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BossPurple
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden65 Posts
October 11 2017 07:19 GMT
#381
Damn, was hoping we'd see Bisu and Flash on the opposite sides of the bracket.
traxamillion
Profile Joined August 2016
104 Posts
October 11 2017 07:42 GMT
#382
JD was close to breaking rain but once the 2nd round of cannons went up it was obviously over. Rains DT drop won him them game, when JD had to pull drones out of his main and deal with that it hurt his Hydra rally enough that he then couldn't kill the new cannons warping in. Very close.

JD actually has been playing a lot better lately. 3rd in ELO this month. He lost 2 very close games that could have gone either way unfortunately.

Agree her0 and mind should be swapped. Sucks SK has to play a ZVZ since his equity is higher in other matchups vs anyone but flash. Now to get to flash he probably has to get through hero and another zvz vs larva.
traxamillion
Profile Joined August 2016
104 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-11 07:48:14
October 11 2017 07:44 GMT
#383
Bisu might have a better chance getting to finals from the side he's in. All 3 of her0 larva and Soulkey give him a very hard time.

Killer dark horse anyone? How sick if he just beat bisu and flash to make finals lol.

Looks like making the brackets the ASL organizers want to avoid a ZVZ finals.

And does flash get the easiest road everytime? Easiest groups by far and plays one of if not the weakest ro8 player
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
October 11 2017 08:32 GMT
#384
I hope Rain beats Larva 3-2 in a masterpiece of Ro5 so that we get another great PvZ series between soulkey and rain.
The heart's eternal vow
Ubersturmfuhrer
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland206 Posts
October 11 2017 10:29 GMT
#385
The lack of ZvT and especially LvT (Larva vs Terran) in this tournament disturbs me a great deal.

If we have Larva vs Flash finals, all is forgiven.

Also
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JD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
October 11 2017 11:19 GMT
#386
Oh I remember Rain as MvP for SKT T1 in SC 2 . :-)

And there is 1 promo for proleague , it is Flash vs Rain advertisement hahaha.

I hope final is Rain vs Flash again . I love TvP
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
October 11 2017 11:27 GMT
#387
If Hero ends up eliminating Soulkey, I'm going to be mad.
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1713 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-11 12:06:00
October 11 2017 11:51 GMT
#388
On October 11 2017 16:13 splunge2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2017 12:34 Magic Powers wrote:
In almost every PvZ I hear Tastosis explain that one-hit-kills give off a ping warning on the minimap. They don't, there's no warning at all. Please stop spreading this myth Tastosis, it's driving me nuts :/


Arent they explicitly explaining that this is NOT the case? And that this is why dt in worker line in pvz is so much more dangerous than in pvt? Thats what i'm hearing every single game..

They're saying there is a minimap ping but no verbal warning.
On October 11 2017 16:44 traxamillion wrote:
Looks like making the brackets the ASL organizers want to avoid a ZVZ finals.

And does flash get the easiest road everytime? Easiest groups by far and plays one of if not the weakest ro8 player

Unless they rigged the live draw and the group selection, the organizers had no power over who plays who.
And Flash last season played Last and SK. Shine was meh but it wasn't Flash's fault Shine beat everyone else and got to the finals.
The season before that, he got lucky playing Guemchi in Ro8 but played JD in the semis. Finals were again meh, but blame Best for letting Sea beat him.
Also:
a.) Mind played great in the ro16
b.) The best 4 players in the ro16 managed to win their group, all of them will automatically go up against the weaker half
c.) Of the 4 2nd placers, only Rain is a bigger threat to Flash than Mind imo
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-11 12:52:57
October 11 2017 12:52 GMT
#389
On October 11 2017 20:51 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
Unless they rigged the live draw and the group selection, the organizers had no power over who plays who.

