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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
April 23 2017 11:58 GMT
#81
GuemChi slays Pusan and overcomes his love woes
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
April 23 2017 11:59 GMT
#82
pretty disappointing quality of games tonight imo, although can't complain with who went through from a personal standpoint
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Phyanketto
Profile Joined September 2011
United States601 Posts
April 23 2017 12:00 GMT
#83
On April 23 2017 20:48 K.H.J wrote:
[image loading]


It is Stork.

He just says 'Sorry for my fans'

It's okay, it's still always going to be TaekbangLeessang
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-23 12:04:53
April 23 2017 12:02 GMT
#84
On April 23 2017 21:00 Phyanketto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2017 20:48 K.H.J wrote:
[image loading]


It is Stork.

He just says 'Sorry for my fans'

It's okay, it's still always going to be TaekbangLeessang

Well, I don't want to live in the past and only finding grace and joy in remembering older times and whether I like it or not in the present it's more like TaekLeeSsang.
The heart's eternal vow
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
April 23 2017 12:03 GMT
#85
On April 23 2017 21:00 Phyanketto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2017 20:48 K.H.J wrote:
[image loading]


It is Stork.

He just says 'Sorry for my fans'

It's okay, it's still always going to be TaekbangLeessang

TaekMangLeessang
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
April 23 2017 12:05 GMT
#86
On April 23 2017 21:03 gngfn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2017 21:00 Phyanketto wrote:
On April 23 2017 20:48 K.H.J wrote:
[image loading]


It is Stork.

He just says 'Sorry for my fans'

It's okay, it's still always going to be TaekbangLeessang

TaekMangLeessang

Yes please
Phyanketto
Profile Joined September 2011
United States601 Posts
April 23 2017 12:06 GMT
#87
On April 23 2017 21:03 gngfn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2017 21:00 Phyanketto wrote:
On April 23 2017 20:48 K.H.J wrote:
[image loading]


It is Stork.

He just says 'Sorry for my fans'

It's okay, it's still always going to be TaekbangLeessang

TaekMangLeessang

When did Guemchi change his name? And what happened to regular Mong? Mong was pretty good a year or two ago.
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aedeph
Profile Joined May 2015
104 Posts
April 23 2017 12:08 GMT
#88
On April 23 2017 20:13 Miragee wrote:

Actually, protoss were doing quite well against zerg in the past few months, no? Anyways, glad to see ggaemo pulling through. It's obvious that he put a lot of work into this.


Especially they doing great in ASL3:

Shuttle Protoss 1 0 Zerg PURPOSE
Shuttle Protoss 0 1 Zerg Soulkey
EffOrt Zerg 1 0 Protoss Snow
Shine Zerg 1 0 Protoss free
Shine Zerg 1 0 Protoss Snow
hero Zerg 1 0 Protoss Lazy
hero Zerg 1 0 Protoss Rain
GuemChi Protoss 0 1 Zerg ggaemo
ggaemo Zerg 1 0 Protoss Pusan

So, it's basically 1-9, with single win of Shuttle versus some random lucky amateur.
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
April 23 2017 12:08 GMT
#89
On April 23 2017 21:06 Phyanketto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2017 21:03 gngfn wrote:
On April 23 2017 21:00 Phyanketto wrote:
On April 23 2017 20:48 K.H.J wrote:
[image loading]


It is Stork.

He just says 'Sorry for my fans'

It's okay, it's still always going to be TaekbangLeessang

TaekMangLeessang

When did Guemchi change his name? And what happened to regular Mong? Mong was pretty good a year or two ago.

Mong has qualified for ro16.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8671 Posts
April 23 2017 12:09 GMT
#90
On April 23 2017 21:06 Phyanketto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2017 21:03 gngfn wrote:
On April 23 2017 21:00 Phyanketto wrote:
On April 23 2017 20:48 K.H.J wrote:
[image loading]


It is Stork.

He just says 'Sorry for my fans'

It's okay, it's still always going to be TaekbangLeessang

TaekMangLeessang

When did Guemchi change his name? And what happened to regular Mong? Mong was pretty good a year or two ago.


