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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6169 Posts
October 31 2017 11:52 GMT
#721
God damn, why did Bisu decide to expand when he lost all his goons and Flash unsieged to counter..
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
October 31 2017 11:53 GMT
#722
On October 31 2017 20:48 ThePhan2m wrote:
did bisu have 2 reavers in those shuttles? did one die when the shuttle destroyed during that drop?

I think it must have been at least 1 other reaver.
The heart's eternal vow
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2213 Posts
October 31 2017 11:53 GMT
#723
Flash dominated Bisu almost as hard as he dominated Mind. Truly the GOAT.
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
October 31 2017 11:53 GMT
#724
Hero will be so rekt! I hope Flash makes the finals fun, uses nuke a couple of times, battlecruisers.
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
October 31 2017 11:53 GMT
#725
Flash has been making everyone look bad
Hi.
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium3996 Posts
October 31 2017 11:53 GMT
#726
on a good note we get Bisu vs Larva in a 3rd place match, which is going to be fun.
Drone is a way of living
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 31 2017 11:54 GMT
#727
On October 31 2017 20:51 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I thought MnM was in response to 2 base carrier, which is actually an okay response

it was, people just like to say that Flash gifted Bisu the games for whatever reason.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
October 31 2017 11:54 GMT
#728
On October 31 2017 20:53 ne4aJIb wrote:
Hero will be so rekt! I hope Flash makes the finals fun, uses nuke a couple of times, battlecruisers.

hahaha

On October 31 2017 20:53 d(O.o)a wrote:
Flash has been making everyone look bad

true
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8477 Posts
October 31 2017 11:54 GMT
#729
On October 31 2017 20:52 niteReloaded wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2017 20:51 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
On October 31 2017 20:47 141 wrote:
what a joke this game is...lets turtle tanks and vulture and push. im done with this game!



what a joke?

bisu just made mistakes in every game he lost-- wasting 2 shots on buildings and then abandoning them and targeting units..

after doing little damage and losing important tools he still tried and all out attack..

bisu did a few critical mistakes.. a few is far too many in this beautiful game and especially vs a player of flashs caliber...


u are a joke 8(

The reaver shots were not a mistake. SCVs escaped and he had a chance to take down 2 armories+2 supplies with 5 reaver shots. If he took those down, the game may have turned out different.


The chances to hit moving scvs with a scarab that has to run through tight space and units coming from the other direction is incredibly minuscule.^^
RaNgeD
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States732 Posts
October 31 2017 11:54 GMT
#730
On October 31 2017 20:53 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
on a good note we get Bisu vs Larva in a 3rd place match, which is going to be fun.

oh good point. That'll be amazing
Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance. 1 Corinthians 13:7
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
October 31 2017 11:54 GMT
#731
On October 31 2017 20:51 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2017 20:47 141 wrote:
what a joke this game is...lets turtle tanks and vulture and push. im done with this game!



what a joke?

bisu just made mistakes in every game he lost-- wasting 2 shots on buildings and then abandoning them and targeting units..

true. Both in this thread and kinda in the studio audience there's a sense of disappointment and mainly with Flash, for whatever reason. Terran op, Flash op, blablabla Bisu just didn't play good enough really.
Michael Probu
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
October 31 2017 11:54 GMT
#732
On October 31 2017 20:52 niteReloaded wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2017 20:51 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
On October 31 2017 20:47 141 wrote:
what a joke this game is...lets turtle tanks and vulture and push. im done with this game!



what a joke?

bisu just made mistakes in every game he lost-- wasting 2 shots on buildings and then abandoning them and targeting units..

after doing little damage and losing important tools he still tried and all out attack..

bisu did a few critical mistakes.. a few is far too many in this beautiful game and especially vs a player of flashs caliber...


u are a joke 8(

The reaver shots were not a mistake. SCVs escaped and he had a chance to take down 2 armories+2 supplies with 5 reaver shots. If he took those down, the game may have turned out different.


I am saying he should have committed to a) shooting at the 2 armories + 2 supplies until the bitter end and kill the buildings or not try it in the first place

he shoot them twice and then stopped

that was a mistake
hatred outlives the hateful
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-31 11:56:19
October 31 2017 11:54 GMT
#733
What's up with the window mode anyway, hmm?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
October 31 2017 11:54 GMT
#734
On October 31 2017 20:52 niteReloaded wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2017 20:51 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
On October 31 2017 20:47 141 wrote:
what a joke this game is...lets turtle tanks and vulture and push. im done with this game!



what a joke?

bisu just made mistakes in every game he lost-- wasting 2 shots on buildings and then abandoning them and targeting units..

after doing little damage and losing important tools he still tried and all out attack..

bisu did a few critical mistakes.. a few is far too many in this beautiful game and especially vs a player of flashs caliber...


u are a joke 8(

The reaver shots were not a mistake. SCVs escaped and he had a chance to take down 2 armories+2 supplies with 5 reaver shots. If he took those down, the game may have turned out different.

The mistake was not targeting the academies but that then he switched to target tanks and 1 scv.
The heart's eternal vow
Soulforged
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Latvia917 Posts
October 31 2017 11:54 GMT
#735
On October 31 2017 20:48 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
bisu is one of the WORST Best pros out there..

i swear to god (Flash)... if bisu had besser decision making..

mechanics alone are not enough man

It is specially painful because Bisu's PvZ decisions are great - it certainly isn't just mechanics. After watching his stream and comparing it with other P's doing same builds, what wins Bisu games is precise decisions on where to pressure with what amount of units, etc - the entire 1gate FE opening is based off those decisions.

Him being unable to do it in PvT is very frustrating. Yeah, it is often not an option to pressure 'anywhere' until late game against a solid terran, but he doesn't do it lategame either. He just bashes his head against a wall, and when he doesn't have a big enough lead, he gets smashed.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6169 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-31 11:58:31
October 31 2017 11:55 GMT
#736
On October 31 2017 20:50 ne4aJIb wrote:
It would be 3-0 if Flash did not want to have fun with mm

except mnm is solid counter to carriers when there is no reaver or templar tech.
On October 31 2017 20:53 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
on a good note we get Bisu vs Larva in a 3rd place match, which is going to be fun.

Thank you for pointing this out, makes this loss easier for a Bisu fan
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
October 31 2017 11:55 GMT
#737
is there any other game that terran went marines on 3 base?
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8477 Posts
October 31 2017 11:55 GMT
#738
On October 31 2017 20:52 Piste wrote:
God damn, why did Bisu decide to expand when he lost all his goons and Flash unsieged to counter..


He had to? That expansion came way too late but better late than never...
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1652 Posts
October 31 2017 11:55 GMT
#739
The +2-1 timing is +2 defense or attack?
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
October 31 2017 11:55 GMT
#740
Bisu didn't bring his a-game today which was sad but it's also insane how consistent Flash is.. every time.
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