7 zealots against like 2 control groups of lings. Zeus is prepared for the 3 lings with ramp guard zealots as a cannon warps in. That's a ton of lings and a ton of zealots.
Zeus's DT ended up being rather effective, the mutas catch archon zealot going north and bully the zealots a bit on the way. Tjos os a very strong attack, kills both sunkens but ultimately doesn't accomplish much... wait a minute, a zealot got into the main and killed 2-3 drones.
On December 31 2014 13:04 N.geNuity wrote: so, do we think gchizzle is going to go carriers on this map, as the prediction of all protoss interviewers so far?
On this map carrier is standard. Guemchi eats a vulture drop then goes on the offensive, carriers just crushing major's army. Major's everything is in the wrong place. Fast third evacuated. Guemchi getting one of his own.
On December 31 2014 13:10 Mirabel_ wrote: On this map carrier is standard. Guemchi eats a vulture drop then goes on the offensive, carriers just crushing major's army. Major's everything is in the wrong place. Fast third evacuated. Guemchi getting one of his own.
On December 31 2014 13:19 BigFan wrote: GG. Nice try major. You just got stuck playing against carriers, tough luck lol
this map looks so hard for PvT. But god bless carriers.
I think it's hard for both races. TvP, you have to go all the way around and can't go straight through the middle so mech control can be harder (goliath part at least) then you have to deal with carriers. PvT, harder to expand and you have to chose to engage wisely but carriers can help there.
On December 31 2014 13:19 BigFan wrote: GG. Nice try major. You just got stuck playing against carriers, tough luck lol
this map looks so hard for PvT. But god bless carriers.
I think it's hard for both races. TvP, you have to go all the way around and can't go straight through the middle so mech control can be harder (goliath part at least) then you have to deal with carriers. PvT, harder to expand and you have to chose to engage wisely but carriers can help there.
yes, i agree. in fact the map was apparently slightly P favored in Pro BW, so it definetly had it merrits/issues both ways. For interest, Sin Peaks
If you can name a single unit on-screen you're LRing I think.
Three vs two bases. Guemchi's shuttle is out and edging with sairs on the top right side of the map. Scouted by an overlord at top right, where it drops the reaver sheepishly. Scourge fleet surrounding a muta stack!
On December 31 2014 13:34 packrat386 wrote: I would do an LR, but I know nothing about his game
I think we're good for LR today. 2-3 people always do it together, teamwork! haha. On the other hand, watch, learn then LR next time with them ^^
Oh, I guess I assumed we didn't have it set up since its not quite the detail I'm used to in the massive SC2 threads. But thanks to Mirabel_, who I assume is helping out with this. Without your meta analysis I'd be truly lost
On December 31 2014 13:36 packrat386 wrote: Is sair reaver a rare occurence?
not too rare, just not the style of most protosses. I forget about gchizzle from his progamer days, but it was also on larger maps I feel (andromeda, electric circuit)
Shuttle w Reaver gets scouted as it flies on top right corner, immediately retreats back in fear Massive mutascourge cloud attacks the main, but enough sairs survive to repel.
Hydras come in from the back to kill the reavers! We've got DTs mixed in to clean it up! sairs prevent any overlords from doing anything and both players pull back! hero's hydras attack and then bakc off. Only fielded units are the sair stack over hero's base, and the mutas hanging out at 3 o clock!
On December 31 2014 13:34 packrat386 wrote: I would do an LR, but I know nothing about his game
I think we're good for LR today. 2-3 people always do it together, teamwork! haha. On the other hand, watch, learn then LR next time with them ^^
Oh, I guess I assumed we didn't have it set up since its not quite the detail I'm used to in the massive SC2 threads. But thanks to Mirabel_, who I assume is helping out with this. Without your meta analysis I'd be truly lost
ya, I know what you mean. The LRs here aren't quite as indepth but most BW fans end up watching the game or will read the recaps so it works out in the end
Hydras spill into the field, accompanied by one overlord for good measure. More hydras come from the north and are blunted by mass zealot. Hydra shuts down an expansion attempt by Guemchi. After all this time it's still 3 vs 2 bases.
hero taking near 4th at 9oclock, guemchi taking 3rd at 6oclock. Sairstack is getting surrounded! Two sairs dead. Reaver drops, leaves a scarab, then backs up. Lots of lurkers! Guemchi Nexus complete.
Shuttle sniped! hero's army chills while getting roasted by storms, then the REST of hero's army shows up and cleans Guemchi off the map! Desperate shuttle rushes across the field to do damage at 11:00!
