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FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
October 26 2017 20:41 GMT
#81
lol first the pointless ban of racepicking, and now going back on the community decision. Why ask if you dont care

Here is NaS lineup:
DragOn[NaS]
SuGo[NaS]
Beast[NaS]
Moxie[NaS]
Zlifer[NaS]
Battousai[NaS]
EndingLife[NaS]
SeriOsity[NaS]
aka DragOn[NaS]
Bonyth
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland563 Posts
October 27 2017 00:26 GMT
#82
Hello

As European, I'm curious what is the minimum Turn Rate allowed for this league? I specifically ask this because it's an open league and the ping between Korea and Europe can be pretty brutal. How will you solve lag situations? Who is going to be disqualified?

In my personal opinion, allowing for anything below 10 Turn Rate is a backstab.
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
October 27 2017 08:55 GMT
#83
It's always bad to not listen to people in the community who voice concerns. I think you should find out what the players think about region locking and race-picking, and make a good decision based on the feedback you receive rather than just saying, "Nope, we're doing it this way." when the league hasn't even started yet. I can see the point of having the rules set in stone after the start of the league, but before the league even starts, I think there should be room for compromise so that the players can have the best possible experience.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
KenZy
Profile Joined February 2009
France92 Posts
October 27 2017 10:58 GMT
#84
Why did you ask the community if you don't listen to it ? You are clearly changing the rules to give advantage to your team, this is probably the worst move you could have done. Will you also change the rules during clan war to help your team win it ?

Nice idea to play in it Scan btw.

L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 27 2017 16:04 GMT
#85
On September 29 2017 21:52 619 wrote:
You guys have voted to NOT allow a team to field 1 kr player per week. I have removed the poll. Thanks for your participation.


On October 21 2017 00:07 ClanSK wrote:
No region lock.


Lol. Solid. This is most definitely not how you organize and run a decent tour.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
October 27 2017 18:40 GMT
#86
I think we should all hold our opinions until there is some announcement or rebuttal from 619 guys. I feel like this is truly unfair everyone is taking shots while there is probably a valid reasoning for all this.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Fujikura
Profile Joined April 2007
United States337 Posts
October 27 2017 18:58 GMT
#87
Well, a few things I noticed this is called the SK Team League that is hosted by SK. They came up with the rules and prize money. Teams have the option of participating or not...Scan is pretty powerful, but he's not invincible. If you don't like it host your own League with your own set of rules.
https://twitter.com/SouLFujikura
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
October 27 2017 19:28 GMT
#88
On October 28 2017 03:58 Fujikura wrote:
Well, a few things I noticed this is called the SK Team League that is hosted by SK. They came up with the rules and prize money. Teams have the option of participating or not...Scan is pretty powerful, but he's not invincible. If you don't like it host your own League with your own set of rules.

I do host my own clan league and my team doesn't play in it.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Bonyth
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland563 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-27 20:40:47
October 27 2017 19:28 GMT
#89
or nvm
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-27 19:40:06
October 27 2017 19:37 GMT
#90
On October 28 2017 03:58 Fujikura wrote:
Well, a few things I noticed this is called the SK Team League that is hosted by SK. They came up with the rules and prize money. Teams have the option of participating or not...Scan is pretty powerful, but he's not invincible. If you don't like it host your own League with your own set of rules.


Eh. It's one thing if you set your own rules from the start and say "take it or leave it". I would agree with you there.

What's being done here is outright poor organization. You don't make certain rules, then ask the community for some feedback, change the rules based on that feedback, and then change the rules again because you have a very good player joining your team. There is no universe in which that is running a quality show, and while players are still free to play or not play; the organizer should be called out for blatantly biased, shitty organization and jerking around potential players and viewers.

So yes, players can host their own leagues or choose not to play...but that doesn't mean a spade shouldn't be called a spade.

On October 28 2017 03:40 SCC-Faust wrote:
I think we should all hold our opinions until there is some announcement or rebuttal from 619 guys. I feel like this is truly unfair everyone is taking shots while there is probably a valid reasoning for all this.


I also understand the sentiment and there is reasonable probability you're right...but just suddenly editing these posts and adding players to the roster looks bad, and it's a mistake by the organizer to make those changes without an accompanying announcement.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
October 27 2017 20:10 GMT
#91
DRAIN THE SWAMP.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 27 2017 20:18 GMT
#92
On October 28 2017 05:10 SCC-Faust wrote:
DRAIN THE SWAMP.


I'll vote for you as pres.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
NbSky
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada1023 Posts
October 28 2017 01:30 GMT
#93
If any team needs a sub I'm more than happy to help out just shoot me a PM
Sandstorm@USEast | The Last Pride [EviL] GW2 | Nb.Sky
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-28 15:34:24
October 28 2017 15:20 GMT
#94
So, a little bird told me (you did) that you planned on banning Koreans, then you went on a vague tangent about how you don't care about Scan but you might leave it open participation, and then when I asked you straight up if my 3 Koreans are still allowed to play (solely to snipe you - I was straight up and honest about it), you did not respond.

How am I supposed to plan out my roster if I don't know the rules? Are the rules dependent on your final roster?

I guess there is Strength in Knowledge :kappa:

Please let me know because this is critical information that I very much need to know in order to determine what my roster priorities are (I won't give away the full situation here since i don't think it's proper to do so). I don't want to air out any dirty laundry, but if anyone wants a chat log, I'm happy to provide.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
80smullet
Profile Joined August 2017
Sweden35 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-25 10:27:04
October 28 2017 18:36 GMT
#95
twitch.tv/80smullet
Radivel-X17
Profile Joined January 2006
Canada144 Posts
October 28 2017 18:47 GMT
#96
There's a ton of quotes and situations in the last 4 months that show this 619 guy to be basically a skeevy pile of garbage. If the people here hope for him to act with any sort of integrity or fairness, then get ready for an entire league full of this same shit that you're dealing with right now.

For example, look at me - I'm in X17 (still exists btw lol) - Tasteless' favorite BM east clan full of bodybuilding BM hacking noobs, and this 619 guy is too sketchy and too much of a piece of shit to be allowed in X17 if he wanted to join. And he's the representative of the entire clan!
I used to run SC2GG, if you remember that. Come to NHFFA discord. It's where a bunch of old players who all suck at BW hang out, as well as people who like to play FFAs for some reason. https://discord.com/invite/kWNQvnd
[SK]sLiMpoweR
Profile Joined September 2017
11 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-28 19:04:13
October 28 2017 19:03 GMT
#97
If you don't like the rules then don't play. Sk decided what was best for the team, the community, and the league. If you don't like what was decided then remove your team.
Radivel-X17
Profile Joined January 2006
Canada144 Posts
October 28 2017 19:06 GMT
#98
If you don't like the rules then don't play. Sk decided what was best for the team, the community, and the league. If you don't like what was decided then remove your team.


Fixed.

I used to run SC2GG, if you remember that. Come to NHFFA discord. It's where a bunch of old players who all suck at BW hang out, as well as people who like to play FFAs for some reason. https://discord.com/invite/kWNQvnd
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
October 28 2017 19:07 GMT
#99
If you don't like the rules then don't play.


This is true.

Sk decided what was best for the team


This is also completely true.

the community, and the league


This, as well, is comple- WAIT A SECOND.
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I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
[SK]sLiMpoweR
Profile Joined September 2017
11 Posts
October 28 2017 19:08 GMT
#100
Plain old wrong. Also you don't have a team in this league since x17 went 1-6 in patl then disbanded due to infighting so buzz off =)
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