If it was rigged there would also be no way they wouldn't set up a possible Bisu vs Flash finals.
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
October 11 2017 15:51 GMT
#390
The round of 8 is gonna be great. Flash has some worthy opponents in Bisu Rain Mind and Soulkey. I get to root for the likeable Baxter and the good villain Larva.
RealityIsKing
Profile Joined August 2016
613 Posts
October 11 2017 16:16 GMT
#391
I personally want a Soulkey or Rain champion.
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2268 Posts
October 11 2017 16:51 GMT
#392
Stork as expected. But JD result is disapointing, to say the least...
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1704 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-12 06:02:32
October 12 2017 05:30 GMT
#393
•••Acer.MMA••• <> KT_Puzzle <> JinAir•GreenWings_CoCa <> CJ_herO <> Axiom CranK & Ryung <> IM_Seed <> IM_Squirtle <> le' ToD <> Innovation <> ROOT_CatZ <> inuh! <> Chobra <> SKT1_Fantasy
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1704 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-12 06:02:23
October 12 2017 05:38 GMT
#394
edit: sorry about the triple post, won't do it again
•••Acer.MMA••• <> KT_Puzzle <> JinAir•GreenWings_CoCa <> CJ_herO <> Axiom CranK & Ryung <> IM_Seed <> IM_Squirtle <> le' ToD <> Innovation <> ROOT_CatZ <> inuh! <> Chobra <> SKT1_Fantasy
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1704 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-12 06:03:23
October 12 2017 05:47 GMT
#395
On October 11 2017 16:44 traxamillion wrote:
Bisu might have a better chance getting to finals from the side he's in. All 3 of her0 larva and Soulkey give him a very hard time.

Killer dark horse anyone? How sick if he just beat bisu and flash to make finals lol.

Looks like making the brackets the ASL organizers want to avoid a ZVZ finals.

And does flash get the easiest road everytime? Easiest groups by far and plays one of if not the weakest ro8 player


Really happy for Rain. Did NOT believe he was going to get out.

#1) Flash gets the easiest road b/c he gets auto qualified into RO16 b/c hes the champion and gets to make an easy RO16 group with his swap thing he has during group selections b/c hes the fucking champion

#2 His RO8 is vs. a VERY good TvTer in Mind, and then he probably has BISU in RO4. How in the world does he have an easy route?

#3 Last ASL he had LAST, the best Terran in the world aside from Flash, then SOULKEY who should have won 3-2 vs. Flash if he hadn't had the godliest scan in the world to see the Guardians.

So tell me how Flash has had an easy path..?
•••Acer.MMA••• <> KT_Puzzle <> JinAir•GreenWings_CoCa <> CJ_herO <> Axiom CranK & Ryung <> IM_Seed <> IM_Squirtle <> le' ToD <> Innovation <> ROOT_CatZ <> inuh! <> Chobra <> SKT1_Fantasy
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 12 2017 05:52 GMT
#396
^ Please don't triple post, we warn for that stuff on here. Just use the edit button under your post ^^

Having said that, I agree with your last post. Flash did not have an easy road here or even in past ASLs. He created an easier Ro16 group for himself, it's part of being a champ but his Ro8+ groups were anything but easy.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
October 12 2017 19:44 GMT
#397
The ro8 has Larva against Rain. Does Larva actually have a chance? I like him in that he is the good villain. Only I don't wanna tune in if Rain is going to newb smack him in a blowout.
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1713 Posts
October 12 2017 20:09 GMT
#398
On October 13 2017 04:44 Alpha-NP- wrote:
The ro8 has Larva against Rain. Does Larva actually have a chance? I like him in that he is the good villain. Only I don't wanna tune in if Rain is going to newb smack him in a blowout.

I think he is favoured vs Rain actually, especially given his ro16 performance
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10012 Posts
October 12 2017 20:13 GMT
#399
rain's pvz is by far his weakest matchup, i'd say larva is the favorite as well
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usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
October 12 2017 21:13 GMT
#400
On October 13 2017 05:09 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2017 04:44 Alpha-NP- wrote:
The ro8 has Larva against Rain. Does Larva actually have a chance? I like him in that he is the good villain. Only I don't wanna tune in if Rain is going to newb smack him in a blowout.

I think he is favoured vs Rain actually, especially given his ro16 performance

Larva's coin-flipping zvz results in the RO16 makes him favorable against Rain? What the fuck are you talking about?

Larva isn't even that good.
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