• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:04
CEST 21:04
KST 04:04
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play1Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8
Community News
[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)81ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo36Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) Old Replays From 1.4.6 Is the larve respawn broken? The future of the SC game model Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted
Tourneys
Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event INu's Battles#17 <BO.9> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Data needed Best thing happen to StarCraft since Remastered? BW General Discussion Fact based Zerg Upgrade Tier List
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9038 users

[ASL6] Grand Finals - Flash vs EffOrt - Page 45

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 43 44 45 46 47 52 Next
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 29 2018 00:43 GMT
#881
Lol this renegade medic scout is great! Terrans should do this more often midgame
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 29 2018 00:44 GMT
#882
Swarm frogleap is a thing of beauty!!! GG
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
TiQ.SinGi
Profile Joined December 2004
Norway386 Posts
October 29 2018 01:00 GMT
#883
Effoooooooooooooooort!! <3
Best ASL-finals so far (Though a small overdose of the 2010 OSL storyline, which was basically starting building hype from the moment effOrt won vs Last ) And althought Flash' road to the finals was a little on the downside spectatorwise,and JD getting eliminated again (T_T), this finals delivered, BIG TIME.

The player's interviews also great, with even Flash admitting he showed off a littlebit with the tank-mode push, which instantly brought me back to the infamous quote of "Boxer vs Theboy" incident^^ (Really liked how the writhers used this in the recap of ro4). And effOrt, saying he prepeared only for "3-0" and who does two base defiler when everyting is on the line being down 1-2..? as a Z player I loved it. And ACTUAL tears were shed, effOrt talking about his mom, amazing!

And props to noregret/Rapid. It's not easy to go out there and deliver in a grand final, but I think they pulled through. They are not worse then Tastless's ramblings so ppl should cut them some slack. They are not the first choice but when they come out they do ok. Agreed it is more commentating what they "see" and not so much on specific mindsets, possible openers and potential outcomes, the meta-game and so on, but they did allright and the games themselves were so fast and furious that there was not much time to "settle down" and think what to say imo.

GG's


“Approved attributes and their relation to face make every man his own jailer; this is a fundamental social constraint even though each man may like his cell.” -Goffman
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 29 2018 01:05 GMT
#884
12h VS 1-1-1 again. I think Effort has squashed this build already. I wonder what variation Flash does
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 29 2018 01:10 GMT
#885
Vultures are ridiculous units. 1 well microed vulture could erase 12 well microed lings. That speed timing was fortunate.
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 29 2018 01:10 GMT
#886
Mass hydra??? WOW
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 29 2018 01:11 GMT
#887
Why did Flash cancel his wall and not rebuild???!!!
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 29 2018 01:12 GMT
#888
This is gonna be the hill where the game is decided
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 29 2018 01:22 GMT
#889
Flash holds this. The tank vessel switch will be crucial. And Flash has always performed impeccably in life threatening situations. Flash got this unless Effort plays perfectly.
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
October 29 2018 01:25 GMT
#890
On October 29 2018 05:57 TonDan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 03:51 reincremate wrote:
This was easily the best ASL finals we've witnessed so far, by a long shot. Shine's bag of tricks couldn't withstand Flash, nor could Hero's straightforward, solid ZvT, but man did Effort deliver beyond expectations. I doubt many predicted this finals would be this good. It's also worth nothing that this is the first ASL finals that wasn't a 3-1 or 3-0.

Interesting how Flash went 6-0 in TvP and 3-4 in TvZ this ASL (not including wildcard matches), ez-mode rolling both Mini and Shuttle while looking vulnerable against Jaedong and Effort. Way too small of a sample size to jump to hasty conclusions (would be better to look at sponmatch stats), but it's nonetheless really cool to see that at least on the big stage, zergs were able to exploit Flash's early-mid game vulnerabilites in TvZ with smart, ballsy play, which I think silences the idea that Flash's TvZ is broken and unbeatable due to 1-1-1 or some other tesagi shenanigans (at least when it matters most: in the finals of the currently most prestigious BW tournament). We should be grateful to both Effort and Flash for such an awesome finals. Even gods bleed.


except for the last game, i thought it was quite bad. Last vs Effort was much more entertaining.

