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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
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amazingxkcd
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![[image loading]](/staff/v1/works/ssl11/polls.jpg) Poll: Who will win? Mind (17) Effort (15) 32 total votes Your vote: Who will win? Poll: Who will win? Last (19) Olympus (9) 28 total votes Your vote: Who will win? Poll: Who will win? Free (20) Guemchi (6) 26 total votes Your vote: Who will win? Poll: Who will win? Hiya (20) Hero (8) 28 total votes Your vote: Who will win? | ||
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Croatia9495 Posts
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
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maybenexttime
Poland5536 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19225 Posts
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TheGreatOne
United States534 Posts
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SWAT-Kat
United States311 Posts
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
On July 05 2015 12:15 SWAT-Kat wrote: Olympus for the upset!!! Mind Olympus GShizzle Hero all to win today | ||
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
effort last free hiya | ||
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
Also Bak Jae Hyun hwaiting!!! | ||
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kerpal
United Kingdom2695 Posts
I think free and last should clean up easily too. | ||
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reminisce12
Australia318 Posts
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art_of_turtle
United States1183 Posts
but hype hype hype | ||
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kerpal
United Kingdom2695 Posts
On July 05 2015 18:39 art_of_turtle wrote: I think i can only stay away for Mind vs Effort but hype hype hype Do we know 100% that the order in the OP is what sonic is going to stick to? | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
On July 05 2015 18:57 kerpal wrote: Do we know 100% that the order in the OP is what sonic is going to stick to? its accurate | ||
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SWAT-Kat
United States311 Posts
GO TIME!!! | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
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GTR
51427 Posts
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art_of_turtle
United States1183 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19225 Posts
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johanes
Czech Republic2227 Posts
EDIT: Ninjaed | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
snipe may be down but bgvrt is still here | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
Mind as Yellow Terran at 5 EffOrt as purple Zerg at 1 | ||
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Epithet
United States840 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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SWAT-Kat
United States311 Posts
It's neat to see how these players know each other well and that they enjoy playing against each other. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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Epithet
United States840 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
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nurle
Norway308 Posts
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Epithet
United States840 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
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Epithet
United States840 Posts
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nurle
Norway308 Posts
On July 05 2015 19:19 BLinD-RawR wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Afreeca BW Thanks | ||
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Epithet
United States840 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19225 Posts
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Ej_
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
curtains if effort dont do something magic | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
On July 05 2015 19:31 GumBa wrote: BW TvZ is just great hey gumba! | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
suuuuuuuuuuuuup! | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
On July 05 2015 19:35 GumBa wrote: The comeback is real boys :') #believe you like brood war now? Am I not safe anywhere? | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 05 2015 19:36 Heartland wrote: you like brood war now? Am I not safe anywhere? hi Heartland | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
what's up? | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 05 2015 19:36 Heartland wrote: you like brood war now? Am I not safe anywhere? I have always liked BW. I just never posted here because I wasn't cool enough. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
On July 05 2015 19:36 Heartland wrote: you like brood war now? Am I not safe anywhere? Eh? Don't most people on tl watch both? | ||
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ShloobeR
Korea (South)3809 Posts
Mind won? : ( | ||
