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FyRe_DragOn
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Motivate
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JD is going to tear Light a new one for sure PvP, meh | ||
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Harem
United States11390 Posts
On August 17 2018 15:22 FyRe_DragOn wrote: JD!!! Going to be pretty hard when Light's tvz record this month in spon matches is something absurd like 46-7. | ||
Motivate
2860 Posts
On August 17 2018 15:28 Harem wrote: Going to be pretty hard when Light's tvz record this month in spon matches is something absurd like 46-7. Hopefully Light tries some weird fast upgrade build like in his last game against SK. I would still give JD the edge though... better overall player | ||
KamMoye
United States721 Posts
Love PvP so pretty hyped. Let's go Best! | ||
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Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
On August 17 2018 15:34 KamMoye wrote: JD isn't the better player anymore. He takes huge gambles because his standard game doesn't scare anyone anymore. Love PvP so pretty hyped. Let's go Best! Agreed, but I'm cheering for Jaedong just so there is another zerg. | ||
LightArchon
United Kingdom18 Posts
Hoping for an epic cheese build from Stork to get into Best's head and win with mind games. | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2384 Posts
And let's see JD fail please. | ||
prosatan
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On August 17 2018 17:12 Turbovolver wrote: Come on Storky! And let's see JD fail please. what ?? why do you say that ![]() | ||
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Kaolla
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On August 17 2018 15:34 KamMoye wrote: JD isn't the better player anymore. He takes huge gambles because his standard game doesn't scare anyone anymore. Love PvP so pretty hyped. Let's go Best! I don't think he takes that huge gambles,I just think in the first series it was mostly his control that failed him. He lost so much shit to nothing because he 'wasnt paying attention' and didnt intercept the dropships fast enough either. Not sure why he was so 'slow' , but yea I think that's his biggest problem and might have something to do with his nerves, because I think even semi pros usually do better than what he showed those games when it comes to multitasking. | ||
Ej_
47656 Posts
On August 17 2018 17:47 Kaolla wrote: Show nested quote + On August 17 2018 15:34 KamMoye wrote: JD isn't the better player anymore. He takes huge gambles because his standard game doesn't scare anyone anymore. Love PvP so pretty hyped. Let's go Best! I don't think he takes that huge gambles,I just think in the first series it was mostly his control that failed him. He lost so much shit to nothing because he 'wasnt paying attention' and didnt intercept the dropships fast enough either. Not sure why he was so 'slow' , but yea I think that's his biggest problem and might have something to do with his nerves, because I think even semi pros usually do better than what he showed those games when it comes to multitasking. His eyes and fingers are fucked, that's probably why. Jaedong is one of the last players I'd suspect of being nervous. | ||
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Bakuryu
Germany1065 Posts
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radadaundandan
Bulgaria3148 Posts
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Kaolla
China2999 Posts
On August 17 2018 17:58 Ej_ wrote: Show nested quote + On August 17 2018 17:47 Kaolla wrote: On August 17 2018 15:34 KamMoye wrote: JD isn't the better player anymore. He takes huge gambles because his standard game doesn't scare anyone anymore. Love PvP so pretty hyped. Let's go Best! I don't think he takes that huge gambles,I just think in the first series it was mostly his control that failed him. He lost so much shit to nothing because he 'wasnt paying attention' and didnt intercept the dropships fast enough either. Not sure why he was so 'slow' , but yea I think that's his biggest problem and might have something to do with his nerves, because I think even semi pros usually do better than what he showed those games when it comes to multitasking. His eyes and fingers are fucked, that's probably why. Jaedong is one of the last players I'd suspect of being nervous. I would expect the same, but his control was really abysmal those games, if he would really be that bad there's no way he would win any games on bnet either... That combined with the fact that he's not gonna play in ASL 6 because of the 'pressure' makes me think it might be a mental thing. | ||
BulgarianToss
Bulgaria478 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24579 Posts
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razorsuKe
Canada1999 Posts
JAEDONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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Motivate
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game looks like my offrace tvz.. lols | ||
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Heartland
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On August 17 2018 19:20 prosatan wrote: damn cheese !!!!! Uh-huh.. | ||
Motivate
2860 Posts
light looking all smug with his blanket.. argh | ||
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Motivate
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though i feel that jaedong gg'd a bit early | ||
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ortseam
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De4ngus
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razorsuKe
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Ground force attack in 1 place, simultaneously sends Dropship(s) to a base. gg. | ||
razorsuKe
Canada1999 Posts
pretty sure gg soon. =( | ||
Ej_
