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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4159 Posts
May 28 2017 11:11 GMT
#221
why do you all talking about lurkers on that map? you can definitely skip them and go for expands ling ultras mass, the only thing zerg needs to do is to keep their muta count adequate to stop the dropships and there is nothing that terran can do. Sunken up the natural, intercept dropships, gg, Soulkey did only the 1st part
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reminisce12
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia318 Posts
May 28 2017 11:11 GMT
#222
Why zergs think they can skip lurkers in zvt is beyond me
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
May 28 2017 11:11 GMT
#223
On May 28 2017 20:11 marcesr wrote:
Soulkey lost it against Flash's early marine pressure, he was really far behind after that. Just SC2 made me realize how much tension the lack of good ingame statistics creates in BW among viewers of mediocre skill level.

You mean firebat pressure
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
May 28 2017 11:12 GMT
#224
On May 28 2017 20:11 marcesr wrote:
Soulkey lost it against Flash's early marine pressure, he was really far behind after that. Just SC2 made me realize how much tension the lack of good ingame statistics creates in BW among viewers of mediocre skill level.

Presence of ingame statistics makes it even more confusing because you will quickly find out that Zergs are often far behind on supply and it never reflects their in-game position.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Netto.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Poland523 Posts
May 28 2017 11:12 GMT
#225
On May 28 2017 20:09 Vuk_91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2017 20:07 YASHSHAKAR wrote:
On May 28 2017 20:04 Vuk_91 wrote:
Yeah, why go for Lurkers, it's not like they are good against MnM right?



Im not sure if he even had a hydra den, his tech tree skipped something major right there.

Someone correct me if im wrong.

Reguardless though. Flash is lookin TOUGH with bio right now.


Hydra Den = 100/50. Instead of 2nd defiler mound + plague +ultra cavern, he could have had a hydra den, lurker upgrade and like 6 lurkers, with 4 bases and 4 gas. That's pretty much gg once he starts dropping.


so you are saying that hydra den + lurker upgrade + 6 hydras + 6 lurkers cost the same as defiler mound+plague+ultra cavern? cool story bro. Plus shitload of science vessels which irradiate your lurkers to death.
Be the change you want to see in the world.
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2728 Posts
May 28 2017 11:12 GMT
#226
On May 28 2017 20:11 reminisce12 wrote:
Why zergs think they can skip lurkers in zvt is beyond me
think about this, SK took a calculated risk
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
May 28 2017 11:13 GMT
#227
On May 28 2017 20:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2017 20:09 Vuk_91 wrote:
On May 28 2017 20:07 YASHSHAKAR wrote:
On May 28 2017 20:04 Vuk_91 wrote:
Yeah, why go for Lurkers, it's not like they are good against MnM right?



Im not sure if he even had a hydra den, his tech tree skipped something major right there.

Someone correct me if im wrong.

Reguardless though. Flash is lookin TOUGH with bio right now.


Hydra Den = 100/50. Instead of 2nd defiler mound + plague +ultra cavern, he could have had a hydra den, lurker upgrade and like 6 lurkers, with 4 bases and 4 gas. That's pretty much gg once he starts dropping.

6 lurkers against 6 science vessels. I guess i know who wins.


It's not like ultras fair any better. Lurkers are zerg's midgame for exactly the reason we just saw. Ultras take too long. He had a nydus up at that double gas for ages and could've easily sent in lurkers to hold that. Not to mention flash only had 2 vessels.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
May 28 2017 11:13 GMT
#228
that game was a lot closer than it looked imo, soulkey just needed slightly more delay on the dropshpis with the scourge. he actually had the scourge in place for the first dropship play, but the problem is, dropships can be microed, but scourge are literally the dumbest units in the game so soulkey got rocked by soulkeys. he was like 30s - 1m from his first ultras coming out i think, if he succesfully delayed a single wave of dropships it woulve been a much closer game.

ultra defiler ling is fine.
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imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
May 28 2017 11:13 GMT
#229
I'm just wondering if SoulKey is going to be able to think on his feet....Flash is too good to take down with cookie-cutter zerg builds...
im deaf
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
May 28 2017 11:13 GMT
#230
Wonder what wizardry Shine can come up with
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Epithet
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States840 Posts
May 28 2017 11:14 GMT
#231
Today I learned it is SK terran (for the player soulkey) and not SKT terran for the team. Only took me like 8 years to learn this...
YellOw, Reach, & Nal_Ra Hwaiting!!
Vuk_91
Profile Joined September 2010
Serbia1690 Posts
May 28 2017 11:14 GMT
#232
On May 28 2017 20:11 M2 wrote:
why do you all talking about lurkers on that map? you can definitely skip them and go for expands ling ultras mass, the only thing zerg needs to do is to keep their muta count adequate to stop the dropships and there is nothing that terran can do. Sunken up the natural, intercept dropships, gg, Soulkey did only the 1st part


Sure, but if you want to skip lurkers than build 3 sunks at all expos, or did he seriously expected to catch every single dropship with scourge?
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2728 Posts
May 28 2017 11:14 GMT
#233
when you spend money building 10+ sunkens outside your natural so you don't die while teching to tier 3 units and TLers call you stupid for not buying lurkers
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
May 28 2017 11:14 GMT
#234
On May 28 2017 20:11 M2 wrote:
why do you all talking about lurkers on that map? you can definitely skip them and go for expands ling ultras mass, the only thing zerg needs to do is to keep their muta count adequate to stop the dropships and there is nothing that terran can do. Sunken up the natural, intercept dropships, gg, Soulkey did only the 1st part

He tried to intercept first bunch of dropships but got screwed by defensive matrix and bad position to engage dropships in.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
YASHSHAKAR
Profile Joined April 2017
United States75 Posts
May 28 2017 11:15 GMT
#235
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My wallet for Aiur
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
May 28 2017 11:15 GMT
#236
Ebay block, lol
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2728 Posts
May 28 2017 11:15 GMT
#237
Flash got the best possible spawn for wall
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6871 Posts
May 28 2017 11:15 GMT
#238
LOL FLASH
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
May 28 2017 11:17 GMT
#239
So, will SK get SK'd?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
May 28 2017 11:18 GMT
#240
On May 28 2017 20:14 Epithet wrote:
Today I learned it is SK terran (for the player soulkey) and not SKT terran for the team. Only took me like 8 years to learn this...

I feel bad for laughing a bit. Seul Ki Terran style; years before SK Telecom even entered SC esports.
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