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Also on a side note concerning this C rank discussion. I lose quite a lot to D/D+ and even C- players with average records like 21-18 D+ or 50-72 C-.
Maybe I am just bad at this game. That is probably the case but I don't see a big difference between C-/C and D+ level on ICCup now. It all depends who that C-/C is playing etc. I've seen lots of accounts where the guy is C- but he has played a lot of very good players or a bunch of C+ guys over and over and then you find a C player (like me) who plays whoever joins my game so my matchlist is mixed with me playing against C-/C and alot of D/D+ players and a B- mixed in here and there.
I don't think ones 'rank' really determines their skill. Just reaching a rank is one thing. Constantly staying at the rank over a bunch of games is another. If your playing on ICCup MOTW and you've reached your peak skill level and are losing more then your winning to people of your same rank you would still stay at that same rank otherwise you would slowly move up if you mass game.
Also, with this ICCup change that a C+ can play a D-/D and get 75 points or something similar (more with MOTW) then it makes getting a higher rank easier if someone abuses that.
This is just my opinion.
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On October 16 2015 23:08 Yaqoob wrote:
Also on a side note concerning this C rank discussion. I lose quite a lot to D/D+ and even C- players with average records like 21-18 D+ or 50-72 C-.
Maybe I am just bad at this game. That is probably the case but I don't see a big difference between C-/C and D+ level on ICCup now. It all depends who that C+ is playing etc. I've seen lots of accounts where the guy is C- but he has played a lot of very good players or a bunch of C+ guys over and over and then you find a C player (like me) who plays whoever joins my game so my matchlist is mixed with me playing against C-/C and alot of D/D+ players and a B- mixed in here and there.
I don't think ones 'rank' really determines their skill. Just reaching a rank is one thing. Constantly staying at the rank over a bunch of games is another. If your playing on ICCup MOTW and you've reached your peak skill level and are losing more then your winning you would still stay at that said rank otherwise you would slowly move up if you mass game.
This is just my opinion.
I don't disagree.
The rank is "Yellow" and "Red" there is no such thing as + or - anymore with the new system.
+ Show Spoiler [In my experience at D+] +It's also important to note that regardless what the cap is, the skill difference will be massive. It's very difficult (former ranks) for a D rank to beat a D+. If you had a 50% winrate at D+ going up against 50% winrate D rank on the old system, you knew there was almost no chance of losing.
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On October 16 2015 17:25 PhilipJayFry wrote:Hey Shimy and all other contributors, thanks for organizing this! Count me in: Name: BaD]Fry Race: Terran Max iCCup Rank: D/D+ (Profile)Country: Germany I would like to team up with Cele if he plays. So here my shout out to Cele: “Go register and convince the other Bratwürstchen to do so too! Otherwise I will annoy you myself next week when I finally get internet in my new flat…”  If team Sauerbraten doesn’t come true, I would be fine with any team, preferably with some former TAKK members 
working on Team Sauerbraten currently, we'll see :>
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Time to sign up a partial team
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Team DEsPA
Name:Art_Of_Turtle (Captain)
Race(define if Race Picker): 
Max iCCup Rank: C (not actually playing for the team)
Country: USA
Name:JXN
Race(define if Race Picker):
Max iCCup Rank: D+
Country: Malaysia
Name:Artanis
Race(define if Race Picker):
Max iCCup Rank: C
Country:Neverland
Name: BaD]Seed
Race(define if Race Picker):  (if Allowed)  (If random not allowed)
Max iCCup Rank:D+
Country: Germany
Name: Rocko
Race(define if Race Picker): v  v v
Max iCCup Rank:D+
Country: Germany
Name:Ninazerg (Unofficial Team Troll)
Race(define if Race Picker):
Max iCCup Rank: Pikachu Rank
Country: USA
Name:Qikz
Race(define if Race Picker):
Max iCCup Rank: C-
Country: Great Britain
Name:DazedSpy
Race(define if Race Picker):
Max iCCup Rank: C-
Country: USA
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Name: f10eQQ
Race(define if Race Picker): Protoss
Max iCCup Rank: C after point inflation
Country: USA
Even though i reached a personal goal of C last season on one of my my accounts (50-45 stats), I was playing a long series vs one opponent on a map particularly good for PvT (10-15 on Jade ftw). Also, my main account is barely breaking C- with pretty terrible stats this season.
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On October 17 2015 01:58 art_of_turtle wrote:Name:Artanis Race(define if Race Picker): Max iCCup Rank: C Country:Dutch?
The Netherlands. + Show Spoiler +
Name:Ninazerg (Unofficial Team Troll) Race(define if Race Picker): Max iCCup Rank: Pikachu Rank Country: USA
;-; why are you doing this
WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS
Just let me go, I won't tell the cops, I swear! I just want to go home! I just want to go home!
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On October 17 2015 01:58 art_of_turtle wrote:Time to sign up a partial team Team DEsPA Name:Art_Of_Turtle (Captain) Race(define if Race Picker): Max iCCup Rank: C Country: USA Name:JXN Race(define if Race Picker): Max iCCup Rank: D+ Country: Malaysia Name:Artanis Race(define if Race Picker): Max iCCup Rank: C Country:Dutch? Name:ChrisSolo Race(define if Race Picker): Max iCCup Rank:D+ Country: Germany Name: Rocko Race(define if Race Picker): v v v Max iCCup Rank:D+ Country: Germany Name:Ninazerg (Unofficial Team Troll) Race(define if Race Picker): Max iCCup Rank: Pikachu Rank Country: USA
Sorry but this realy beats the idea of having a d/c- teamleague. Both artanis and art of turtle are actuall y solid c ranks in the old system. I dont see why a team of d, d+ players should want to play in this.