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On August 17 2018 19:54 razorsuKe wrote: looks good for JD but I can already see how Light wins: Ground force attack in 1 place, simultaneously sends Dropship(s) to a base. gg. haha, the faith repeats itself on CB | ||
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Xxio
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razorsuKe
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On August 17 2018 19:59 Greg_J wrote: Oh god Jaedong doesn't look good against dropship play. no zerg is good against dropship lol | ||
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razorsuKe
Canada1999 Posts
On August 17 2018 20:01 NoS-Craig wrote: Loving this so far. Back and forth action on CB. what more could you want. A 5th game | ||
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Greg_J
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razorsuKe
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Light is playing on widescreen JD is playing on not-as-wide screen lol (wider than 4:3) | ||
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Greg_J
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On August 17 2018 20:04 razorsuKe wrote: btw, check out the minimap and the player's viewscreens. Light is playing on widescreen JD is playing on not-as-wide screen lol (wider than 4:3) Interesting. Light taking too mny bases. Not looking so good. | ||
Greg_J
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On August 17 2018 20:07 Xxio wrote: Irradiated ultra next to plagued marines ![]() Not a good time to iradiate. But the vessel was about to die to anyway. I don't know.. | ||
Ej_
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razorsuKe
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ie: use speed+range upgraded hydras with a defiler among them. Plague the group of m&m and finish them off with 1-shot hydras. | ||
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Greg_J
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edit: Probably to busy typing a pointless message here. | ||
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Terra1
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razorsuKe
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LIGHT GG'd??? WOW Let's go J, LET'S GO | ||
Greg_J
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Great job. | ||
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prosatan
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Motivate
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i get it that they take a lot of scourge to kill but they seem to deal damage fairly slowly and are obviously expensive... | ||
NoS-Craig
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prosatan
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On August 17 2018 20:11 Motivate wrote: whats with this battlecruiser harass lately i get it that they take a lot of scourge to kill but they seem to deal damage fairly slowly and are obviously expensive... Piano style ![]() | ||
De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On August 17 2018 20:11 Motivate wrote: whats with this battlecruiser harass lately i get it that they take a lot of scourge to kill but they seem to deal damage fairly slowly and are obviously expensive... good money sink in a high resource game | ||
chongu
Malaysia2584 Posts
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Motivate
2860 Posts
On August 17 2018 20:13 De4ngus wrote: Show nested quote + On August 17 2018 20:11 Motivate wrote: whats with this battlecruiser harass lately i get it that they take a lot of scourge to kill but they seem to deal damage fairly slowly and are obviously expensive... good money sink in a high resource game wouldnt building tanks or more vessels be more worthwhile? | ||
Incomplete..ReV
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prosatan
Romania7702 Posts
On August 17 2018 20:14 chongu wrote: NICEE~~~~ W L W L W gogo JD u mean W L L W W chongu ![]() | ||
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Motivate
2860 Posts
On August 17 2018 20:17 prosatan wrote: u mean W L L W W chongu ![]() bigfile msl | ||
Greg_J
China4409 Posts
On August 17 2018 20:11 Motivate wrote: whats with this battlecruiser harass lately i get it that they take a lot of scourge to kill but they seem to deal damage fairly slowly and are obviously expensive... This would be quite an interesting question to get a full answer about. It's probably not just about cost. Forcing the Zerg to build a lot of scouge at certain moments uses huge amounts of larva and gas and will effect their army compostion and what they can do. The best benefit I can think of is that it puts the Terran someone what in control of the play and also what the Zerg is building for a short time. Is there a better answer than mass scouge them? Plauge? | ||
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On August 17 2018 20:18 Motivate wrote: Show nested quote + On August 17 2018 20:17 prosatan wrote: On August 17 2018 20:14 chongu wrote: NICEE~~~~ W L W L W gogo JD u mean W L L W W chongu ![]() bigfile msl aaaaaaaaaa yeeesssss sir !!!! | ||
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Greg_J
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On August 17 2018 20:21 Waxangel wrote: That's a good point.I imagine BC's could be effective despite not being as purely cost effective as other units just because they require less attention? So much of BW is about being efficient with your clicks and forcing your opponent to be inefficient with theirs. | ||
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Ej_
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J A E DONG kills my liquibets | ||
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Cvitak46
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My heart almost exploded! | ||
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razorsuKe
