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Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1613 Posts
January 08 2017 12:38 GMT
#401
- I am Mang
- I am Flash
INnoVation TY Maru | Classic Stats Dear sOs Zest herO | Rogue Dark soO
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-08 13:43:25
January 08 2017 12:42 GMT
#402
Stork vs Jaedong in 2 days should be epic.

But all this stayin' up late is really killin' my sleep.

User was warned for being hilarious
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
January 08 2017 12:42 GMT
#403
This ASL has actually been T<Z<P<T
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51709 Posts
January 08 2017 12:42 GMT
#404
On January 08 2017 21:38 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 21:35 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On January 08 2017 21:17 LittLeLives wrote:
On January 08 2017 21:14 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On January 08 2017 21:12 usopsama wrote:
[image loading]


That is sick. I kinda want one now.


Kinda hard when there's no more OSL.


eh well, we'll see.

Is that a tease or just hope


the latter, I don't want to get people's hopes up by talking about stuff I literally do not know.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-08 13:32:48
January 08 2017 12:45 GMT
#405
On January 08 2017 21:42 ortseam wrote:
This ASL has actually been T<Z<P<T

Whoever's been in the best recent form has won and overcome any minor race imba in the process, yes.


User was warned for being hilarious
BrosephBrostar
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States445 Posts
January 08 2017 12:52 GMT
#406
On January 08 2017 21:14 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 21:12 usopsama wrote:
[image loading]


That is sick. I kinda want one now.


I don't think you can get a golden mouse anymore.
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
January 08 2017 12:54 GMT
#407
On January 08 2017 21:42 ortseam wrote:
This ASL has actually been T<Z<P<T

I agree with you and my view: P is best in the first 10 minutes, T is best about 11-20 minutes and Z is best in the remain time of the game.
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-08 13:30:18
January 08 2017 13:00 GMT
#408
On January 08 2017 21:52 BrosephBrostar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 21:14 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On January 08 2017 21:12 usopsama wrote:
[image loading]


That is sick. I kinda want one now.


I don't think you can get a golden mouse anymore.


Didn't know the scarf also doubled as a mouse. Cool tech.

User was warned for being hilarious
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
January 08 2017 13:13 GMT
#409
Watched on my phone so didn't comment in thread. Think Guemchi played pretty well, but just couldn't keep up with the macro in a later game. It'd be interesting to see how Flash would do against someone like Stork who wouldn't do the little things like forgetting recall, now that we've seen some things that will allow Protoss to get an advantage
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Arca(Crema)
Profile Joined March 2011
Spain44 Posts
January 08 2017 13:59 GMT
#410
The VOD on youtube keeps skipping and is unwatchable, does anybody know where I can find english cast VOD for this? Thanks
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8716 Posts
January 08 2017 14:20 GMT
#411
On January 08 2017 22:59 Arca(Crema) wrote:
The VOD on youtube keeps skipping and is unwatchable, does anybody know where I can find english cast VOD for this? Thanks


Here you go: http://afreeca.tv/36833823/v/57014
dunne_bo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bolivia79 Posts
January 08 2017 14:21 GMT
#412
I watched them here: http://afreeca.tv/36855042/v/57016
o.o
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-08 14:37:32
January 08 2017 14:36 GMT
#413
On January 08 2017 22:13 sixfour wrote:
Watched on my phone so didn't comment in thread. Think Guemchi played pretty well, but just couldn't keep up with the macro in a later game. It'd be interesting to see how Flash would do against someone like Stork who wouldn't do the little things like forgetting recall, now that we've seen some things that will allow Protoss to get an advantage


I know a player called Stork who forgot the goon range in a very crucial game .

(Even if GuemChi hadn't forgotten to research recall, the game was lost anyway for him).
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 08 2017 14:38 GMT
#414
On January 08 2017 21:42 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 21:38 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 08 2017 21:35 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On January 08 2017 21:17 LittLeLives wrote:
On January 08 2017 21:14 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On January 08 2017 21:12 usopsama wrote:
[image loading]


That is sick. I kinda want one now.


Kinda hard when there's no more OSL.


eh well, we'll see.