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
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Epithet
United States840 Posts
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
The comeback juice dried up. | ||
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Piste
6174 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
On July 05 2015 19:37 GumBa wrote: I have always liked BW. I just never posted here because I wasn't cool enough. lol no, based on our past conversations you're totally cool enough to be here. | ||
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
On July 05 2015 19:39 deathgod6 wrote: The Mind is the greatest weapon of all. Remember that, boys. The Ultimate Weapon? | ||
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
I thought  Flash was the ultimate weapon. | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
do they? | ||
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
1/4 there | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
the silent minority goddamnit effOrt | ||
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
I always just assumed they did haha | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
no they don't only a few do and even fewer admit to it. | ||
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kerpal
United Kingdom2695 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
Not if you see the difference between viewer numbers and how active LRs are and who is in different LRs. People on TL just say they like BW as part of their general resentment vs sc2 (but watch sc2 and not BW) | ||
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
On July 05 2015 19:40 BLinD-RawR wrote: no they don't only a few do and even fewer admit to it. Watching scrawny koreans play video games is so shameful  | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 05 2015 19:39 BLinD-RawR wrote: lol no, based on our past conversations you're totally cool enough to be here. Dear Diary, Today I have been noticed and accepted to post in the bw forum by BlinD-RawR senpai *gyah! Today was a good day. xP | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 05 2015 19:41 Heartland wrote: Not if you see the difference between viewer numbers and how active LRs are and who is in different LRs. People on TL just say they like BW as part of their general resentment vs sc2 (but watch sc2 and not BW) What if I love sc2 and BW and other esports? | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 05 2015 19:41 Heartland wrote: Not if you see the difference between viewer numbers and how active LRs are and who is in different LRs. People on TL just say they like BW as part of their general resentment vs sc2 (but watch sc2 and not BW) I'd watch both but Afreeca lags like motherfucker and most of the tournaments are during weekday mornings for me | ||
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
On July 05 2015 19:41 Heartland wrote: Not if you see the difference between viewer numbers and how active LRs are and who is in different LRs. People on TL just say they like BW as part of their general resentment vs sc2 (but watch sc2 and not BW) I thought they were just pussies about admitting it. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
On July 05 2015 19:41 GumBa wrote: Dear Diary, Today I have been noticed and accepted to post in the bw forum by BlinD-RawR senpai *gyah! Today was a good day. xP You forgot to write down the date xd | ||
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
As long as you don't like league it's fine. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 05 2015 19:42 Ej_ wrote: I'd watch both but Afreeca lags like motherfucker and most of the tournaments are during weekday mornings for me Afreeca is really smooth where I live. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 05 2015 19:43 HellHound wrote: As long as you don't like league it's fine. My friends forced me to try to play it and watch it. Honestly wasnt that impressed. | ||
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
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Epithet
United States840 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
On July 05 2015 19:44 HellHound wrote: Above average internet connection imba. I can rarely watch afreeca streams :/ and I got good internetz | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 05 2015 19:44 Heartland wrote: I can rarely watch afreeca streams :/ and I got good internetz Germany>Sweden C O N F I R M E D | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
Like Luke Skywalker hearing from Obi that his father died, so has Flash died for BW. Mind lives on, having briefly been in the tutelage of the great master himself. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 05 2015 19:47 deathgod6 wrote: Like Luke Skywalker hearing from Obi that his father died, so has Flash died for BW. Mind lives on, having briefly been in the tutelage of the great master himself. Ssak>Mind SKT>KT xD | ||
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
On July 05 2015 19:47 deathgod6 wrote: Like Luke Skywalker hearing from Obi that his father died, so has Flash died for BW. Mind lives on, having briefly been in the tutelage of the great master himself. So mind is darth vader? Or Luke? | ||
