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BLinD-RawR
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BLinD-RawR
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Alejandrisha
United States6566 Posts
edit: asl y u so gud | ||
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r.Evo
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RowdierBob
Australia13475 Posts
Sharp > Action Mini > SK Mini > Sharp SK > Action SK > Sharp | ||
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PVJ
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JustPassingBy
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https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/6r3f4z/flash_and_jaedong_streaming_scr_on_afreeca_right/dl27jja/ edit: nvm, I'll just watch on youtube, thanks Evo! | ||
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r.Evo
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AncientSion
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BLinD-RawR
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On March 25 2018 18:57 AncientSion wrote: is there an alternative stream ? I dont want to watch to taste and the other guy. http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/afstar1 | ||
Ziggy
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rotta
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AncientSion
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Im thinking more english, but decent commentary stream. Like Flash and John did last season. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51289 Posts
On March 25 2018 19:05 AncientSion wrote: Im thinking more english, but decent commentary stream. Like Flash and John did last season. unfortunately no. | ||
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Ej_
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Zesagi?! | ||
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ne4aJIb
Russian Federation3209 Posts
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-NegativeZero-
United States2142 Posts
balanced map is balanced | ||
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Nesto
Switzerland1318 Posts
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LongShot27
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Race Bannon
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BLinD-RawR
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RowdierBob
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imBLIND
United States2626 Posts
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On March 25 2018 19:19 RowdierBob wrote: Scouting fail Scouting success, player fail | ||
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JustPassingBy
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On March 25 2018 19:19 imBLIND wrote: Okay seriously...what was the "invention" or dramatic change in Sparkle that made it Z>T? My eye is saying that Terrans are cutting corners by going 2Port wraiths -> 4port air straight away with no ground army, but it can't possibly be as simple as that can it? Nothing, Sharp literally saw the attack coming from half a map away and could have stopped it. People like memes, this was a player making a terrible play | ||
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Terrorbladder
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On March 25 2018 19:20 JustPassingBy wrote: >SeaMy hopes of seeing a Terran non-mirror win on Sparkle are getting lower and lower. Now it's down to Sea and Flash. it's just gonna be another 0-2, stop lying to yourself | ||
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Ej_
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r.Evo
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AncientSion
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Poor Z. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
Amazing how they chow everything zerg has so fast, it's like scourge doesn't even exist | ||
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
Edit: Lategame would be the same gameplan with devourer/queen/muta/scourge and eventually guardians. | ||
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polgas
Canada1789 Posts
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Race Bannon
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Edit: Nvm just blocking the hatch | ||
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spacewar
France14 Posts
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Heartland
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Ej_
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Vindicare605
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PVJ
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r.Evo
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prosatan
Romania9181 Posts
I went with Sharp and SK | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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tanngard
Norway1325 Posts
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
great play seriously | ||
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PVJ
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Terrorbladder
2750 Posts
MANY MUTALISKS | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
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Terrorbladder
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PVJ
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On March 25 2018 20:22 Terrorbladder wrote: When you make anti-Flash maps and it ends up in a tournament with Protoss and Zerg... Makes me appreciate the amazingness of flash even more tbh. | ||
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gngfn
United States1726 Posts
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leublix
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On March 25 2018 20:22 Terrorbladder wrote: When you make anti-Flash maps and it ends up in a tournament with Protoss and Zerg... What I came here to write. He will probably still win it unless he gets rekt in the group stage. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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jtan
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Ej_
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farewell | ||
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Terrorbladder
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RowdierBob
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ChaosSmurf
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RowdierBob
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Terrorbladder
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Terrorbladder
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On March 25 2018 20:34 RowdierBob wrote: wtf? it's 12 hatch on a 4player mapUgh can’t believe SK goes for such a risky build. Not looking good. | ||
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Terrorbladder
