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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 04 2015 15:38 GMT
#101
On April 05 2015 00:36 2Pacalypse- wrote:
are we going to see hive tech zvz?! :d

no
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9555 Posts
April 04 2015 15:38 GMT
#102
looks like not after all
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
ii.blitzkrieg
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada1122 Posts
April 04 2015 15:42 GMT
#103
well technically there was 1 hive lol

effort nooo
iloveoov / Flash / Fantasy / Midas / Boxer -BW forever
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
April 04 2015 15:42 GMT
#104
bah zero got a free ride into ro8 with lucky openings zz==

knowing him hes just gonna meekly die to a terran later

tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
April 04 2015 15:43 GMT
#105
Very good commentary from you kogeT.
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
April 04 2015 15:45 GMT
#106
On April 05 2015 00:42 Probemicro wrote:
bah zero got a free ride into ro8 with lucky openings zz==

knowing him hes just gonna meekly die to a terran later


What do you mean? Zero crushed Mong in KSL remember?
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
April 04 2015 15:52 GMT
#107
On April 05 2015 00:45 tanngard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 00:42 Probemicro wrote:
bah zero got a free ride into ro8 with lucky openings zz==

knowing him hes just gonna meekly die to a terran later


What do you mean? Zero crushed Mong in KSL remember?


1-2 loss isn't a "crushed"
and zero just utterly suicided his army to mong just now, remember?

effort had to put in much greater effort in both of his matches today only to lose out in the ZvZ die roll
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-04 16:51:51
April 04 2015 16:51 GMT
#108
On April 05 2015 00:52 Probemicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 00:45 tanngard wrote:
On April 05 2015 00:42 Probemicro wrote:
bah zero got a free ride into ro8 with lucky openings zz==

knowing him hes just gonna meekly die to a terran later


What do you mean? Zero crushed Mong in KSL remember?


1-2 loss isn't a "crushed"
and zero just utterly suicided his army to mong just now, remember?

effort had to put in much greater effort in both of his matches today only to lose out in the ZvZ die roll

He dominated him on day 2. Zero has like one of the greatest zvt in modern brood war, but you think you know him so much better right?
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
April 04 2015 21:42 GMT
#109
http://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw/c/6471506

my cast from today.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
April 04 2015 22:39 GMT
#110
Fun Mong/EffOrt and EffOrt/Zero games... wished we had Bo3s

(T)Mong climbs back to the #8 slot on the Elo!

Thanks, koget, adding your cast and Terror's VODs to Liquipedia now, will be glad to add vhvx's links if he's planning on sharing the FPVODs
Liquipedia
vhvvx777
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation541 Posts
April 04 2015 23:20 GMT
#111
i upload fpv tomorrow
GeLaar
Profile Joined January 2003
2421 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-05 01:28:36
April 05 2015 01:27 GMT
#112
Terror mentioned on stream that Pusan is about enter the military for his mandatory service, and that if he advances to Ro8, there would be a wildcard tourney for the 8 players who dropped out in the Ro16. (I haven't seen the games as I write this, so I don't know the result.)
Brood War is alive and well.
GeLaar
Profile Joined January 2003
2421 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-05 03:59:07
April 05 2015 03:55 GMT
#113
Haha, Terror asks Mong in his winner's interview: "How do you feel about advancing to the Ro8 as the first in your group?". Mong: "Well, first of all I would like to give praise to myself. I think I did really great today." Kkkk

At the end Mong shamelessly advertises for his cookies: "Please buy honeynchip snacks. They're really great, even Terror loves them and-"
Terror: "I don't like them."
Mong: "Excuse me?"
Terror: "I said I don't like these snacks."
Mong: "..."
Then both break out into laughter.
Brood War is alive and well.
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
April 05 2015 03:57 GMT
#114
On April 05 2015 10:27 GeLaar wrote:
Terror mentioned on stream that Pusan is about enter the military for his mandatory service, and that if he advances to Ro8, there would be a wildcard tourney for the 8 players who dropped out in the Ro16. (I haven't seen the games as I write this, so I don't know the result.)

