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flex_money
Profile Joined November 2017
United States1 Post
November 28 2017 23:46 GMT
#21
hi, i'd like to enter the 1v1 bracket. my race is Zerg, here is my starlog profile https://starlog.gg/en/profile/us-west/lurks
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
November 29 2017 00:08 GMT
#22
On November 29 2017 08:31 MarcoJ wrote:
btw it would be kinda neat if all participants try to spread the self equally based on MMR/Skill. Sure some people want to play together, but if one team consists just of players hitting the MMR limit it might get quite boring eventually.

P.S: I assume the 24th will be no games?

On November 29 2017 06:46 unoriginal_usernam3 wrote:
Super cool of you Faust for hosting again!

Suggestion: Some sort of draft or way to even the teams up. For example I'm like 1500 mmr and would love to anchor one of the better players/team down to the "rookie" level


Good suggestions. This is something I considered even in the first league, and although it would be more fair to spread all players out by MMR, it would be too hard of a task. Also it is really important in my opinion that people can play with their friends if they wish to form their own team. However, I will try my best to put the remaining players who do not have a team in groups with as equal MMR as I can. This is also another reason why I would like people to supply me with their starlog.gg profiles.

On November 29 2017 06:27 HaN- wrote:
Fuck my MMR is too high for this T_T

On November 29 2017 08:39 FlaShFTW wrote:
wait cap at 1800 mmr? I definitely feel like I'm a mid-skilled player but peaked at 2k mmr a few months ago when i actually played.


This is really a delicate predicament for me. Before making this thread, I was brainstorming what went wrong and what went right with my last league and for sure the most disliked parts of RTL1 was allowing stronger players into the league and also allowing B and above players enter with an offrace, so I wanted to be super careful to not reintroduce that experience for this league. I asked a few people on discord and on my battle.net friends list whom I regarded as decently strong players who could compete with me about their peak MMR and some of them floated around 2k. I was previously B rank on ICCup, and I do not want to have B ranked players in this league. Subsequently I had a conversation with people on discord moments ago that it is really hard to use MMR as a metric for skill as it is just wildly inaccurate in its current form. After talking to several people, I am moving it to a soft cap of 2k - but I will still require starlog.gg profiles.

Basically, I am aiming for an ICCup "C" or below teamleague. If you're a previous B ranked ICCup user, if you can take games off the stronger foreigners (ie. Dandy, Dewalt, Bonyth, Eon, Trutacz, Ty2), and if you able to compete and put up a good record in other leagues with strong players like PATL, SKTL, or BWCL, this league isn't for you. That is basically what I'm trying to avoid in this league. This Sunday, I'm finalizing the poll choices and I'm setting everything in stone.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-29 00:12:10
November 29 2017 00:10 GMT
#23
On November 29 2017 08:46 flex_money wrote:
hi, i'd like to enter the 1v1 bracket. my race is Zerg, here is my starlog profile https://starlog.gg/en/profile/us-west/lurks


Added you.

On November 29 2017 06:15 Eywa- wrote:
Hmm.. Cool event... Faust, do I qualify despite my peak being higher than the cutoff?

https://starlog.gg/en/profile/us-east/StarV?v=ladder_stats


You qualify. Are you going to join with a team or do you want me to put you in the open players?
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10162 Posts
November 29 2017 00:38 GMT
#24
I understand. I was never B, hell even C rank on iccup (the latter mostly due to lack of ladder games, the former mostly because I wasn't good enough). So I got to 2k and people were saying it was around B rank which was why I was surprised.
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-29 01:48:47
November 29 2017 01:48 GMT
#25
Starts over break? I'm in.