Mong's always been the same. He is a very solid macro player but his early game and wittiness "suck". In the later stages of the tournament he has a disadvantage for sure.
Phyanketto
Profile Joined September 2011
United States601 Posts
April 23 2017 12:09 GMT
#91
On April 23 2017 21:08 tanngard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2017 21:06 Phyanketto wrote:
On April 23 2017 21:03 gngfn wrote:
On April 23 2017 21:00 Phyanketto wrote:
On April 23 2017 20:48 K.H.J wrote:
[image loading]


It is Stork.

He just says 'Sorry for my fans'

It's okay, it's still always going to be TaekbangLeessang

TaekMangLeessang

When did Guemchi change his name? And what happened to regular Mong? Mong was pretty good a year or two ago.

Mong has qualified for ro16.

drep
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10472 Posts
April 23 2017 12:11 GMT
#92
On April 23 2017 21:08 aedeph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2017 20:13 Miragee wrote:

Actually, protoss were doing quite well against zerg in the past few months, no? Anyways, glad to see ggaemo pulling through. It's obvious that he put a lot of work into this.


Especially they doing great in ASL3:

Shuttle Protoss 1 0 Zerg PURPOSE
Shuttle Protoss 0 1 Zerg Soulkey
EffOrt Zerg 1 0 Protoss Snow
Shine Zerg 1 0 Protoss free
Shine Zerg 1 0 Protoss Snow
hero Zerg 1 0 Protoss Lazy
hero Zerg 1 0 Protoss Rain
GuemChi Protoss 0 1 Zerg ggaemo
ggaemo Zerg 1 0 Protoss Pusan

So, it's basically 1-9, with single win of Shuttle versus some random lucky amateur.

i mean let's be real here, those protoss are definitely not good at PvZ. Free, Snow, Rain all more known for their PvT, Lazy, Purpose, Shuttle, Pusan all kind of just average, sub-par Protoss.

And they're up against EffOrt, Soulkey, hero who are amazing ZvPers. Shine and ggaemo are definitely more wildcard Zergs but Protoss have not really been respecting them as of late.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10472 Posts
April 23 2017 12:12 GMT
#93
On April 23 2017 21:03 gngfn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2017 21:00 Phyanketto wrote:
On April 23 2017 20:48 K.H.J wrote:
[image loading]


It is Stork.

He just says 'Sorry for my fans'

It's okay, it's still always going to be TaekbangLeessang

TaekMangLeessang

KimssangLeessang (two kims = bisu and last both start with kim)
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
April 23 2017 12:15 GMT
#94
Free was known for his PvZ in his prime. In particular, he was one of the most skilled users of the lategame Protoss deathball.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8671 Posts
April 23 2017 12:31 GMT
#95
On April 23 2017 21:15 gngfn wrote:
Free was known for his PvZ in his prime. In particular, he was one of the most skilled users of the lategame Protoss deathball.


wat?
aedeph
Profile Joined May 2015
104 Posts
April 23 2017 12:32 GMT
#96
On April 23 2017 21:11 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2017 21:08 aedeph wrote:
On April 23 2017 20:13 Miragee wrote:

Actually, protoss were doing quite well against zerg in the past few months, no? Anyways, glad to see ggaemo pulling through. It's obvious that he put a lot of work into this.


Especially they doing great in ASL3:

Shuttle Protoss 1 0 Zerg PURPOSE
Shuttle Protoss 0 1 Zerg Soulkey
EffOrt Zerg 1 0 Protoss Snow
Shine Zerg 1 0 Protoss free
Shine Zerg 1 0 Protoss Snow
hero Zerg 1 0 Protoss Lazy
hero Zerg 1 0 Protoss Rain
GuemChi Protoss 0 1 Zerg ggaemo
ggaemo Zerg 1 0 Protoss Pusan

So, it's basically 1-9, with single win of Shuttle versus some random lucky amateur.

i mean let's be real here, those protoss are definitely not good at PvZ. Free, Snow, Rain all more known for their PvT, Lazy, Purpose, Shuttle, Pusan all kind of just average, sub-par Protoss.