Thanks for sharing this -- sad to see the old-timer go, not to mention being separated from his newborn

+ Show Spoiler [Pusan spoiler] +
Fortunately, Terror won't have to worry as Pusan did not advance


On April 05 2015 08:20 vhvvx777 wrote:
i upload fpv tomorrow
Thanks!
Liquipedia
GeLaar
Profile Joined January 2003
2421 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-05 04:18:45
April 05 2015 04:18 GMT
#115
On April 05 2015 12:57 prech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 10:27 GeLaar wrote:
Terror mentioned on stream that Pusan is about enter the military for his mandatory service, and that if he advances to Ro8, there would be a wildcard tourney for the 8 players who dropped out in the Ro16. (I haven't seen the games as I write this, so I don't know the result.)

Thanks for sharing this -- sad to see the old-timer go, not to mention being separated from his newborn

+ Show Spoiler [Pusan spoiler] +
Fortunately, Terror won't have to worry as Pusan did not advance


Indeed. At the end of the Loser's game they all show some respect for Pusan. Terror says that it's his final starleague, and that although he dropped out, he showed some decent games.

I agree with that. Effort's game vs. Mong showed that he was in good shape, and Pusan put up some good resistance against him. The game against Zero was also decent control-wise, but he made some poor tactical choices.

I'm guessing that nobody really expects Pusan to return to SC in two years, since it'll probably be just marriage and babies for him then. And who knows what the scene will look like then anyway...
Brood War is alive and well.
Gamlet
Profile Joined December 2012
Ukraine336 Posts
April 05 2015 05:36 GMT
#116
Liquipedia vods have some mistake/First game its Zero-Mong but in liquipedia its Pusan-Effort.Its problem of vodplacement/Not only match placement/Fix it plz/
Kiev
vhvvx777
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation541 Posts
April 05 2015 07:22 GMT
#117
Effort FPV vs Pusan FPV
Mong FPV vs Zero FPV
Effort FPV vs Mong FPV
Zero FPV vs Pusan FPV
Zero FPV vs Effort FPV
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
April 05 2015 18:24 GMT
#118
^^Thanks much, vhvvx777

Gamlet, all fixed, thanks for pointing it out
Liquipedia
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
April 05 2015 18:45 GMT
#119
On April 05 2015 00:19 reminisce12 wrote:
that zvt was confusing as hell.. effort didnt do any harrassment or attack early


This is pretty much how EffOrt has been playing. He plays extremely defensive with a very, very fast hive in probably 90% of his ZvTs on stream. It's actually kind of weird to watch, because it always feels like EffOrt is on the verge of dying. Even when he gets his hive and swarms up, it's like him still barely holding on for another 5-10 minutes.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-08 11:43:04
April 08 2015 11:36 GMT
#120
On April 06 2015 03:45 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2015 00:19 reminisce12 wrote:
that zvt was confusing as hell.. effort didnt do any harrassment or attack early


This is pretty much how EffOrt has been playing. He plays extremely defensive with a very, very fast hive in probably 90% of his ZvTs on stream. It's actually kind of weird to watch, because it always feels like EffOrt is on the verge of dying. Even when he gets his hive and swarms up, it's like him still barely holding on for another 5-10 minutes.


it doesn't mean effort only know how to play this defensive macro style, he still does some all-ins/pressure esque builds once in a while. just that doing defensive macro style is better for practicing general play/mechanics anyway. Also don't forget all the afreeca players play each other a lot, its best not to do all-ins one too many times lest you reveal your bag of tricks that make you less unpredictable in real competitions

apparently in the korean and chinese communities there are some speculation about the Mong v Effort game, with even a few calls of it being "fake" or fixed due to some of the really bad and/or questionable moves made by both players throughout the game...
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