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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On May 28 2017 20:05 d(O.o)a wrote:
I'm pretty sure that 2nd defiler mound was supposed to be a hydra den, vd instead of bd. pretty easy mistake to make, I've had it happen to me before, and they look basically the same while morphing.
After that he must've been very tilted, would've easily had lurkers in time for that if not for it.
Well, that explains all known facts.
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United States10550 Posts
On May 28 2017 20:05 d(O.o)a wrote:
I'm pretty sure that 2nd defiler mound was supposed to be a hydra den, vd instead of bd. pretty easy mistake to make, I've had it happen to me before, and they look basically the same while morphing.
After that he must've been very tilted, would've easily had lurkers in time for that if not for it.
its a specific style to get double defiler mound to resrarch both consume and plague at the same time. its standard when you have extra gas to speed up your timings.
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I think Flash is going to cheese this next game
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On May 28 2017 20:05 r33k wrote:
So many players play so sloppily against Flash, the games are just hard to watch.
Because Flash is so good at pressuring his opponent and forcing him to make errors as they try to respond to everything.
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On May 28 2017 20:05 sAw wrote:
It's almost as if Lurkers counter MnM.
Nah, it's way better to go for Lings and get killed by 4 firebats...
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On May 28 2017 20:04 Vuk_91 wrote:
Yeah, why go for Lurkers, it's not like they are good against MnM right?
Im not sure if he even had a hydra den, his tech tree skipped something major right there.
Someone correct me if im wrong.
Reguardless though. Flash is lookin TOUGH with bio right now.
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On May 28 2017 20:05 d(O.o)a wrote:
I'm pretty sure that 2nd defiler mound was supposed to be a hydra den, vd instead of bd. pretty easy mistake to make, I've had it happen to me before, and they look basically the same while morphing.
After that he must've been very tilted, would've easily had lurkers in time for that if not for it.
consume plague at the same time,double evolution for strong upgardes ling ultra defiler combo
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On May 28 2017 20:07 Vuk_91 wrote:Nah, it's way better to go for Lings and get killed by 4 firebats...
I'll just note that there's a good reason why lategame TvZ is almost always ling ultra defiler.
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On May 28 2017 20:07 Vuk_91 wrote:Nah, it's way better to go for Lings and get killed by 4 firebats...
Hey, scourge/sunken/defiler was an original army composition at least.
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United States10550 Posts
On May 28 2017 20:07 YASHSHAKAR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2017 20:04 Vuk_91 wrote:
Yeah, why go for Lurkers, it's not like they are good against MnM right? Im not sure if he even had a hydra den, his tech tree skipped something major right there. Someone correct me if im wrong. Reguardless though. Flash is lookin TOUGH with bio right now.
he did not have a hydra den. with that specific strategy you make a billion sunkens at the front while you stall for mass upgrades with ultralisks. you saw the cavern there but SK style smashes this build order sicne you're able to get out so many firebats and deal with swarm and lings so effectvily. really well done by flash, his bio control looks amazing as ever and i think we'll see more SK style from flash rather than always going for the mech switch.
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On May 28 2017 20:07 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2017 20:05 d(O.o)a wrote:
I'm pretty sure that 2nd defiler mound was supposed to be a hydra den, vd instead of bd. pretty easy mistake to make, I've had it happen to me before, and they look basically the same while morphing.
After that he must've been very tilted, would've easily had lurkers in time for that if not for it. consume plague at the same time,double evolution for strong upgardes ling ultra defiler combo Yeah, I don't think Soulkey made a mistake with his buildings either. There were quite a few times that I saw a zerg doing double mound in Kespa era to get quick Defiler upgrades. Lurkers are bad against SV getting pumped by 2 starports
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On May 28 2017 20:07 YASHSHAKAR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2017 20:04 Vuk_91 wrote:
Yeah, why go for Lurkers, it's not like they are good against MnM right? Im not sure if he even had a hydra den, his tech tree skipped something major right there. Someone correct me if im wrong. Reguardless though. Flash is lookin TOUGH with bio right now.
