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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
April 15 2018 12:25 GMT
#181
why didn't effort micro his drones at all? ;o
Skeny
Profile Joined March 2008
Australia121 Posts
April 15 2018 12:25 GMT
#182
Wow-ee. I have no idea how you zerg players survive that kind of ZvZ pressure!
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Stax736
Profile Joined February 2017
United States119 Posts
April 15 2018 12:26 GMT
#183
damn I was 0-0 today. Larva plays against Flash right?
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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
April 15 2018 12:26 GMT
#184
is there a zerg that can beat flash in a bo3 though, i would have thought jaedong and soulkey (maybe larva) would have the best chance but now theres only larva
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12033 Posts
April 15 2018 12:27 GMT
#185
Larva YEEEEAH! :D
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Profile Joined August 2017
Norway646 Posts
April 15 2018 12:29 GMT
#186
On April 15 2018 21:26 Shock710 wrote:
is there a zerg that can beat flash in a bo3 though, i would have thought jaedong and soulkey (maybe larva) would have the best chance but now theres only larva


There's herO too.
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Skeny
Profile Joined March 2008
Australia121 Posts
April 15 2018 12:33 GMT
#187
On April 15 2018 21:25 BlackJack wrote:
why didn't effort micro his drones at all? ;o


I think he was microing the lings in Lava's base
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arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
April 15 2018 12:48 GMT
#188
On April 15 2018 21:33 Skeny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2018 21:25 BlackJack wrote:
why didn't effort micro his drones at all? ;o


I think he was microing the lings in Lava's base


Yeah, I thinks that's what happened. Anyway, all the zvz's today except for effort vs jd have been decided by the build order advantage.
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SuperCyan
Profile Joined October 2017
Philippines67 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-15 13:28:22
April 15 2018 12:57 GMT
#189
JAEDONGGGGG :'(

honestly, this was the 2nd best (1st is the flash vs jaedong) ASL group/ match day I've watched in my entire life. all games were insanely GREAT.I mean it! Each game was like a game7. But because of him being eliminated I don't think I can watch a replay of this group
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
April 15 2018 13:12 GMT
#190
holy shit the games today. amazing games. nothing like bw. the skill of these players is insane. what shuttle did with his spell casters and sair/reaver/shuttle...I don't think most people realize how insanely difficult that is. probably the most difficult style to play.

but damn am I sad about JD's loss. i felt like something wasn't right, he kept losing lings due to mis-micro. and I felt like he could have gotten a lot more shots with the muta. but he kept losing lings. sigh. feel so bad for him. next season JD!!!!!!
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2007 Posts
April 15 2018 13:13 GMT
#191
On April 15 2018 21:29 Incomplete..ReV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2018 21:26 Shock710 wrote:
is there a zerg that can beat flash in a bo3 though, i would have thought jaedong and soulkey (maybe larva) would have the best chance but now theres only larva


There's herO too.


He had his chance last ASL in the finals though.
He couldn't do it then and it doesn't look like he can do it now =\

I mean I hope I'm wrong but unless he's got some sick plays on these new maps, I don't think it would go any different than it did 5 months ago (in the finals)
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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-15 13:20:50
April 15 2018 13:20 GMT
#192
hell yeah, 100% agree. just read the comments from the previous pages; there was definitely something incredible about tonight's first three games. I really hope this brings more interest to BW so we can get more tournaments! How can you not love this game? the shit we saw today, no other game can replicate that kind of skill.
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
April 15 2018 13:26 GMT
#193
Larva:
ZvP is the best, even he almost never trains ZvP on his livestream.
ZvT his skills is improving day by day and it's so fast.
ZvZ is the worst, he won 2 games today, unbelievable!

It's time Larva becomes a new champion the ASL season 5. Only person who is able to against him. It's exactly Flash but this season maps will support to Larva.
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razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2007 Posts
April 15 2018 13:26 GMT
#194
On April 15 2018 22:20 Golgotha wrote:
hell yeah, 100% agree. just read the comments from the previous pages; there was definitely something incredible about tonight's first three games. I really hope this brings more interest to BW so we can get more tournaments! How can you not love this game? the shit we saw today, no other game can replicate that kind of skill.



I think something that might be under-appreciated is effOrt's eye on his bases, he ran away from dts so many times when overlords were not even close by.

Think about that for a minute, there was LOTS of stuff going on at that moment, he had to position units, macro, build other stuff and at the same time he was checking his nat for the slightest of movements in the air to recognize that a dt was there.