And they're up against EffOrt, Soulkey, hero who are amazing ZvPers. Shine and ggaemo are definitely more wildcard Zergs but Protoss have not really been respecting them as of late.


Let's be real here, the only good PvZer is Bisu, who lost two latest finals to Effort and Hero, respectively. And free, Rain, Shuttle are top 5 protosses (or around), just like Hero, Soulkey and EffOrt.
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
April 23 2017 12:42 GMT
#97
On April 23 2017 21:32 aedeph wrote:
Let's be real here, the only good PvZer is Bisu, who lost two latest finals to Effort and Hero, respectively. And free, Rain, Shuttle are top 5 protosses (or around), just like Hero, Soulkey and EffOrt.

Agreed. Like there's exactly one guy who's ever been as good at PvZ as Bisu and that's Bisu. And even Bisu always had trouble with hero, Shine, etc.

On April 23 2017 21:31 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2017 21:15 gngfn wrote:
Free was known for his PvZ in his prime. In particular, he was one of the most skilled users of the lategame Protoss deathball.


wat?

good reply
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
April 23 2017 12:54 GMT
#98
well , gotta have mediocre games to make the great ones stand out even more i guess
This is our town, scrub
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
April 23 2017 13:05 GMT
#99
On April 23 2017 21:32 aedeph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2017 21:11 FlaShFTW wrote:
On April 23 2017 21:08 aedeph wrote:
On April 23 2017 20:13 Miragee wrote:

Actually, protoss were doing quite well against zerg in the past few months, no? Anyways, glad to see ggaemo pulling through. It's obvious that he put a lot of work into this.


Especially they doing great in ASL3:

Shuttle Protoss 1 0 Zerg PURPOSE
Shuttle Protoss 0 1 Zerg Soulkey
EffOrt Zerg 1 0 Protoss Snow
Shine Zerg 1 0 Protoss free
Shine Zerg 1 0 Protoss Snow
hero Zerg 1 0 Protoss Lazy
hero Zerg 1 0 Protoss Rain
GuemChi Protoss 0 1 Zerg ggaemo
ggaemo Zerg 1 0 Protoss Pusan

So, it's basically 1-9, with single win of Shuttle versus some random lucky amateur.

i mean let's be real here, those protoss are definitely not good at PvZ. Free, Snow, Rain all more known for their PvT, Lazy, Purpose, Shuttle, Pusan all kind of just average, sub-par Protoss.

And they're up against EffOrt, Soulkey, hero who are amazing ZvPers. Shine and ggaemo are definitely more wildcard Zergs but Protoss have not really been respecting them as of late.


Let's be real here, the only good PvZer is Bisu, who lost two latest finals to Effort and Hero, respectively. And free, Rain, Shuttle are top 5 protosses (or around), just like Hero, Soulkey and EffOrt.


Rofl. They are not. You are clueless if you think free, rain, and shuttle come even close to the likes of Hero, Effort (and Soulkey).
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8671 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-23 13:11:11
April 23 2017 13:09 GMT
#100
On April 23 2017 21:42 gngfn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2017 21:32 aedeph wrote:
Let's be real here, the only good PvZer is Bisu, who lost two latest finals to Effort and Hero, respectively. And free, Rain, Shuttle are top 5 protosses (or around), just like Hero, Soulkey and EffOrt.

Agreed. Like there's exactly one guy who's ever been as good at PvZ as Bisu and that's Bisu. And even Bisu always had trouble with hero, Shine, etc.

Show nested quote +
On April 23 2017 21:31 Miragee wrote:
On April 23 2017 21:15 gngfn wrote:
Free was known for his PvZ in his prime. In particular, he was one of the most skilled users of the lategame Protoss deathball.


wat?

good reply


Thank you.

On a more serious note though, I basically agree with what FlashFTW said. Stork had a pretty good PvZ but that was because he was a monster in each match up. I mean he had an even record with JD. I would also argue that Kal and Movie had decent PvZ if you compare it to their general level of play as well as to other protoss players. Wooki also showed some signs that he might get the hang of PvZ shortly before the KeSPA era was over. I'm talking about the era after the revolution of course. In the end, only Bisu really seemed to have the upper hand in the PvZ match up though.
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