EPT[ASL2] Semifinals: Flash vs Jaedong - Page 79
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Leeoku
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Qikz
United Kingdom12025 Posts
Flash outplayed Jaedong in the games he won, but Jaedong made damn sure it was close! | ||
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Farkinator
United States283 Posts
On January 17 2017 03:41 BisuDagger wrote: It's in the OP, but here it is too. http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2 This is an official stream that both FlashFTW and I are part of. More stuff: + Show Spoiler + I can't have my stream on the right side of TL because Afreeca.TV api isn't supported. The only way to make people aware of my stream is word of mouth. I've casted every ASL1 and 2 minus Christmas games, VANT Starleague, KSL, KCM Legend Matches, GOMTV Classic Season 4. multiples SSLs and SRTs just to name a few events. FlashFTW has helped cast many korean and foreign events too. That is why I ask that everyone rally behind our stream and show support for it. Y'all do a really good job casting, I prefer y'all to Tastosis because they're mostly just joking around and aren't exactly hip to the metagame. But when I want to show games to my friends, I show them Tastosis' casts (sorry). | ||
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heartlxp
United States1258 Posts
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Starlightsun
United States1405 Posts
On January 18 2017 14:00 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote: This. I want to encourage first time watchers to post opinions, and have discussions about the game here on TL. But yeah, resist the temptation to either downplay Flash's play, attribute wins to "massing m&m", or think that terran is just imba. I know that watching Flash play kind of really gives that impression, but there is so much more to it than that that its hard to figure out where to begin. The easiest way to put it is that countless other really really talented and hardworking terran professional players have graced the BW scene and they simply cannot do what Flash does. It really sometimes feels like u are watching a completely different race altogether. I don't think just watching people play can really do it justice either. You have to actually go play BW against bad players online to realize how godlike players like Flash and Jaedong are. It's one thing to theorize about which race is strongest if played perfectly, but try controlling a single group of MM against lurkers without letting your macro falter before acting like anyone, even the best pros, can maintain perfection every game. Flash isn't exceptional only because of his mechanics and control, but also his intuitive sense of predicting what his opponent will do, and making the best decisions even under heavy pressure. People who cry "terran imba" either don't realize that or are deliberately ignoring it. | ||
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Superbanana
2369 Posts
I was moved watching Flash in the interview. He was moved, almost cried. Jaedong was mostly excited. | ||
FlaShFTW
United States10334 Posts
On January 19 2017 04:55 Farkinator wrote: Y'all do a really good job casting, I prefer y'all to Tastosis because they're mostly just joking around and aren't exactly hip to the metagame. But when I want to show games to my friends, I show them Tastosis' casts (sorry). They're probably for the newer crowd and getting people from SC2 to BW so yeah I could see why you'd recommend them for that. To each their own though. | ||
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ortseam
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_Animus_
Bulgaria1064 Posts
On January 19 2017 03:42 Peeano wrote: Some of you guys should really give more credit to Flash tbh, i.e. mainly the butt hurt JD fans who are crying imba.  hmm i was not jaedong fan untill this match and i dont cry imba, i just think the credit should be given to jaedong for his amazing performance with so little time for practice, because of the recent switch from SC2. | ||
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SirGlinG
Sweden933 Posts
JD just three hatch lurker'd the game before, had a similar if not exactly the same set up for this game. The timing of moving out those 3-4 hydras that Flash saw, was it within reason to be read as JD just going for a lurker contain/push? Or did Flash misread the timing and what he needed to defend? It's a odd push so no matter how Godly he is, playing that is gonna be difficult. BTW next season Hydras will be the meta of very Zerg match up and JD will win! | ||
Peeano
Netherlands5234 Posts
On January 19 2017 09:16 _Animus_ wrote: hmm i was not jaedong fan untill this match and i dont cry imba, i just think the credit should be given to jaedong for his amazing performance with so little time for practice, because of the recent switch from SC2. I meant more credit than they are giving him. I didn't say either one deserves more credit, but credit should be given to both players obviously. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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Miragee
8646 Posts
On January 19 2017 09:34 SirGlinG wrote: I'm thinking of the scan Flash did on JD's hydras as he saw them move out before the hydra ling push. JD just three hatch lurker'd the game before, had a similar if not exactly the same set up for this game. The timing of moving out those 3-4 hydras that Flash saw, was it within reason to be read as JD just going for a lurker contain/push? Or did Flash misread the timing and what he needed to defend? It's a odd push so no matter how Godly he is, playing that is gonna be difficult. BTW next season Hydras will be the meta of very Zerg match up and JD will win! We discussed this in this thread before. Some people claimed that he also scanned that the gas at the nat wasn't taken in which case he missread the situation and thought it would be lurkers but it should have been clear that it wouldn't be lurkers on just one gas. He moved out to find the lurker eggs, which also supports this argument. And no, Hydras will not be the meta in ZvT because they suck vs bio big time. | ||
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revy
United States1524 Posts
Here's hoping we get to see these two sharpen their skills and meet in many more bo5s. While we're at it, let's hope proleague gets resurrected and the bw scene recovers to the glory days. | ||
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O.P.
Sweden109 Posts
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aseq
Netherlands3996 Posts
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On January 19 2017 12:48 O.P. wrote: I have a slow connection. Is there a way to keep the Afreeca videos from buffering every three seconds? Choose either Low Quality or Mobile Quality from that little cog thingie at the lower right of the video window? I've had to do that once or twice, does seem to help... though Mobile Quality completely sucks on a laptop or desktop screen. Low is fine, though. | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On January 19 2017 09:52 Miragee wrote: And no, Hydras will not be the meta in ZvT because they suck vs bio big time. Maybe they won't be in the ZvT meta overall, but you could see the occasional 'Jaedong Fake Lurker Rush That Is Actually Hydras' be attempted on occasion. 'Cuz it's just so damn effin' cool.  | ||
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O.P.
Sweden109 Posts
On January 19 2017 13:01 [[Starlight]] wrote: Choose either Low Quality or Mobile Quality from that little cog thingie at the lower right of the video window? I've had to do that once or twice, does seem to help... though Mobile Quality completely sucks on a laptop or desktop screen. Low is fine, though. Nope, the app doesn't have any cog. The laptop player has a cog, but it doesn't let me change any settings. | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On January 19 2017 13:17 O.P. wrote: Nope, the app doesn't have any cog. The laptop player has a cog, but it doesn't let me change any settings. My bad, I was referring to the live casts, which do indeed allow you to select quality level. You're obviously looking at the VODs, which have had some problems of late. I think it was mentioned that the VODs for the Flash vs Jaedong series were going to be re-done and re-uploaded soon, if that's the specific issue you're encountering. | ||
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