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 05 2015 19:49 GumBa wrote: Last gonna school Olympus plz, not gonna happen | ||
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
Flash is darth vader. And Yoda apparently. You get the idea. | ||
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
Olympus!!!!!! Beat this terran scum! | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
EZ Last plays Terran that means he is just a superior human being. | ||
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
its in the post. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
O_O how dare you. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
On July 05 2015 19:52 GumBa wrote: Does NukeTheStars still cast does anyone know? Used to enjoy his YT channel. dude nuke has been gone since the last OSL | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 05 2015 19:52 BLinD-RawR wrote: dude nuke has been gone since the last OSL I know he said it was his last but I was hoping for a comeback | ||
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
Yeah, forgot about that x_x | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
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remag
Germany354 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
On July 05 2015 19:58 remag wrote: omg was that the real Scan? yeah, scan and beast | ||
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Epithet
United States840 Posts
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
 beast lol | ||
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
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remag
Germany354 Posts
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No_eL
Chile1438 Posts
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
On July 05 2015 20:01 remag wrote: Last is just killing himself he did kill 1 pylon 2 gw 1 citadel 1 templar archives on the way there | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
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johanes
Czech Republic2227 Posts
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Miragee
8493 Posts
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Epithet
United States840 Posts
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FirstProbe
1206 Posts
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19225 Posts
On July 05 2015 19:39 Piste wrote: bisudagger no cast? amazingxkcd? I had stream issues. I will rebroadcast in English later today if I can get the korean VODs. | ||
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
On July 05 2015 20:10 GumBa wrote: What the hell is this. Sbenu fashion show in the middle of the LoL finals. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 05 2015 20:10 GumBa wrote: What the hell is this. Lorning wanted to play SC2 now | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
Poll: Recommend EffOrt vs Mind? Yes (10) No (0) If you have time (0) 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend EffOrt vs Mind? | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
I can play tomorrow. Or this evening. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
lol tell him to come here and watch the fashion show. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
english cast, better late than never. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 05 2015 20:16 BLinD-RawR wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/BisuDagger english cast, better late than never. BD carrying BW esports | ||
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fearthequeen
United States786 Posts
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
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Epithet
United States840 Posts
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
Got scouted by free though. | ||
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GTR
51427 Posts
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
On July 05 2015 20:25 GTR wrote: feel sorry for that fangirl being picked on she looks like zero and calm. | ||
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
On July 05 2015 20:25 GTR wrote: feel sorry for that fangirl being picked on Was that the fangirl who's viewing the stream? | ||
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Epithet
United States840 Posts
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
On July 05 2015 20:26 Epithet wrote: Why didn't he at least cancel the reaver lol Did Guemchi even know he was scouted? | ||
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
yes | ||
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
That was a really bad decision then | ||
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Epithet
United States840 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
Yes, captain. | ||
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
Beast recently came out for the vacation from military. Btw hiya got fatter hmm.. | ||
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
On July 05 2015 20:43 LaStScan wrote: Why would I lie that I'm in kr and with beast x.x Beast recently came out for the vacation from military. Btw hiya got fatter hmm.. You typed Kappa XD | ||
