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EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
September 18 2017 19:43 GMT
#241
mong got a bit lucky in those games although his macro was on point. Dweb really was amazing to see, ballsy reaction to the ghosts. ASL is giving us a ton of great games.
savior did nothing wrong
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
September 18 2017 20:40 GMT
#242
It's cool these guys are still using these unorthodox strats even though money is on the line. Shows you it is worth it.
Excessive
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark151 Posts
September 18 2017 21:02 GMT
#243
On September 19 2017 04:16 DoctorHot wrote:
Does anyone know the name of the song when the games start, that starts with New World Symphony?


Beast In Black - Blind And Frozen
RoxieChan
Profile Joined July 2017
3 Posts
September 18 2017 21:16 GMT
#244
Why are these games still played in best of 1 format? can they not afford to broadcast best of 3? Best of 1 barely shows the player's talents. I hope changes are brought for the next season.
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
September 18 2017 21:18 GMT
#245
On September 19 2017 06:16 RoxieChan wrote:
Why are these games still played in best of 1 format? can they not afford to broadcast best of 3? Best of 1 barely shows the player's talents. I hope changes are brought for the next season.

For ASL 3, the matches were Bo5 after the group stages.
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RoxieChan
Profile Joined July 2017
3 Posts
September 18 2017 21:23 GMT
#246
On September 19 2017 06:18 deathgod6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2017 06:16 RoxieChan wrote:
Why are these games still played in best of 1 format? can they not afford to broadcast best of 3? Best of 1 barely shows the player's talents. I hope changes are brought for the next season.

For ASL 3, the matches were Bo5 after the group stages.


So only 8 players got to play an actual series? That seems like a pretty unfair and wonky system. This is a competition, to determine the best. Best of 1 is crushingly brutal. Were old Starleagues like this?
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany914 Posts
September 18 2017 21:28 GMT
#247
On September 19 2017 06:23 RoxieChan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2017 06:18 deathgod6 wrote:
On September 19 2017 06:16 RoxieChan wrote:
Why are these games still played in best of 1 format? can they not afford to broadcast best of 3? Best of 1 barely shows the player's talents. I hope changes are brought for the next season.

For ASL 3, the matches were Bo5 after the group stages.


So only 8 players got to play an actual series? That seems like a pretty unfair and wonky system. This is a competition, to determine the best. Best of 1 is crushingly brutal. Were old Starleagues like this?

It is almost exactly like the OSL format, the only change is that the Ro16 groups are also decided with the dual tournament format.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10550 Posts
September 18 2017 21:37 GMT
#248
Ffs stop complaining about bo1. It allows for build order preparations and upsets. Thats what makes groups so exciting.
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
September 18 2017 22:22 GMT
#249
THAT fucking game between Rain and Ample. Not best but weirdest game since KeSPA era?
sunbeams are never made like me...
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
September 18 2017 22:37 GMT
#250
How is the round of 16 brackets chosen? Is it based on groups A to F? Or they have a ceremony where they pull names out of a
Hat?
Mnijykmirl
Profile Joined February 2010
United States299 Posts
September 18 2017 23:13 GMT
#251
I'm suspicious. All ASL games have been too good this season. Much, much too entertaining. Hmm. Could it be staged? Is this the future of esports? It's all a show! Not real. Like WWE. This is why Tastosis brought it up in the beginning of the cast. They're trying to tell us.

lolol
Silentenigma
Profile Joined July 2009
Turkey2037 Posts
September 18 2017 23:22 GMT
#252
Wow that rain vs ample game was sick.I have never seen corsairs vs ghosts in BW before.
日本語が上手ですね
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 18 2017 23:26 GMT
#253
Really good games all around. Also, people need to stop underrating Mong. Sure, his game can be sloppy at times and maybe he hasn't been in form recently but this is still the same guy who took third place towards the end of the Sonic era and made the top 8 just last ASL. I think he is a Top 5 terran atm.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
941 Posts
September 19 2017 00:00 GMT
#254
What's up with the beeping thing during ads?
:3
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
September 19 2017 00:07 GMT
#255
I knew mong would get out of the group, hes perennially under valued. I thought he'd reach the semis at the start of the last ASL, before shine stomped on him. I still think he could make it deep, depending on how the brackets go.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
September 19 2017 00:40 GMT
#256
On September 19 2017 09:00 Starecat wrote:
What's up with the beeping thing during ads?


Are you talking about that one ad with flash and other streamers? They are just saying what haters are saying to them on stream in the chat, bad stuff.
THE Sliggy
Profile Blog Joined September 2017
Australia65 Posts
September 19 2017 01:54 GMT
#257
On September 19 2017 06:37 FlaShFTW wrote:
Ffs stop complaining about bo1. It allows for build order preparations and upsets. Thats what makes groups so exciting.


It's definitely great for us, the viewers. It adds a lot of drama.

But you have to feel for BeSt when he's eliminated by a lucky probe. There's money on the line here, not to mention the hours of training and sacrifice.
Sliggy: Remastered
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
September 19 2017 02:17 GMT
#258
On September 19 2017 08:26 BigFan wrote:
Really good games all around. Also, people need to stop underrating Mong. Sure, his game can be sloppy at times and maybe he hasn't been in form recently but this is still the same guy who took third place towards the end of the Sonic era and made the top 8 just last ASL. I think he is a Top 5 terran atm.

Not underrating Mong here, but his record on September has been abysmal while Best and Rain are both in top ten (ELO rating) He had no right to mess with me liquibet! T_T (also i would say Flash/Last/Ssuck/Light/Mind for top5, but that's just me)
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
September 19 2017 02:26 GMT
#259
On September 19 2017 10:54 THE Sliggy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2017 06:37 FlaShFTW wrote:
Ffs stop complaining about bo1. It allows for build order preparations and upsets. Thats what makes groups so exciting.


It's definitely great for us, the viewers. It adds a lot of drama.

But you have to feel for BeSt when he's eliminated by a lucky probe. There's money on the line here, not to mention the hours of training and sacrifice.


I don't think it's fair to think of the group stage as a Bo1, it's a Bo3 against different opponents. He didn't only lose because of a scouting thing (not to mention he got massively outmacroed that game, and could have most likely held), but he also lost to Mong.

The only time it's a little bit unfortunate is when in one group you have one amazing player, one bad player, and two medium players, and then it becomes sort of a Bo1 in the last game. For most part though, it's just a Bo3, and I think it's the best group format for BW.
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
September 19 2017 02:36 GMT
#260
The thing is bo3 format will go at least for 4-5 hours. I'm not even going to imagine if there are 3 or 4 terrans in same group and how long 3-4 TvT matchups gonna take. I'm not against it though, these guys are playing like 10 hours every day. But then you need to make bo7 semi's and finals which makes comebacks, reverse sweeps almost impossible.
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