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xccam
Great Britain1152 Posts
On March 25 2018 20:39 Terrorbladder wrote: Is Action throwing? I thought so also, but no | ||
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Terrorbladder
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
Super well played by Action <3 | ||
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AncientSion
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Essbee
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Qikz
United Kingdom12052 Posts
It screwed my liquibet but that was awesome! | ||
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GTR
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PVJ
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BLinD-RawR
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Poll: Recommend Final Game? Yes (32) No (2) If you have time (2) 36 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Game? mixed reaction for me on this, one had really happy, other hand really upset | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13475 Posts
He needs to back himself as the better player and 9 pool. | ||
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Zealgoon
China188 Posts
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PVJ
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Wonk
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tanngard
Norway1325 Posts
On March 25 2018 20:51 Wonk wrote: Ugh. losing Soulkey to yet another ZvZ. All I wanted was a few solid ZvTs against Flash. At least we still have Larva and Effort. Other than that, good stuff. Second game was super fun. Dont forget about Hero. Flash said he respects him the most this coming season. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On March 25 2018 20:43 GTR wrote: ![[image loading]](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/306284178549243907/427411993557729280/action.png) Action was super saiyan god even before it was cool. | ||
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Terrorbladder
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On March 25 2018 20:42 Essbee wrote: So Transistor, Sparkle, Third World aren't enough?Another potential threat for flash going down... :/ | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On March 25 2018 21:14 Terrorbladder wrote: So Transistor, Sparkle, Third World aren't enough? Depends on the opponents. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
Sparkle and transistor is so hard for terran, and vs zerg is not even the biggest issue. I'm still not entirely sure what the win objective is for TvP on sparkle and there's no way to stop a 12 nex on transistor. Mind getting through due to a TvT and a TvZ with all in inactive Calm. Hopefully Sea can manage to get through given his group, but I wouldn't count on it. | ||
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oxKnu
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Idiotic build order when you know that you're far better just micro-ing your opponent out of the game in a boring, predictable ZvZ. If I didn't know better I would accuse SK of throwing the game. | ||
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soujiro_
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SuperCyan
Philippines67 Posts
I honestly believe he is one of those FEW people who can defeat Flash in the Finals. he lost in the wilcard qualifier, had a somehow hard time at the asl5 qualifier, and now he can’t advance to Ro. of 16. so awful it must have been for soulkey | ||
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polgas
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SuperCyan
Philippines67 Posts
On March 25 2018 19:19 imBLIND wrote: Okay seriously...what was the "invention" or dramatic change in Sparkle that made it Z>T? My eye is saying that Terrans are cutting corners by going 2Port wraiths -> 4port air straight away with no ground army, but it can't possibly be as simple as that can it? if ZvT on that map goes to late game, Zerg has so much advantage if he takes up alot of gas expansions. he can just sauron zerg the enemy’s air fleet with scourges,mutas, devourers. that’s what I’m seeing | ||
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SuperCyan
Philippines67 Posts
On March 25 2018 20:44 RowdierBob wrote: SK is way too in love with 12 hatch in ZvZ. He needs to back himself as the better player and 9 pool. yeah, but he got the advantage with the 2nd hatch, and he even killed Action’s 2nd hatch. so for me him doing 12 hatch to open the game didn’t made him lose. everyone watching can see the many advantages he had in the game. And there were times Soulkey’s lings infiltrated Action’s base. but I don’t know Soulkey still lost the game I really wanted him to fight Flash | ||
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neptunusfisk
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StylishVODs
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flyingrat
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On March 26 2018 01:44 polgas wrote: Big upsets from previous group and this group. I hope Jaedong is prepared. well if there's one thing JD doesn't lack, it's preparation. | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
Oh well. We still have Jaedong! | ||
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Xeln4g4
Italy1209 Posts
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flyingrat
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On March 26 2018 04:32 Xeln4g4 wrote: any news on the VOD ?!?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ-jXkozJp0 | ||
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Miragee
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Game 4 was pretty sick. Didn't think I would see another Jaedong-esque multi mutalisk-flok micro again. I'm impressed. And then he loses against Action in a ZvZ AGAIN. Fuck you Action. There go the chances of anybody beating Flash this season again. zzzzzzzzzzz | ||
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Miragee
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On March 26 2018 02:37 Kawal wrote: yeah, but he got the advantage with the 2nd hatch, and he even killed Action’s 2nd hatch. so for me him doing 12 hatch to open the game didn’t made him lose. everyone watching can see the many advantages he had in the game. And there were times Soulkey’s lings infiltrated Action’s base. but I don’t know Soulkey still lost the game I really wanted him to fight Flash He was never in the advantage at any point in the game. When he killed the Hatch he _almost_ managed to even out the match but Action had way more mutalisks at that point so SK couldn't do anything. But yeah, if he didn't do the stupid engagement in the end I feel like he could have edged out in an uphill battle. | ||
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Dazed.
