too, although Free was behind at that point, the game could have went on.
When snow made it look like he committed to elevator his units to that semi-island, Free moved too much of his army down in there.
That's when Snow moved around to the nat and the time it took Free to get his own shit back there was too long.
Free knew he'd been duped too, that final look of defeat on his face wasn't purely because of a loss, but the way in which he lost it.
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Amazing from Snow. Thought he’d be gone after going down to Flash so badly.
Hero had a shocker today. Really shocked he went 1-3 in ZvP.
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my god that last game was INSANE! it was so damn close, and free was showing good targeting in the last game to hold off 3gate. must have been devastating to lose, so unfortunate he never took the 2nd main gas, a lot of those zealots could have been archons.
the zealot drop on snows 4th was so smart, excited to see free as a real contender in the next seasons!
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Flash 2-0 Snow was just crazy. I thought Snow had game 2 until his Goons got caught out of position. What a crazy night of ASL.
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I was so angry that Snow was out for a hot minute. Wow. Ro16 delivering.
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I actually felt gutted for Free when he lost that last game to Snow. What an absolute epic game and series. We also can't forget that Free took down Hero who seems to still be a macro God but might have been slightly out of touch. Hero was sniping a ridiculous amount of high templar.
Free's old style of just constant early zealot pressure was so entertaining and seemed to unsettle his opponents. Almost felt like an old meta vs the new meta and the old meta definitely stood up. I realise gateway expands are by no means surprising but it's the veterans like Free and Bisu who seem to do it far more often and cut down on cannons.
I will definitely be a fan of Free moving forwards. Used to watch his games on streams but his games in ASL10 have made him even more like-able in my book.
I really don't know how he could have finished off Snow in that last game. Sure, his attacks maybe weren't optimal but how do you kill a guy who has the best reaver macro in the world. I guess he could have sat back and taken more bases but then he faces Snow with full supply. I think that map was also a bit unfair. With all those chokes in the middle, seems so hard to move across the map and push for the win.
He definitely shouldn't feel bad (although I am sure he does). He played two exhausting series. I think if he can work on his reaver micro a bit more and maybe fine tune his army movement in his engagements, he could make a RO8.
BTW, always been a Snow fan so it was kind of weird actually barracking for his opponent. I am usually barracking for Snow.
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On October 12 2020 06:15 reps)squishy wrote:
I don’t think flash as random is a weakness. If anything an advantage. If he gets Terran he wins. If he gets Z vs Protoss he will be at an advantage. Now we know his PvP is killer too. We will have to see other match ups, but I think he’s proven the random advantage with his skills is not a handicap
Tastosis mentioned that the issue will most likely be if Flash gets Protoss and faces a Zerg. That makes sense to me. Flash is scouting late which you really have to do as random. So things like 4 pool, 9 pool gas etc... he just won't know what's coming and it could be too late once the lings are in his base. Luckily for him, the remaining Zergs don't seem to use all-ins very much. Although we did see that 4 pool from Larva.
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The last game though. Imagine if it were rain instead of free. The game would finish 20 mins earlier
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