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[VNSL] Finals: Bisu vs EffOrt - Page 50

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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
January 23 2016 10:52 GMT
#981
On January 23 2016 19:47 GTR wrote:
Photos: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1675903056023282.1073741841.1601609510119304&type=3&uploaded=17

Thanks for this and your VNSL work!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
January 23 2016 10:52 GMT
#982
BW Pro Leagues are now so old they can vote.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 23 2016 10:54 GMT
#983
I just can't get over how awesome it is to have official english coverage on BW events, in 2016

taking melee as an example it seems like a good game will never truly die
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
January 23 2016 10:55 GMT
#984
On January 23 2016 19:47 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 19:45 amazingxkcd wrote:
For those of you who stuck with our cast until the end, thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!

This! ^

GG, great season. /SadBisuFan

Thanks team!
Liquipedia
Zera
Profile Joined April 2010
Lithuania716 Posts
January 23 2016 10:56 GMT
#985
All streams combined the numbers peaked at nearly 90k!! BW pouaaaa!!

and..

+ Show Spoiler +
ZERG MASTER RACE
JD fanboy. #FPPS
SpeaKEaSY
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1070 Posts
January 23 2016 10:59 GMT
#986
On January 23 2016 19:35 Qikz wrote:
The best thing? Flash has 2 tournaments CONFIRMED to go and play in.

He'll just be beaten by FanTaSy in the finals!


make it so
Aim for perfection, settle for mediocrity - KawaiiRice 2014
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
January 23 2016 11:00 GMT
#987
On January 23 2016 19:24 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 19:23 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On January 23 2016 19:20 disciple wrote:
On January 23 2016 19:18 Plexa wrote:
On January 23 2016 19:17 disciple wrote:
God im salty

Here, let me help you, http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/127971-effort-is-still-bad

If anything todays result fuels hotbids nonsensical argument that effort is as good as the big 4. I bet hb is smug as fuck right now


who are the big 4?

bisu stork jaedong flash

Stork? there were more acomplished players than him no?
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50602 Posts
January 23 2016 11:02 GMT
#988
On January 23 2016 20:00 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 19:24 Plexa wrote:
On January 23 2016 19:23 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On January 23 2016 19:20 disciple wrote:
On January 23 2016 19:18 Plexa wrote:
On January 23 2016 19:17 disciple wrote:
God im salty

Here, let me help you, http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/127971-effort-is-still-bad

If anything todays result fuels hotbids nonsensical argument that effort is as good as the big 4. I bet hb is smug as fuck right now


who are the big 4?

bisu stork jaedong flash

Stork? there were more acomplished players than him no?


its more the era than accomplishment, and proleague plays a big part in that.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
January 23 2016 11:02 GMT
#989
On January 23 2016 19:45 amazingxkcd wrote:
For those of you who stuck with our cast until the end, thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you casting next season too or will this be the end?
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50602 Posts
January 23 2016 11:03 GMT
#990
On January 23 2016 20:02 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 19:45 amazingxkcd wrote:
For those of you who stuck with our cast until the end, thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you casting next season too or will this be the end?


nothing is set yet.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10012 Posts
January 23 2016 11:04 GMT
#991
just finished watching the vods

+ Show Spoiler +
why has bisu been playing so sloppy lately? his mechanics look off even in his recent youtube vods
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 23 2016 11:06 GMT
#992
On January 23 2016 20:00 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 19:24 Plexa wrote:
On January 23 2016 19:23 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On January 23 2016 19:20 disciple wrote:
On January 23 2016 19:18 Plexa wrote:
On January 23 2016 19:17 disciple wrote:
God im salty

Here, let me help you, http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/127971-effort-is-still-bad

If anything todays result fuels hotbids nonsensical argument that effort is as good as the big 4. I bet hb is smug as fuck right now


who are the big 4?

bisu stork jaedong flash

Stork? there were more acomplished players than him no?

Take a good look at Stork's body of work pls.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10260 Posts
January 23 2016 11:10 GMT
#993
On January 23 2016 20:06 c3rberUs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 20:00 LemOn wrote:
On January 23 2016 19:24 Plexa wrote:
On January 23 2016 19:23 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On January 23 2016 19:20 disciple wrote:
On January 23 2016 19:18 Plexa wrote:
On January 23 2016 19:17 disciple wrote:
God im salty

Here, let me help you, http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/127971-effort-is-still-bad

If anything todays result fuels hotbids nonsensical argument that effort is as good as the big 4. I bet hb is smug as fuck right now


who are the big 4?

bisu stork jaedong flash

Stork? there were more acomplished players than him no?

Take a good look at Stork's body of work pls.

It's the Korean fans that decided that they were the big 4, and Korean fans are rarely unanimous on anything. They know their shit. TBLS is no fluke, and no, no one was more suited for it. One could argue for a different ascendancy towards the end of BW KeSPA (Fantasy, JangBi, for instance). But TBLS is TBLS. No questions asked.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13295 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-23 11:18:16
January 23 2016 11:17 GMT
#994
On January 23 2016 20:04 TT1 wrote:
just finished watching the vods

+ Show Spoiler +
why has bisu been playing so sloppy lately? his mechanics look off even in his recent youtube vods


The players are like semi-pros now I guess. They don't have the team structures anymore so aren't as sharp as they once were.

It's a common theme in all the games.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8620 Posts
January 23 2016 11:18 GMT
#995
On January 23 2016 19:47 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 19:45 amazingxkcd wrote:
For those of you who stuck with our cast until the end, thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!

This! ^

GG, great season. /SadBisuFan


Great work, the both of you! Really enjoyed your cast for the finals!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
January 23 2016 11:18 GMT
#996
On January 23 2016 19:20 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 19:18 Plexa wrote:
On January 23 2016 19:17 disciple wrote:
God im salty

Here, let me help you, http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/127971-effort-is-still-bad

If anything todays result fuels hotbids nonsensical argument that effort is as good as the big 4. I bet hb is smug as fuck right now

Call me a fan boy, but if I had to cheapen efforts run:
He beat:
Pure - worst Protoss
ZeLoT - mediocre P
July - low tier zerg
zero - ZvZzzzzz
Guemchi - low tier PvZ-er
Bisu - PvZ is his worst matchup

and he was second in both group stages. So not the most stellar run.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
January 23 2016 11:24 GMT
#997
Thank you BisuDagger and XKCD for your casting this tournament from Start to Finish. Awesome job!
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-23 11:27:04
January 23 2016 11:26 GMT
#998
it would have helped your case if you didn't forgot that effort actually lost to the "mediocre P" first time round and if it wasn't for Busan someone else would be winning the title today
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
January 23 2016 11:26 GMT
#999
On January 23 2016 20:24 WrathSCII wrote:
Thank you BisuDagger and XKCD for your casting this tournament from Start to Finish. Awesome job!


Indeed : )
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10012 Posts
January 23 2016 11:28 GMT
#1000
On January 23 2016 20:17 RowdierBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 20:04 TT1 wrote:
just finished watching the vods

+ Show Spoiler +
why has bisu been playing so sloppy lately? his mechanics look off even in his recent youtube vods


The players are like semi-pros now I guess. They don't have the team structures anymore so aren't as sharp as they once were.

It's a common theme in all the games.


yea but still.. his play was much cleaner just a few months ago, i started watching his vods again this week and his mechanics looked pretty sloppy (for his standards). its odd because this is the first time i've noticed such a significant drop in his mechanics, its easy to spot when you're watching his fpvods.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
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