Hydra Den = 100/50. Instead of 2nd defiler mound + plague +ultra cavern, he could have had a hydra den, lurker upgrade and like 6 lurkers, with 4 bases and 4 gas. That's pretty much gg once he starts dropping.
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On May 28 2017 20:05 d(O.o)a wrote:
I'm pretty sure that 2nd defiler mound was supposed to be a hydra den, vd instead of bd. pretty easy mistake to make, I've had it happen to me before, and they look basically the same while morphing.
After that he must've been very tilted, would've easily had lurkers in time for that if not for it.
Nah his plan was to skip lurkers entirely and go straight to ultra + lings + defilers
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On May 28 2017 20:09 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2017 20:07 YASHSHAKAR wrote:On May 28 2017 20:04 Vuk_91 wrote:
Yeah, why go for Lurkers, it's not like they are good against MnM right? Im not sure if he even had a hydra den, his tech tree skipped something major right there. Someone correct me if im wrong. Reguardless though. Flash is lookin TOUGH with bio right now. he did not have a hydra den. with that specific strategy you make a billion sunkens at the front while you stall for mass upgrades with ultralisks. you saw the cavern there but SK style smashes this build order sicne you're able to get out so many firebats and deal with swarm and lings so effectvily. really well done by flash, his bio control looks amazing as ever and i think we'll see more SK style from flash rather than always going for the mech switch.
just outsider and Andromeda for bio.
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On May 28 2017 20:09 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2017 20:07 YASHSHAKAR wrote:On May 28 2017 20:04 Vuk_91 wrote:
Yeah, why go for Lurkers, it's not like they are good against MnM right? Im not sure if he even had a hydra den, his tech tree skipped something major right there. Someone correct me if im wrong. Reguardless though. Flash is lookin TOUGH with bio right now. he did not have a hydra den. with that specific strategy you make a billion sunkens at the front while you stall for mass upgrades with ultralisks. you saw the cavern there but SK style smashes this build order sicne you're able to get out so many firebats and deal with swarm and lings so effectvily. really well done by flash, his bio control looks amazing as ever and i think we'll see more SK style from flash rather than always going for the mech switch.
I have just realized the irony of flash beating SK with SK terran.
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If Flash is gonna be using SK Terran more I hope he busts out Battlecruisers as well. He was wrecking Zerg players left and right with them right after he came back to BW.
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Soulkey lost it against Flash's early marine pressure, he was really far behind after that. Just SC2 made me realize how much tension the lack of good ingame statistics creates in BW among viewers of mediocre skill level.
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On May 28 2017 20:08 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2017 20:07 Vuk_91 wrote:On May 28 2017 20:05 sAw wrote:
It's almost as if Lurkers counter MnM. Nah, it's way better to go for Lings and get killed by 4 firebats... I'll just note that there's a good reason why lategame TvZ is almost always ling ultra defiler.
Yeah, that's because you have ultras. Lings + Defilers alone don't do SHIT against terran, other than harassing bases.
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Soulkey is not good vs pressure builds, but if he get into the late game he is among the best. Flash knows this so he is playing aggressively.
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On May 28 2017 20:09 Vuk_91 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2017 20:07 YASHSHAKAR wrote:On May 28 2017 20:04 Vuk_91 wrote:
Yeah, why go for Lurkers, it's not like they are good against MnM right? Im not sure if he even had a hydra den, his tech tree skipped something major right there. Someone correct me if im wrong. Reguardless though. Flash is lookin TOUGH with bio right now. Hydra Den = 100/50. Instead of 2nd defiler mound + plague +ultra cavern, he could have had a hydra den, lurker upgrade and like 6 lurkers, with 4 bases and 4 gas. That's pretty much gg once he starts dropping.
6 lurkers against 6 science vessels. I guess i know who wins.
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