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On August 17 2018 20:29 Greg_J wrote: No intention of holding his third! DUDE that 3rd was like BAIT, JD was all like, yeah move there so I can just WALK INTO YOUR MAIN!!! :D :D | ||
Arevall
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2. Notice Starcraft stream 3. Watch Jaedong 4. ??? 5. Change pants, clean desk | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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Poll: Recommend Light vs Jaedong Game 1? Yes (23) If you have time (2) No (1) 26 total votes Your vote: Recommend Light vs Jaedong Game 1? Poll: Recommend Light vs Jaedong Game 2? Yes (6) No (5) If you have time (3) 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend Light vs Jaedong Game 2? Poll: Recommend Light vs Jaedong Game 3? Yes (6) No (3) If you have time (3) 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend Light vs Jaedong Game 3? Poll: Recommend Light vs Jaedong Game 4? Yes (28) No (1) If you have time (0) 29 total votes Your vote: Recommend Light vs Jaedong Game 4? | ||
Greg_J
China4409 Posts
Sorry if that metaphor is a bit much. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On August 17 2018 20:33 BLinD-RawR wrote: Poll: Recommend Light vs Jaedong Game 1? Yes (23) If you have time (2) No (1) 26 total votes Your vote: Recommend Light vs Jaedong Game 1? Poll: Recommend Light vs Jaedong Game 2? Yes (6) No (5) If you have time (3) 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend Light vs Jaedong Game 2? Poll: Recommend Light vs Jaedong Game 3? Yes (6) No (3) If you have time (3) 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend Light vs Jaedong Game 3? Poll: Recommend Light vs Jaedong Game 4? Yes (28) No (1) If you have time (0) 29 total votes Your vote: Recommend Light vs Jaedong Game 4? Thread is moving fast enough to requote | ||
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Greg_J
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On August 17 2018 20:33 Waxangel wrote: LOL, even jaedong goes impromptu 9pool because he forgets OL Is that what he said? Keeps the opponent guessing. Good strat. You can't predict what someone who doesn't know what they are going to do is going to do. | ||
De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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TornadoSteve
982 Posts
Jaedong against Snow ? Sounds like a round of 4 for the dong :D | ||
prosatan
Romania7702 Posts
On August 17 2018 20:35 Greg_J wrote: Show nested quote + On August 17 2018 20:33 Waxangel wrote: LOL, even jaedong goes impromptu 9pool because he forgets OL Is that what he said? Keeps the opponent guessing. Good strat. You can't predict what someone who doesn't know what they are going to do is going to do. ahahahahahahaha great one !!!!!!!!!!! | ||
KaNaTTu
Finland20 Posts
He really went Tyrant on Light on game 5 ![]() Couldn't be happier! | ||
Greg_J
China4409 Posts
edit: Fucking hell I can't type. I had to edit that 2 sentence post 4 times. | ||
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Arevall
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On August 17 2018 20:37 KaNaTTu wrote: I JE DONG! He really went Tyrant on Light on game 5 ![]() Couldn't be happier! Anyone read Malazan Book of the Fallen by Steven Erikson? When he mentions Jaghut tyrants I always go "yup, must be Jaedong". | ||
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Harem
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razorsuKe
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it looks like it should be standard as that was so sick | ||
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Greg_J
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Edit: That's probably a thing. But I have never seen it before. | ||
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razorsuKe
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On August 17 2018 21:03 GTR wrote: pimpest play 2018 #1 Pimpest play 2012 - 2018 #1 lol But it's looking like one of boxer's pimpest plays - does some sick stuff, loses the game =( (lockdown carries, snipe obs, but can't win in the end) | ||
TornadoSteve
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NoS-Craig
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Of Course Stock had a ton of resources and just rolled him. Fun game either way. Loved how Tastosis went crazy over the Dark Archon. | ||
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Greg_J
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On August 17 2018 21:18 Kaolla wrote: Hard to know. He could see everything and I am sure he's been in that situation a million times before. I would trust his judgement. But who knows what would have happended. Well I just said Best knew. But you know what I mean.I wonder if not dropping those dts was worth it tho, he probably could've killed at least one of the cannons and then pretty much the whole base that wasn't covered by the other cannon... i mean the DA was great, but the dts could have done so much dmg without an observer there anytime soon... | ||
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Greg_J
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Best is definately winning now! | ||
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Greg_J
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On August 17 2018 21:27 NoS-Craig wrote: God dammit, cat spewed everywhere and I come back and the games over. Fuck fucks. At least two more games for your cat to try and ruin somehow. Maybe it will find a rat. Maybe it will shit in your bed. I can't wait to find out. | ||
NoS-Craig
Australia3090 Posts
On August 17 2018 21:29 Greg_J wrote: Show nested quote + On August 17 2018 21:27 NoS-Craig wrote: God dammit, cat spewed everywhere and I come back and the games over. Fuck fucks. At least two more games for your cat to try and ruin somehow. Maybe it will find a rat. Maybe it will shit in your bed. I can't wait to find out. Ever since me and my sister gave my cat a bath, it's always loved shitting and pissing in the bathroom. Fucking awful stuff. Hopefully, my cat is done though. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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dropping the shuttle with reavers | ||