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On October 17 2015 05:05 Cele wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2015 01:58 art_of_turtle wrote:Time to sign up a partial team Team DEsPA Name:Art_Of_Turtle (Captain) Race(define if Race Picker): Max iCCup Rank: C Country: USA Name:JXN Race(define if Race Picker): Max iCCup Rank: D+ Country: Malaysia Name:Artanis Race(define if Race Picker): Max iCCup Rank: C Country:Dutch? Name:ChrisSolo Race(define if Race Picker): Max iCCup Rank:D+ Country: Germany Name: Rocko Race(define if Race Picker): v v v Max iCCup Rank:D+ Country: Germany Name:Ninazerg (Unofficial Team Troll) Race(define if Race Picker): Max iCCup Rank: Pikachu Rank Country: USA Sorry but this realy beats the idea of having a d/c- teamleague. Both artanis and art of turtle are actuall y solid c ranks in the old system. I dont see why a team of d, d+ players should want to play in this.
sorry forgot to mention im just captain
Although I would like to make a case for Artanis since he hasnt played in a bit
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On October 17 2015 05:05 Cele wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2015 01:58 art_of_turtle wrote:Time to sign up a partial team Team DEsPA Name:Art_Of_Turtle (Captain) Race(define if Race Picker): Max iCCup Rank: C Country: USA Name:JXN Race(define if Race Picker): Max iCCup Rank: D+ Country: Malaysia Name:Artanis Race(define if Race Picker): Max iCCup Rank: C Country:Dutch? Name:ChrisSolo Race(define if Race Picker): Max iCCup Rank:D+ Country: Germany Name: Rocko Race(define if Race Picker): v v v Max iCCup Rank:D+ Country: Germany Name:Ninazerg (Unofficial Team Troll) Race(define if Race Picker): Max iCCup Rank: Pikachu Rank Country: USA Sorry but this realy beats the idea of having a d/c- teamleague. Both artanis and art of turtle are actuall y solid c ranks in the old system. I dont see why a team of d, d+ players should want to play in this.
I feel like I'm being obnoxiously contrary, but don't quite understand that.
Let me preface by saying I do agree if you're going to make a league with an attempt at a skill cap, and are using ICC ranks, you should set a hard cap without exceptions. It's the only way to be objective about it OR just state that you're doing a league primarily for D- to C-, but will make exceptions for well known players that may be close to that skill range.
I truly don't understand the bolded part though. Why would I, or any other D ranker, not want to play in this?
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Name:dazed.
Race zerg
Max iCCup Rank: c- by the old standards
Country:canada
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On October 17 2015 05:38 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2015 05:05 Cele wrote:On October 17 2015 01:58 art_of_turtle wrote:Time to sign up a partial team Team DEsPA Name:Art_Of_Turtle (Captain) Race(define if Race Picker): Max iCCup Rank: C Country: USA Name:JXN Race(define if Race Picker): Max iCCup Rank: D+ Country: Malaysia Name:Artanis Race(define if Race Picker): Max iCCup Rank: C Country:Dutch? Name:ChrisSolo Race(define if Race Picker): Max iCCup Rank:D+ Country: Germany Name: Rocko Race(define if Race Picker): v v v Max iCCup Rank:D+ Country: Germany Name:Ninazerg (Unofficial Team Troll) Race(define if Race Picker): Max iCCup Rank: Pikachu Rank Country: USA Sorry but this realy beats the idea of having a d/c- teamleague. Both artanis and art of turtle are actuall y solid c ranks in the old system. I dont see why a team of d, d+ players should want to play in this. I feel like I'm being obnoxiously contrary, but don't quite understand that. Let me preface by saying I do agree if you're going to make a league with an attempt at a skill cap, and are using ICC ranks, you should set a hard cap without exceptions. It's the only way to be objective about it OR just state that you're doing a league primarily for D- to C-, but will make exceptions for well known players that may be close to that skill range. I truly don't understand the bolded part though. Why would I, or any other D ranker, not want to play in this?
I didn't phrase that really well, i intended to say that: I think a solid D rank player, that's a player who actively plays ladder and still hover's around the D icon has no valid chance to beat a player that good, the same is true for solid D+ ranks. That, in my opinion, beats the idea of the league, which is to give lower rank player a competetive environment where they have a decent shot at winning. That's why im opposed to it.
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Russian Federation51 Posts
Name: iCCup.JiN
Race: random
max iCCup Rank: C(old reating sistem)
Country:RUSSIA
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Name: CrispyDrone
Race: Zerg
max iCCup Rank: C-
Country: Belgium
New to brood war, started 4 (?) months ago. Dedicated to improving though.
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Name: eSpi.LoCcxitO
Race: Terran
max iCCup Rank: C
Country: Perú
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Canada11350 Posts
Name: sGs.Passafist
Race: Protoss
max iCCup Rank: D+ (old ladder)
Country: Canada
If sB reforms, I'll join them, but if not, I'll free agent.
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Its pretty amazing that they are announcing this on ICCup server.
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On October 17 2015 01:58 art_of_turtle wrote:Name:ChrisSolo Race(define if Race Picker): Max iCCup Rank:D+ Country: Germany
I dont know why AoT didnt fix this, but my Name is chrisolo (ICC: BaD]Seed) and I will be playing Random (if its allowed, but it wasnt stated that it wasnt. In case it isn't allowed, I will be playing Protoss)
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On October 17 2015 06:01 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Name:dazed.
Race zerg
Max iCCup Rank: c- by the old standards
Country:canada
Dazed you should join DeSPA again, Mate!
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Just to throw my opinion in there; I haven't played actively in months and I really have no idea as to my skill level. If it turns out I'm too good I'll be happy to resign from playing. If people think I'm likely too good/there's a lot of opposition to me playing I'm fine with not playing as well.
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iccup acount romarior max c-
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