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Ej_
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arbiter_md
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I feel like we will see interesting games from terrans in the Ro16. | ||
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ppp87
Laos254 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/GXpdo99.jpg) Action fighting ! | ||
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Miragee
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On March 26 2018 06:52 Dazed. wrote: Hes consistently worshipped as the best zerg in the world, or competing for the second spot; he will never prove it. Hes not a tournament player. He always underperforms. I agree with you on the 12 hatch. He should have gone 12 pool instead. However, ZvZ is always a coinflip (unless you are Jaedong and it's 2009). There is no "safe" opening for the better player. Soulkey's muta vs muta micro is also quite mediocre which is baffling because his muta micro in general is quite stellar. Soulkey is one of the players who would benefit from having a coach btw. Always underperforming is a huge exaggeration btw. He got to the Ro4 in ASL3 and got knocked out 2-3 by Flash. He got to the Ro8 last ASL and got knocked out in a ZvZ. Again 2-3. He won the WEGL, beating Last, Flash and Larva without dropping a single game. Yeah, he is underperforming for sure... | ||
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winson
China139 Posts
On March 26 2018 02:37 Kawal wrote: yeah, but he got the advantage with the 2nd hatch, and he even killed Action’s 2nd hatch. so for me him doing 12 hatch to open the game didn’t made him lose. everyone watching can see the many advantages he had in the game. And there were times Soulkey’s lings infiltrated Action’s base. but I don’t know Soulkey still lost the game I really wanted him to fight Flash Even he has one more hatch, his gas is still way behind, Action even didn't need get ling speed that means another 100 gas. Gas count is the major factor once Muta is out, more mineral and lings are minor. | ||
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Motivate
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GTR
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On March 26 2018 07:31 ppp87 wrote: Action fighting ! .... thats chojja. | ||
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Miragee
8700 Posts
On March 26 2018 08:40 Motivate wrote: did they even play test sparkle before they added it to the map pool? the games on this map are super lame. even in my zerg eyes i can't see how terran can win this map. Well, there was a short period before the ASL started. Zerg was getting dominated by both terran and protoss. They made some quick, consecutive changes to help zerg. Now terran seems fucked and protoss still dominates. The games on Sparkle are a hell of a lot better than on Transistor though. And Third World looks pretty bad for protoss. I like new maps but they overdid it here. The test-phase was not long enough and they just throw in more. Makes for a lot of upsets (not really because by now we know the imbalances). | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
On March 26 2018 08:22 Miragee wrote: Definitely could use a coach. Your right it is an exaggeration, though Last chokes constantly, if you really want to talk about a quintessential under performer...flash was the only time soulkey actually met his own potential, but losing 2-3 against hero in a zvz? Thats not soulkeys potential. This sure as shit wasnt. 12p against 12h is totally winnable, especially if your the better player. Coin flip is not a fair way to desc. zvz especially at higher levels. I agree with you on the 12 hatch. He should have gone 12 pool instead. However, ZvZ is always a coinflip (unless you are Jaedong and it's 2009). There is no "safe" opening for the better player. Soulkey's muta vs muta micro is also quite mediocre which is baffling because his muta micro in general is quite stellar. Soulkey is one of the players who would benefit from having a coach btw. Always underperforming is a huge exaggeration btw. He got to the Ro4 in ASL3 and got knocked out 2-3 by Flash. He got to the Ro8 last ASL and got knocked out in a ZvZ. Again 2-3. He won the WEGL, beating Last, Flash and Larva without dropping a single game. Yeah, he is underperforming for sure... Soulkey could/should be 'the' guy. Flash/Soulkey/?? Protoss unknown. He is underperforming from that standpoint, maybe its nerves, maybe he just has bad prep and needs a coach. | ||
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orvinreyes
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sM.Zik
Canada2553 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On March 26 2018 07:13 arbiter_md wrote: So, Flash has a huge advantage of seeing what strategies don't work for terran now and eliminate them from his plans, or find the ways to improve them. I feel like we will see interesting games from terrans in the Ro16. First off, "terrans" will probably only be Mind and Flash. Secondly, it's a stretch to call map imbalance against terran an advantage for Flash lol=) Watched his stream the other day and he definitely has problems with the maps. Saw him lose like 0-8 to stork on third world and transistor. He still has time to prepare though but it's looking grim. If anyone can do it, it's Flash though. Also I think people exaggerate when they claim SoulKey is the only one who can beat Flash. Lately, Hero has been doing a lot better against Flash than Soulkey and to be honest I think that it's going to be a protoss that knocks Flash out this time. Beating any of Rain, Stork, Snow, Best or Mini in a TvP on these maps is a feat of it's own. | ||
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
Also, go Action!!! | ||
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