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Harem
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On August 17 2018 21:52 Musicus wrote: Congrats JD, couldn't watch, but I am really happy for him. The pressure must have been real. He fistpumped pretty hard after winning. | ||
NoS-Craig
Australia3090 Posts
By the way, I got Rain winning this KSL. The guy is looking awesome right now. | ||
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repomaniak
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KSL cheer + art KSL Artosis will write book about starcraft KSL JD interview KSL Artosis incontroltv more like incontrolgg KSL Tastosis screaming YAAASSSS KSL Artosis greatest day new starcraft book KSL Artosis gamblegamble KSL tastosis KSL > ALL KSL cheer art KSL Best interview KSL tastosis here is my nerd card KSL new starcraft book | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
Now i just need flashes career to collapse so i can enjoy seeing him win again! | ||
Kaolla
China2999 Posts
On August 18 2018 02:56 Dazed. wrote: You know i always hated jaedong when he was the top dog, as i hate overly dominant players/ and the weird 'i want to fuck this guy' attitude straight starcraft players seem to enjoy, but now that jaedong is a man on the brink of ending his career, like really struggling, im super happy to see him succeed. I hope he wins the tournament. Now i just need flashes career to collapse so i can enjoy seeing him win again! I think we are very alike ![]() | ||
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Kaolla
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On August 18 2018 04:39 TonDan wrote: hey is there a saved video of today's matches anywhere? I can't seem to find it. twitch.tv/starcraft has all matches.. you gotta watch em separately though, it always takes a bit longer before the full video gets uploaded (or so it seems) | ||
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Levque
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Just a heads up on the VOD situation if you go to twitch.tv/starcraft and then videos there is a drop menu there where you can select "past broadcasts". This has the 3+ hour VOD you want. This lets you avoid the individual game clips they post which can spoil the winner. Also this is uploaded automatically by twitch instantly so you can watch a VOD of a broadcast even while its still live! | ||
zobz
Canada2175 Posts
On August 18 2018 03:08 Kaolla wrote: Show nested quote + On August 18 2018 02:56 Dazed. wrote: You know i always hated jaedong when he was the top dog, as i hate overly dominant players/ and the weird 'i want to fuck this guy' attitude straight starcraft players seem to enjoy, but now that jaedong is a man on the brink of ending his career, like really struggling, im super happy to see him succeed. I hope he wins the tournament. Now i just need flashes career to collapse so i can enjoy seeing him win again! I think we are very alike ![]() You're both sick individuals. How could you not be happy when someone is playing well?! What else is the point of e-sports?! | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2384 Posts
On August 17 2018 17:12 Turbovolver wrote: Come on Storky! And let's see JD fail please. Not even mad, that was so sick from Jaedong in game five. | ||
Kaolla
China2999 Posts
On August 18 2018 10:24 zobz wrote: Show nested quote + On August 18 2018 03:08 Kaolla wrote: On August 18 2018 02:56 Dazed. wrote: You know i always hated jaedong when he was the top dog, as i hate overly dominant players/ and the weird 'i want to fuck this guy' attitude straight starcraft players seem to enjoy, but now that jaedong is a man on the brink of ending his career, like really struggling, im super happy to see him succeed. I hope he wins the tournament. Now i just need flashes career to collapse so i can enjoy seeing him win again! I think we are very alike ![]() You're both sick individuals. How could you not be happy when someone is playing well?! What else is the point of e-sports?! I think it's very normal not to cheer for a dominant player and there are always lots of ppl hoping the underdog can deliver an upset. Of course I do also sometimes like dominant players, like when Savior was on top I was always rooting for him. Just didn't have that same feeling with Jaedong. I do root for him now though, just because he is in such bad shape. | ||
Dazed.
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On August 18 2018 20:58 Kaolla wrote: Yes! I also cheered for savior! Show nested quote + On August 18 2018 10:24 zobz wrote: On August 18 2018 03:08 Kaolla wrote: On August 18 2018 02:56 Dazed. wrote: You know i always hated jaedong when he was the top dog, as i hate overly dominant players/ and the weird 'i want to fuck this guy' attitude straight starcraft players seem to enjoy, but now that jaedong is a man on the brink of ending his career, like really struggling, im super happy to see him succeed. I hope he wins the tournament. Now i just need flashes career to collapse so i can enjoy seeing him win again! I think we are very alike ![]() You're both sick individuals. How could you not be happy when someone is playing well?! What else is the point of e-sports?! I think it's very normal not to cheer for a dominant player and there are always lots of ppl hoping the underdog can deliver an upset. Of course I do also sometimes like dominant players, like when Savior was on top I was always rooting for him. Just didn't have that same feeling with Jaedong. I do root for him now though, just because he is in such bad shape. ![]() | ||
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