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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
October 10 2017 14:20 GMT
#341
On October 10 2017 19:46 BigFan wrote:
Beautiful game overall!

Show nested quote +
On October 10 2017 19:43 PVJ wrote:
GG by Rain. Man, he felt like he's not warmed up all that much. SK on the other hand was on fire.

I dunno tbh. Rain looked like he was warmed up after the initial hydra attack. It's just that SK had a perfect defense overall. Can't beat that.

Looked like one of those games where you can't do anything right to me... lost a ton of HTs needlessly by walking them into stuff, kept giving up free archons everytime by needlessly moving back while it's morphing, only to then come back to try to save it (in vain).

And to cap it all off he got his reavers stuck in his main. Looked like one of those games where everything goes wrong. A little surprised recs are so high, even if SK played beautifully.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
October 10 2017 14:50 GMT
#342
Expected results.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4189 Posts
October 10 2017 15:36 GMT
#343
Jaedong.. he might have won if Rain hadn't dropped those DTs
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-10 15:45:26
October 10 2017 15:39 GMT
#344
Right, everyone is disappointed but no one didn't expect Rain to beat Jaedong. That sounds weird with double negatives but is some how more accurate than the alternative that everyone expected Rain to beat Jaedong.

I don't understand the comments about best of 1 series been bad. This is the way it's always been in Broodwar. OSL was round robins, MSL was this format; winners, losers, final.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 10 2017 15:56 GMT
#345
RIP Jaedong. When he lost that zvz vs soulkey I had a bad feeling he was going to get knocked out .
When I think of something else, something will go here
RealityIsKing
Profile Joined August 2016
613 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-10 16:27:05
October 10 2017 16:26 GMT
#346
Question:

Are the quarter-finals Bo5?
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
October 10 2017 16:55 GMT
#347
On October 11 2017 01:26 RealityIsKing wrote:
Question:

Are the quarter-finals Bo5?

Yup, Bo5 from now on.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
October 10 2017 17:05 GMT
#348
Great games, too bad about JD T_T
Excited for next round!
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Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
October 10 2017 17:16 GMT
#349
Those games were amazing. I thought Stork and Jaedong would advance. I admit I am biased because they used to be the old best players. But I didn't mind they both got eliminated because the games were so good.

Rain played amazing. I like how he left a control group of Zealots in his main in anticipation of a crackling drop. And that game with all the Dark Swarms ZvP was nailbiting.

I think Rain and Bisu might dethrone Flash.
YASHSHAKAR
Profile Joined April 2017
United States75 Posts
October 10 2017 17:31 GMT
#350
On October 10 2017 17:12 traxamillion wrote:
I'd bet heavily against stork making it through considering he's the worSt of the 4 and will have to most likely play at least 2 ZvPs. I'd also bet heavily on at least 1 z getting through since both of the first 2 games are ZvP.

Rly think JD has the best path he could possibly have here playing Stork first and then a 50/50 ZvZ vs soulkey.

I'm guessing SK and JD get through but if not one of them certainly rain. I hope JD Advances but head says Rain.

Also to an earlier poster. Stork has 0 Equity in a bo5 vs flash. Soulkey and Rain realistically have the best chances vs flash


Good call. They are young and hungry for a title.
My wallet for Aiur
RealityIsKing
Profile Joined August 2016
613 Posts
October 10 2017 17:39 GMT
#351
On October 11 2017 01:55 Valikyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2017 01:26 RealityIsKing wrote:
Question:

Are the quarter-finals Bo5?

Yup, Bo5 from now on.

Thank you!
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
October 10 2017 18:18 GMT
#352
damn JD wasn't looking that good in those last 2 games of his. soulkey showing some great games though he is a blast to watch.
savior did nothing wrong
Netto.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Poland523 Posts
October 10 2017 18:22 GMT
#353
Well... time for new generation I guess (if u can call soulkey and rain a new generation).
Be the change you want to see in the world.
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
October 10 2017 18:37 GMT
#354
RIP Jaedong. :'(
WP by Soulkey and Rain.
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
October 10 2017 18:41 GMT
#355
Never really was some massive JD fanboy in the past, but man, that loss hurts

Really hope it's not the end of his BW journey.
(>'.')>
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-10 20:41:41
October 10 2017 18:50 GMT
#356
watching rain vs soulkey vod and thinking about pvz.
If zerg goes to hydra bust, toss cannot defend with anything but static defence, which zerg can fake to put protoss behind, so as protoss if u see fast hydra u have to make those cannons which have no other use but use "just in case" so toss is behind.
If zerg does not go for fast mass hydra, protoss have to make starport + 5-6 corsairs which is suuper huge investment but if u not make it u just die as with the cannons, so u have do invest 700 minerals and 500-600 gas early game again "just in case" that puts protoss behind for a second time.You have the ability to kill few overlords if your corsairs dont die while you try to macro. If protoss for some reason lose corsairs zerg kills ur high templar with 6 muta and you are far behind if not dead.
So what about options of protoss and zerg ways of defence. Protoss sends first zealots, 3 zealots kills like 3-4 lings and die, zerg does not need to invest in anything but units that he utilize until the end of the game, that put protoss behind for a third time.
How a zerg defends vs +1 zealot push, with the simcity z needs 2-3 lurkers and 1-2 sunkens to push back 2k worth army of zealots. Protoss is behind for a fourth time. Doest the zerg needs to invest huge ammount of money in useless-semi useless units/buildings? NO. Can zerg play without air? Yes. Can toss play without air to air? NO
Late game. Assuming protoss manages to not die until late game. With lurkers, cracklings, hydra and swarm, protoss army become useless against zerg(without reavers) zerg turtle map and wait for protoss to commit to attack that he surely will lose because have no chance against burrowed lurker ling hydra with swarm. If he does not commit, zerg can plague protoss army bit by bit until weakens it enough to eat him easy. So how can protoss win? Protoss is made to lose in this matchup and protoss is for sure the weakest race at this moment. Arbiters are an option to overcome zerg turtle, but i dont see any usage by progamers, only if i remember correctly there was a win by dsaqwe against trutacz in TLS and it was very cool.

Luv ya BroodWar!
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10090 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-10 18:57:48
October 10 2017 18:55 GMT
#357
Dunno why JD went back into massing hydras after his fake hydra allin in the early game. He got good damage done, +1 was denied and he forced a good amount of cannons.. just go into a macro game from there.

SK vs Rain was a really nice game, SK played so well. Rain's reaver tech was insanely late tho, can't do much vs lurk swarm without at least 4 reavers.
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12058 Posts
October 10 2017 19:17 GMT
#358
Jaedong looked broken at the end there

Happy that Rain got through, but I had no idea it'd feel this bad.
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_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-10 20:37:14
October 10 2017 20:37 GMT
#359
delete
Luv ya BroodWar!
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
October 10 2017 20:40 GMT
#360
It was funny when the commentators were saying Soulkey was playing incredibly at the start when all he did up to that point was mass Hydras. PvZ is stupidly hard in the early game for toss.
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