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remag
Germany354 Posts
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
You're a goddamn dodger | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
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Garrl
Scotland1972 Posts
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
On July 05 2015 20:43 LaStScan wrote: Why would I lie that I'm in kr and with beast x.x Beast recently came out for the vacation from military. Btw hiya got fatter hmm.. you cannot type twitch memes on TL, you will warn for that | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
On July 05 2015 21:00 HellHound wrote: loser bracket is so long haha what? theres no loser bracket its round robin. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 05 2015 21:01 BLinD-RawR wrote: what? theres no loser bracket its round robin. wrong thread haha | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
No I'm lazy xP | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
on TL you're absolved of all crimes if you're watching/playing BW. | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
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prech
United States2948 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/UNoAZ1f.jpg) http://www.sbenu.co.kr/board/board.html?code=sbenu_board6 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/avGWGvX.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2PEfE7Z.png) http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/view.php?ud=2015070521221555124 Prepared extra scourge, if I could prevent drop, I would do well ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/YFnt5uR.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/s9IqVKD.png) http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/view.php?ud=2015070521221555124  GuemChi is unpredictable, made sure to scout extensively![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/u7Byiib.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3L2ytNS.png) http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/view.php?ud=2015070520082734942 CB favors Zerg a bit, but Jade skews towards Terran ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/nUttgSp.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/x3c0JMR.png) http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/view.php?ud=2015070520331842244 Anticipated DT's, I smelled victory the moment I found his gateways. | ||
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prech
United States2948 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/q0cJ5K3.png) http://www.hungryapp.co.kr/news/news_view.php?bcode=news&pid=28017&catecode=009&rtype=B&page=1&searchtype=subject&searchstr=스타리그&tcnt=&tbcnt=&block=&mn=&mx= Practicing a lot, so wrist has been sore, but today was alright. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/eeAMRSE.png) http://www.hungryapp.co.kr/news/news_view.php?bcode=news&pid=28015&catecode=009&rtype=B&page=1&searchtype=subject&searchstr=스타리그&tcnt=&tbcnt=&block=&mn=&mx= Expected to find three gateways in main, so as soon as I saw only one, that was the turning point. I just focused on defending against DTs. Two Zerg ahead of me. If I can beat Killer, I should advance. Thanks to all the players who helped practice.![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/yZD5SVj.png) http://www.hungryapp.co.kr/news/news_view.php?bcode=news&pid=28014&catecode=009&rtype=B&page=1&searchtype=subject&searchstr=스타리그&tcnt=&tbcnt=&block=&mn=&mx= Intentionally didn't prepare a special strategy and played standard. I want to beat Bisu in the finals, but Bisu may be more preoccupied with Zerg like ZerO right now![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Jh1Xj73.png) http://www.hungryapp.co.kr/news/news_view.php?bcode=news&pid=28016&catecode=009&rtype=B&page=1&searchtype=subject&searchstr=스타리그&tcnt=&tbcnt=&block=&mn=&mx= Suspected something awry so made sure to scout a lot. But even after taking out the robotics pylon, it was still a tense game. Hoping to do better than last season. Thanks to all the players who helped practice. | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19225 Posts
On July 06 2015 00:17 Heartland wrote: Any english vod link? I'm recording the first two games later today. Ill post links after. Sorry for the delay. | ||
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
other games such flops lol, though I appreciate olympus going for it | ||
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Miragee
8493 Posts
On July 06 2015 03:36 BisuDagger wrote: I'm recording the first two games later today. Ill post links after. Sorry for the delay. Don't worry, glad you are doing it! Looking forward to Mind vs Effort because I missed that one. | ||
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
3rd pylon should be finished before core finished (2 zealots into goons). In PvP, this is the usually the build order. When the core finishes, the population is 24/25. That's why you need 3rd pylon before core finishes. However, Olympus lost 1 zealot, and he did not put the 3rd pylon on time for his strategy. All of his game plan delayed. A little disappointed of his optimization skill. | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19225 Posts