Is that a tease or just hope


the latter, I don't want to get people's hopes up by talking about stuff I literally do not know.

mhm, we all hope for that though haha
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-08 15:04:42
January 08 2017 14:40 GMT
#415
Watching game 1 and i really think flash lost his former skill. Such bad decisions, such bad trades. Guemchi had that game as soon as flash get out to secure 3rd, with only 2 siege tanks and he saw it with obs, he didnt believe in himself enough to give this opportunity a chance... Then a terrible late game army management from guemchi. Looking to me as if hes focused only on prolonging game ,while he dont stand a chance vs flash in a late game. Thats a losers mindset, Guemchi had so many opportunities to win earlier...
Luv ya BroodWar!
danielias21
Profile Joined May 2015
39 Posts
January 08 2017 15:57 GMT
#416
On January 08 2017 22:59 Arca(Crema) wrote:
The VOD on youtube keeps skipping and is unwatchable, does anybody know where I can find english cast VOD for this? Thanks


here: http://afreeca.tv/36855042/v/57016
danielias21
Profile Joined May 2015
39 Posts
January 08 2017 15:58 GMT
#417
at what exact momment flash was pissed?
Hildegard
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
Germany348 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-08 16:24:13
January 08 2017 16:14 GMT
#418
On January 08 2017 23:40 _Animus_ wrote:
Watching game 1 and i really think flash lost his former skill. Such bad decisions, such bad trades. Guemchi had that game as soon as flash get out to secure 3rd, with only 2 siege tanks and he saw it with obs, he didnt believe in himself enough to give this opportunity a chance... Then a terrible late game army management from guemchi. Looking to me as if hes focused only on prolonging game ,while he dont stand a chance vs flash in a late game. Thats a losers mindset, Guemchi had so many opportunities to win earlier...


Obviously. His prime is many years ago, he is a streamer now and not a whole team and trainers supporting him anymore. He aged well, but he still aged and he will never be as good as he was again.

ASL is an awesome tournament, but it's a streamer tournament and not comparable to OSL/MSL. He is still among if not the very best player this game has, which is pretty impressive.

Unless BW teams re-emerge, stay for some years and get new blood in I doubt we will ever see someone play on the level Flash had in his prime ever again.

Edit: He also is free for the first time. He has money, he is semi-famous and can decide what he wants to do. So he probably trains less, drinks more and enjoys the company of female fans and that's well deserved.
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Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States928 Posts
January 08 2017 16:36 GMT
#419
On January 08 2017 23:40 _Animus_ wrote:
Watching game 1 and i really think flash lost his former skill. Such bad decisions, such bad trades. Guemchi had that game as soon as flash get out to secure 3rd, with only 2 siege tanks and he saw it with obs, he didnt believe in himself enough to give this opportunity a chance... Then a terrible late game army management from guemchi. Looking to me as if hes focused only on prolonging game ,while he dont stand a chance vs flash in a late game. Thats a losers mindset, Guemchi had so many opportunities to win earlier...


He did say he hated his performance. BTW, he mismicroed those units and those weren't bad decisions ( he said himself). He's been wrecking the scene with 80% win rate in sponsored matchups so far. Flash did not lose his former skills lmao. Once again, another D rank iccup talking nonsense
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tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-08 17:10:39
January 08 2017 17:09 GMT
#420
On January 09 2017 01:36 Shinokuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2017 23:40 _Animus_ wrote:
Watching game 1 and i really think flash lost his former skill. Such bad decisions, such bad trades. Guemchi had that game as soon as flash get out to secure 3rd, with only 2 siege tanks and he saw it with obs, he didnt believe in himself enough to give this opportunity a chance... Then a terrible late game army management from guemchi. Looking to me as if hes focused only on prolonging game ,while he dont stand a chance vs flash in a late game. Thats a losers mindset, Guemchi had so many opportunities to win earlier...


He did say he hated his performance. BTW, he mismicroed those units and those weren't bad decisions ( he said himself). He's been wrecking the scene with 80% win rate in sponsored matchups so far. Flash did not lose his former skills lmao. Once again, another D rank iccup talking nonsense


Whoa dude cool it with the personal attacks, this is ridiculous. Of course Flash has lost skill since he trained 12 hours/day with a full team of coaches, practice partners, and a regular salary. You don't have to be an A-ranked player or even particularly skilled at BW to see that flash now is not as good as flash 5 years ago. You can be a fanboy all you want and you can disagree with his observations but jumping down someone's throat makes you look like a jerk.
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