Even if that's the case, it was still better than previous ASL finals. A lot more back and forth, a lot more interesting tactics and strats.
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 29 2018 01:26 GMT
#891
This play by effort is so weird. Speedhydras in ZvT as an intended play and not a reaction. Ive seen this only in Hydra vs. Flash and Zero vs. maybe Flash also in the finals preSC2, but only as a reaction to wraith play scouted late. Effort seems to deliberately be leading this game to his advantage. W.O.W.!
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
October 29 2018 01:38 GMT
#892
Fantastic entertainment.
The heart's eternal vow
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 29 2018 02:19 GMT
#893
Cancel Science Fac for Ebay! Clutch read
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 29 2018 02:20 GMT
#894
That muta evasion split against cloaked wraiths was 1 minute too late. Effort should have done it after the scv attack disengage
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
October 29 2018 02:29 GMT
#895
On October 29 2018 11:19 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Cancel Science Fac for Ebay! Clutch read

He started making two Science Facilities by accident and then cancelled one. And why are you LRing games that happened yesterday?
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5600 Posts
October 29 2018 02:41 GMT
#896
I think Effort's play in this series is best executed and the most innovative I have ever seen. I started watching BW just after Bisu's "revolution", in late 2007. It feels like game 4 and 5 should go down as some of the most impressive games by a zerg player ever.

I'm so happy I got to see this. This was even greater than the clutch zerglings eight years ago.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-29 03:19:20
October 29 2018 03:08 GMT
#897
On October 29 2018 05:57 TonDan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 03:51 reincremate wrote:This was easily the best ASL finals we've witnessed so far, by a long shot. Shine's bag of tricks couldn't withstand Flash, nor could Hero's straightforward, solid ZvT, but man did Effort deliver beyond expectations. I doubt many predicted this finals would be this good. It's also worth nothing that this is the first ASL finals that wasn't a 3-1 or 3-0.Interesting how Flash went 6-0 in TvP and 3-4 in TvZ this ASL (not including wildcard matches), ez-mode rolling both Mini and Shuttle while looking vulnerable against Jaedong and Effort. Way too small of a sample size to jump to hasty conclusions (would be better to look at sponmatch stats), but it's nonetheless really cool to see that at least on the big stage, zergs were able to exploit Flash's early-mid game vulnerabilites in TvZ with smart, ballsy play, which I think silences the idea that Flash's TvZ is broken and unbeatable due to 1-1-1 or some other tesagi shenanigans (at least when it matters most: in the finals of the currently most prestigious BW tournament). We should be grateful to both Effort and Flash for such an awesome finals. Even gods bleed.
except for the last game, i thought it was quite bad. Last vs Effort was much more entertaining.


The only probable logical reasons for you to be saying that would be that you're either a disappointed Flash fan or you don't play the game.
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1602 Posts
October 29 2018 05:06 GMT
#898
If only Flash made mines faster that last game
X-Men-Pickle
Profile Joined May 2006
United States62 Posts
October 29 2018 05:21 GMT
#899
Do we know what the viewer count was? And how it compared to previous StarLeagues? Could be interesting...
aka Ireland
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
October 29 2018 05:22 GMT
#900
I'm a huge Flash fan, but this was a fantastic outcome.

This is probably better for literally everyone involved. Effort, other BW players, Afreeca, the BW scene, even Flash himself.


Prev 1 43 44 45 46 47 52 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Online Event
15:00
Yamato Cup #6
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
MaxPax 291
BRAT_OK 94
Railgan 91
trigger 60
StarCraft: Brood War
Dewaltoss 151
Hyun 39
Pusan 25
Counter-Strike
ScreaM1653
zeus380
shoxiejesuss99
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox540
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor287
Other Games
Grubby3889
FrodaN2465
Liquid`RaSZi1497
JuggernautJason1078
Beastyqt711
B2W.Neo579
KnowMe313
byalli221
ArmadaUGS119
UpATreeSC64
Mew2King47
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream10225
Other Games
EGCTV1928
gamesdonequick1648
StarCraft 2
TaKeTV 562
Other Games
BasetradeTV265
StarCraft 2
angryscii 32
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Freeedom8
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 18
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie861
• Shiphtur380
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
6h 56m
WardiTV Weekly
15h 56m
RSL Revival
1d 14h
RSL Revival
1d 21h
Bombastic Starleague
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
OSC
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Bombastic Starleague
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
4 days
HomeStory Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
HomeStory Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
HomeStory Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
Maestros of the Game 2
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
BCC 2026
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
Heroes Pulsing #3
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.