On July 06 2015 05:51 LaStScan wrote: Olympus's 3rd pylon was so slow for adun. 3rd pylon should be finished before core finished (2 zealots into goons). In PvP, this is the usually the build order. When the core finishes, the population is 24/25. That's why you need 3rd pylon before core finishes. However, Olympus lost 1 zealot, and he did not put the 3rd pylon on time for his strategy. All of his game plan delayed. A little disappointed of his optimization skill. Thanks for the TL sign Scan. | ||
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yestaiga
Canada21 Posts
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outscar
2832 Posts
On July 06 2015 00:54 amazingxkcd wrote: sorry for not showing up to cast, I dont think you guys would have wanted to hear me be in space again. How could you say that when I finally get used to your cast? Hoping to see you with Dagger and Sayle trio again. On July 06 2015 09:22 yestaiga wrote: Are VODs up anywhere for this yet?? | ||
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
Did you catch me? | ||
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
On July 06 2015 14:44 outscar wrote: How could you say that when I finally get used to your cast? Hoping to see you with Dagger and Sayle trio again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-W2tqyTqoM Your posted VOD is not available for my country(Korea). | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
On July 06 2015 03:36 BisuDagger wrote: I'm recording the first two games later today. Ill post links after. Sorry for the delay. sooooo | ||
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
Mind really wants to beat Bisu in the finals again huh? With how Scan described Olympus' preventable delays, I think it was Olympus' lost rather than Last's win. | ||
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No_eL
Chile1438 Posts
I hope we will see you soon playing in the cabins. Maybe next SSL? Or before that? | ||
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
On July 07 2015 02:42 No_eL wrote: yes scan, we saw you in the stream! Was so nice to have TL presence in the audience! I hope we will see you soon playing in the cabins. Maybe next SSL? Or before that? Due to the OGN's schedule, each SSL will take a long time to finish. I won't be participating until next year of summer. It also depends on sponsorship and existence in the future. | ||
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prech
United States2948 Posts
Hopefully our Korean speakers will know more, but there's been a big uproar across many of the progamers' Afreeca pages and the Ygosu BW forum, spanning hundreds of posts... Thanks to ShloobeR for translation help. Apparently OGN had been using Windows 7 for BW and alerted progamers of this, giving them time to adequately prepare.  Effort asked that they switch to Windows XP noting Win7 is not as responsive when running BW, but was denied.Anyhow, it seems after the match against  Mind, EffOrt had a bit of a drunken tirade on his stream, something about his muta control not being as robust as he's used to. Apparently  Bisu made a request to use WinXP and lo and behold, all the OGN computers switched over from Win7, but EffOrt was denied the same opportunity when he had tried to request this earlier, so he was fully expecting Win7. When he showed up for his match, he was surprised to find WinXP instead, so he noted that Bisu received star treatment and a double standard, as well as his muta control problems.It seems Sea and HiyA made some remarks about it on their streams, further propagating the controversy... From what I could gather with Google Translate, a lot of the forum posts are discussing the validity of the operating system responsiveness issue, as well as EffOrt's professionalism.I didn't see the drunken VOD on EffOrt's Afreeca page, so maybe he's already removed it. He made a post yesterday that he's going to take some time off and has been quiet since... + Show Spoiler [Two Korean forum threads] + 저번 시즌 윈7을 사용하는 스베누 리그에서 김정우가 윈도우xp로 교체 해달라는 건의를 함 아마 윈도우7과 xp는 미세하지만 반응속도 차이가 있음. 온겜넷에서는 안된다고 거절했고 수긍한 정우는 윈7으로 바꿔 6개월간 연습함. 그런데 이번 시즌 택신이 윈xp 사용여부를 건의함. 온겜넷측에선 다른 선수들의 건의와 달리 교체를 수락 했고 김정우는 거기에 있어서 빡이돔. 내가 들은 이야기로 이게 맞는거 같은데 어제 김정우가 술마시고 감정적으로 말을 막한점이 있다. 자기도 아니라고 생각한 말들을 했을거라 생각하고 그만큼 맘상했을거란거 이해도 된다. 택신이 잘못한건 없는데 괜히 밉보이는 점도 있는거 같고 빨리 해결됬으면 한다 2010년에 대한항공 스타리그 우승자였던 김정우가 갑자기 스베누 스타리그 기권이유.. 1.윈도우7과 윈도우xp 뮤탈 반응속도가 달라서 온게임넷에 xp로 교체 요구. 2.근데 온게임넷은 김정우의견 묵살 3.김택용이 온게임넷에 xp로 바꿔달라고 요구 근데 온게임넷이 김택용 요구 들어줘서 xp로 바꿔줌 4.김정우는 온게임넷에서 xp로 안바꿔준다해서 다시 윈도우7로 연습함 5.오늘 스베누 리그경기 참가했는데 김택용 요구로 이미 컴퓨터가 xp로 바꿔져 있었음 6.결국 김정우 오늘경기 지고 빡쳐서 온게임넷에 리그기권선언함. 7.김택용이 말한건 들어주면서 온게임넷이 김정우 의견은 무시함 정리 결국 스베누나 온게임넷은 스타리그의 흥행을 위해선 흥행카드인 김택용이 결승전에 가야 흥행이됨 다른선수 의견은 반영안해주면서 김택용 의견은 적극적으로 반영해줌 김정우는 차별대우를 받은게 강했고 스스로 난 1회우승자고 택용이형은 3회우승자니까 클라스가 다르니 어쩔수없다 리그기권선언 | ||
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
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ShloobeR
Korea (South)3809 Posts
but Effort is claiming that the impact on mutalisk control is not insubstantial | ||
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TheGreatOne
United States534 Posts