Account 1
Account 2
Account 3

Will also cast!
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
November 29 2017 02:16 GMT
#26
faust aren't you sub 2k like me b/c we played each other on ladder recently. why can't you play in this? xD
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1426 Posts
November 29 2017 03:06 GMT
#27
im shit so i might qualify
GGMrTea
Profile Joined August 2016
1 Post
November 29 2017 03:38 GMT
#28
how is 2k mmr "mid-skilled". It is literally the lowest league.
dM-White
Profile Joined February 2007
Chile340 Posts
November 29 2017 04:05 GMT
#29
looks so good, good luck with this league!! i would like to play but my highest is 2086 :/ (i got lucky), im now at 1970-1900 u.u
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
November 29 2017 04:16 GMT
#30
On November 29 2017 12:38 GGMrTea wrote:
how is 2k mmr "mid-skilled". It is literally the lowest league.


2k is in the top 3% of all players. That's pretty respectable, especially considering a sizeable portion of that comes from KR accounts. It's easily top 1% or better of all non KR players. On West that has you ranked almost in the top 500.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10154 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-29 05:35:52
November 29 2017 05:12 GMT
#31
Alright listen up scrubs, MMR is silly because who you play is wholly determined on location, ping, and hour of day. A person playing from Taiwan at 10 PM Korean time is going to have a shitty time trying to get 1800. As a frequent drunkard in NA on the East coast who played at 1 PM Korean time doing all-ins and dumb shit, I got to around 2000. Apparently some people are saying it was easier to move up in MMR over the summer than it is now, which sort of makes sense I guess. Let's not forget the whole double wins/double losses, disconnect not counting, and whatever other issues have been fucking with players since release.

TL;DR: MMR is a dumb metric and there doesn't really even exist a decent metric to scale people. Even H2H results are subjective af because Lumix is supposed to be garbage at any non-TvZ match-up, for example. Name value also don't mean shit as there are probably a hundred thousand unknown players out there who don't have TL accounts who could whoop my ass to Seoul and back and if ~C is the maximum rank for this league (based on another broken-ass metric) then I wouldn't be eligible even though last season I only managed to win a small handful of games and was probably below the mid-tier of skill.

Also, never forget:

[image loading]


EDIT: Oh okay I didn't see that you also said that MMR was a shitty rating scale @Faust. I also can't find the account I played with over the summer and subsequently deleted to make room for this one (tinyurl for clantag):

https://tinyurl.com/y7pwjfhk

I also have this one which I played random on:

https://starlog.gg/en/profile/us-east/]2eti]2ed?v=ladder_stats
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iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States924 Posts
November 29 2017 12:17 GMT
#32
My highest is 2169, but I frequently settle below 2000, can I join?
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
November 29 2017 12:22 GMT
#33
Think I can join Faust?
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SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
November 29 2017 16:20 GMT
#34
So far everyone who has posted can enter. I think not allowing stronger players into the league with offraces will be a huge improvement in itself. Everyone who posted so far would qualify, in my image, as a maximum mid skilled player. Rather than just ask, everyone who feels like they meet or are close to the criteria should enter without hesitation (although supplying your starlog.gg profile is still required) and if there is a problem I will bring it up to you.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
November 29 2017 17:21 GMT
#35
" What 3v3 map do you prefer? Other please specify in thread"
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HaFnium
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United Kingdom1074 Posts
November 29 2017 17:33 GMT
#36
As others have pointed out in the thread, the ICCUP ranks and MMR are not very good representation of skill levels. Another way is to look at recent skill capped leagues like the (D-rank leagues, CPL etc...)

I'd like to join if possible.
https://starlog.gg/en/profile/europe/latitude?v=ladder_stats

BW forever!
Demurity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States424 Posts
November 29 2017 18:21 GMT
#37
Wait wtf qikz faust and iopq can join? Can i join?
|Terran|
-Debaser-
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States329 Posts
November 29 2017 18:31 GMT
#38
starlog.gg
I'd like to join, my accs around 1850-1900
TL+ Member
HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1920 Posts
November 29 2017 18:48 GMT
#39
Can I enter?
https://starlog.gg/en/profile/europe/HaN?v=ladder_stats
Calendaraka Foxhan
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States924 Posts
November 29 2017 19:10 GMT
#40
https://starlog.gg/en/profile/us-west/iopg?v=ladder_stats
https://starlog.gg/en/profile/us-east/iopg?v=ladder_stats

I want to continue with team MOMO
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