Keep in mind he reacted before even a single drone was killed so other than waves in the air, there was nothing letting him know that his drones were in trouble.
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5469 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-15 13:32:28
April 15 2018 13:31 GMT
#195
I was actually quite disappointed with Shuttle's D-webs. Compared to how great his storms and micro was in general, I expected better D-webs.
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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
April 15 2018 13:37 GMT
#196
On April 15 2018 22:26 razorsuKe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2018 22:20 Golgotha wrote:
hell yeah, 100% agree. just read the comments from the previous pages; there was definitely something incredible about tonight's first three games. I really hope this brings more interest to BW so we can get more tournaments! How can you not love this game? the shit we saw today, no other game can replicate that kind of skill.



I think something that might be under-appreciated is effOrt's eye on his bases, he ran away from dts so many times when overlords were not even close by.

Think about that for a minute, there was LOTS of stuff going on at that moment, he had to position units, macro, build other stuff and at the same time he was checking his nat for the slightest of movements in the air to recognize that a dt was there.

Keep in mind he reacted before even a single drone was killed so other than waves in the air, there was nothing letting him know that his drones were in trouble.


lol yup, that part blew my mind. immediate reaction, as if the DTs weren't invisible. after I saw Effort do that twice (fucking twice), I was sure he was going to win. He was on fire. It was like he was maphacking based on how quickly he reacted. definitely underappreciated unless you play the game.
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-15 13:39:58
April 15 2018 13:39 GMT
#197
On April 15 2018 22:31 Peeano wrote:
I was actually quite disappointed with Shuttle's D-webs. Compared to how great his storms and micro was in general, I expected better D-webs.

Shuttle is person who used D-wes at most. He has ever won Flash by D-webs. In the history, Jangbi won Fantasy once at the final OSL by combo corsairs + carries, probably in 2011.
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Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-15 13:47:15
April 15 2018 13:44 GMT
#198
Did anyone else find the game conduct of Effort (vs Shuttle) very suspicious? Zero storm dodging (seems like he actually wanted to be stormed) zero tactical play, units wasting (what he did to take 3 o clock it's just "meh?!!?". 5000 minerals wasted to take down a mined Nexus ... not to talk about the sloppy drop or the mass suiciding lurkers...), general passive play ... lurker use unwatchable .... i am not gonna say anything, well, indeed i am, but there are bets on Afreeca Starleague up, since at least 10 days on various betting site ... i really wouldn't wonder if something come up on the fixing side ... this play on this map is really suspicious to me, beside, the game was really fun and entertaining to watch.

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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
April 15 2018 13:48 GMT
#199
On April 15 2018 22:44 Xeln4g4 wrote:
Did anyone else find the game conduct of Effort (vs Shuttle) very suspicious? Zero storm dodging (seems like he actually wanted to be stormed) zero tactical play, units wasting (what he did to take 3 o clock it's just "meh?!!?". 5000 minerals wasted to take down a mined Nexus ... not to talk about the sloppy drop or the mass suiciding lurkers...), general passive play ... lurker use unwatchable .... i am not gonna say anything, well, indeed i am, but there are bets on Afreeca Starleague up, since at least 10 days on various betting site ... i really wouldn't wonder if something come up on the fixing side ... this play on this map is really suspicious.


nah man. let's not go there. effort did his best and just made a mistake wasting units on the 3 o'clock. he was in such a dominant position and maxed, he felt like he could force the issue at any location. he was wrong.
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-15 13:55:09
April 15 2018 13:52 GMT
#200
On April 15 2018 22:48 Golgotha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2018 22:44 Xeln4g4 wrote:
Did anyone else find the game conduct of Effort (vs Shuttle) very suspicious? Zero storm dodging (seems like he actually wanted to be stormed) zero tactical play, units wasting (what he did to take 3 o clock it's just "meh?!!?". 5000 minerals wasted to take down a mined Nexus ... not to talk about the sloppy drop or the mass suiciding lurkers...), general passive play ... lurker use unwatchable .... i am not gonna say anything, well, indeed i am, but there are bets on Afreeca Starleague up, since at least 10 days on various betting site ... i really wouldn't wonder if something come up on the fixing side ... this play on this map is really suspicious.


nah man. let's not go there. effort did his best and just made a mistake wasting units on the 3 o'clock. he was in such a dominant position and maxed, he felt like he could force the issue at any location. he was wrong.


Didn't see this dominant position at all ... maybe he had some minor advantage when he set up an early 4th base, while P didn't have 3rd base yet. Beside this ... i am not sure we can say Z was ahead in any part of the match, and when and if he was, he just camp and give P time to catch up. I really don't know what to think ...


EDIT: I forgot to mention NO SCOURGE usage while P was dropping all around and sair where out of play
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