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outscar
2832 Posts
On July 06 2015 17:33 LaStScan wrote: Your posted VOD is not available for my country(Korea). This is bullshit from OGN, but be smart, go proxy. On July 07 2015 15:08 prech wrote: ^^Thanks, BD Hopefully our Korean speakers will know more, but there's been a big uproar across many of the progamers' Afreeca pages and the Ygosu BW forum, spanning hundreds of posts... Thanks to ShloobeR for translation help. Apparently OGN had been using Windows 7 for BW and alerted progamers of this, giving them time to adequately prepare. Effort asked that they switch to Windows XP noting Win7 is not as responsive when running BW, but was denied.Anyhow, it seems after the match against Mind, EffOrt had a bit of a drunken tirade on his stream, something about his muta control not being as robust as he's used to. Apparently Bisu made a request to use WinXP and lo and behold, all the OGN computers switched over from Win7, but EffOrt was denied the same opportunity when he had tried to request this earlier, so he was fully expecting Win7. When he showed up for his match, he was surprised to find WinXP instead, so he noted that Bisu received star treatment and a double standard, as well as his muta control problems.It seems Sea and HiyA made some remarks about it on their streams, further propagating the controversy... From what I could gather with Google Translate, a lot of the forum posts are discussing the validity of the operating system responsiveness issue, as well as EffOrt's professionalism.I didn't see the drunken VOD on EffOrt's Afreeca page, so maybe he's already removed it. He made a post yesterday that he's going to take some time off and has been quiet since... + Show Spoiler [Two Korean forum threads] + 저번 시즌 윈7을 사용하는 스베누 리그에서 김정우가 윈도우xp로 교체 해달라는 건의를 함 아마 윈도우7과 xp는 미세하지만 반응속도 차이가 있음. 온겜넷에서는 안된다고 거절했고 수긍한 정우는 윈7으로 바꿔 6개월간 연습함. 그런데 이번 시즌 택신이 윈xp 사용여부를 건의함. 온겜넷측에선 다른 선수들의 건의와 달리 교체를 수락 했고 김정우는 거기에 있어서 빡이돔. 내가 들은 이야기로 이게 맞는거 같은데 어제 김정우가 술마시고 감정적으로 말을 막한점이 있다. 자기도 아니라고 생각한 말들을 했을거라 생각하고 그만큼 맘상했을거란거 이해도 된다. 택신이 잘못한건 없는데 괜히 밉보이는 점도 있는거 같고 빨리 해결됬으면 한다 2010년에 대한항공 스타리그 우승자였던 김정우가 갑자기 스베누 스타리그 기권이유.. 1.윈도우7과 윈도우xp 뮤탈 반응속도가 달라서 온게임넷에 xp로 교체 요구. 2.근데 온게임넷은 김정우의견 묵살 3.김택용이 온게임넷에 xp로 바꿔달라고 요구 근데 온게임넷이 김택용 요구 들어줘서 xp로 바꿔줌 4.김정우는 온게임넷에서 xp로 안바꿔준다해서 다시 윈도우7로 연습함 5.오늘 스베누 리그경기 참가했는데 김택용 요구로 이미 컴퓨터가 xp로 바꿔져 있었음 6.결국 김정우 오늘경기 지고 빡쳐서 온게임넷에 리그기권선언함. 7.김택용이 말한건 들어주면서 온게임넷이 김정우 의견은 무시함 정리 결국 스베누나 온게임넷은 스타리그의 흥행을 위해선 흥행카드인 김택용이 결승전에 가야 흥행이됨 다른선수 의견은 반영안해주면서 김택용 의견은 적극적으로 반영해줌 김정우는 차별대우를 받은게 강했고 스스로 난 1회우승자고 택용이형은 3회우승자니까 클라스가 다르니 어쩔수없다 리그기권선언 Maybe OGN denied switching to XP from Win7 because of only 1 player, but then Bisu (and maybe other's too who use XP) told that he used to play on this OS so they changed it because of numerous requests. You can't say no when there are only 16 top players there. Then what the hell is Effort's problem? He got WinXP which he requested/used to practice when he showed against Mind. | ||
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Ty2
United States1434 Posts
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Piste
6174 Posts
Does it create more latency? Effort seems like a jelly child, he got what he wanted and still it's no good enough. Mind would have dropped him anyway tho. it's a pity he let's down his fans like that and leaves a running televised tournament. I hope he will not be accepted to SSL never again so at least we get to see players who are at least willing to try. | ||
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fearthequeen
United States786 Posts
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
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dbssaber
United States193 Posts
Thanks BD! | ||
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
On July 09 2015 02:24 Dazed_Spy wrote: It's absurd to see just how conservative and reactionary korean culture is. One drunken tirade and suddenly its a huge controversy where he has to pull out of leagues over. The whole hierarchy and all that tension, too, is just a product of koreas rigid conservatism. I don't think he pulled out because of his drunken tirade. | ||
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Scrutinizer
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
instead of this fiasco now effort should have insisted on XP back then or flat out not even participate in the first place XP OR NO PARTICIPATION. he is one of the featured players in this tourney, and with Kongdoo/Sonic help OGN eventually have to relent and listen. if ogn still reject then the whole onus would be on OGN instead for refusing to listen to player's demands. | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10341 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i39.tinypic.com/2hgfn9d.jpg) Remember this? | ||
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quirinus
Croatia2489 Posts
I thought that some patch messed it up, the one where they played with latency. but it turns out to be w7. | ||
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Toasterbaked
United States160 Posts
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
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