Supernovamaniac: >hero, first of all congrats. how did you feel about zeus? did you think you were going to win a bit easily? 11:49Supernovamaniac: i didn't think that way 11:49Supernovamaniac: >how did you think about that game? 11:49 Protois: better than group a i guess 11:50Supernovamaniac: i thought i lost. but since zeus gave me a small chance (since he didn't push as much) i think i was able to win 11:50Supernovamaniac: >what if zeus had 30 more apm? 11:50Supernovamaniac: i would be playing in losers match right now 11:50 Sjukungen1: 11:50 Mirabel_: wow 11:50 Purakushi: XD 30 more apm 11:50 Mirabel_: respecting the legend 11:50Supernovamaniac: >did you regret your decision of picking zeus after that game? 11:50 Obsanity: any english caster on any stream? 11:50Supernovamaniac: since he's one of the older players who are good, he was pretty good with 2 gate play. even while practicing he was very good. >missed the rest because i dunno why 11:50 8igfan: no english caster atm 11:51 Herbmon: i wish 11:51Supernovamaniac: >did you feel nervous today for the group? 11:51Supernovamaniac: i felt a bit nervous and pressured 11:51 Herbmon: would get up on 11:51 Ngenuity: scans commentating afaik 11:51 Lldokll: i'm casting it in english 11:51Supernovamaniac: since everyone was saying it was easy 11:51 8igfan: oh right, scan is ^ 11:51Supernovamaniac: >but you said it was easy 11:51Supernovamaniac: well, after watching SSL for a while, i saw that good players were gettting knocked out and lost my confidence. In game 2, i told myself if i keep this up ill lose and played with confidence 11:51 Jc44627: scan is no longer casting 11:51Supernovamaniac: >how do you feel about group C? 11:51 Mirabel_: aw I was hoping scan was scanlating 11:51Supernovamaniac: >wait you're smiling because there are 2 protosses? 11:51 Mirabel_: DDD 11:52 Muarki: lldokll has casted the last game 11:52 Supernovamaniac: well, i wanted to go to group C, and now I'm..... a bit happy :d 11:52 8igfan: haha 11:52 Supernovamaniac: any last words for the fans? 11:52Supernovamaniac: >any last word for the fans? 11:52 Loadingdye: thanks for the translation 11:52 Loadingdye: gj 11:52 Kc_mrblue: thanks SNM, AND USHER too 11:52 Mirabel_: Can someone post that translation to TL LR thread? 11:52Supernovamaniac: i think i had a bit hard time advancing today. for the future matches, i'll make sure i'll be in better condition to make sure i can win my matches easily and show better matches to the fans
Big attack on Zeus's new third, but Zeus has a large attack coming now on Major. Major seems to be ahead as the attack is beaten by a bunch of sieged tanks.
On December 31 2014 14:14 Mirabel_ wrote: Zeus out of the tournament. Major getting a second lease on life as he prepares to lose again against Guemchi.
I'm detecting a hint of bias in our commentary today, or perhaps a pinch of salt...
On December 31 2014 14:14 Mirabel_ wrote: Zeus out of the tournament. Major getting a second lease on life as he prepares to lose again against Guemchi.
I'm detecting a hint of bias in our commentary today, or perhaps a pinch of salt...
No one would be happier than me if Major was suddenly somewhat relevant for the first time in his career. After all, who heard of Mong or Larva before their amateur debuts?
On December 31 2014 14:14 Mirabel_ wrote: Zeus out of the tournament. Major getting a second lease on life as he prepares to lose again against Guemchi.
I'm detecting a hint of bias in our commentary today, or perhaps a pinch of salt...
On December 31 2014 14:14 Mirabel_ wrote: Zeus out of the tournament. Major getting a second lease on life as he prepares to lose again against Guemchi.
I'm detecting a hint of bias in our commentary today, or perhaps a pinch of salt...
No one would be happier than me if Major was suddenly somewhat relevant for the first time in his career. After all, who heard of Mong or Larva before their amateur debuts?
I don't see major winning Guemchi. Guemchi even beat Bisu (or some other high tier player the other day) so he'll probably sweep him.
Gotunk: shoulnd't protoss Gotunk: get some goons? -_- Pr3ch: reeba reeba Taylorhaven: so close Seroqt: LOL Celetor: gotunk: isnt t so late on fax and tank count it is ok? Seroqt: almost killed like 20 scvs in one shot Mirabel_: hey look some goons
Supernovamaniac: >congrats on the win Supernovamaniac: thanks Supernovamaniac: >are you really that happy that you got ro16? Supernovamaniac: my second game didn't work out so well so i felt worried. but i drank that 'ENERGY UP POWER' drink, 2 of them so i was able to focus and win the game Supernovamaniac: > seems like you didn't play well in 2nd game. did your game against hero did not work out well? Supernovamaniac: i practiced against zero yesterday and even zero taught me small details. im just disappointed beacuse i didn't play well against hero on stage Supernovamaniac: >what's your goal for this season? Supernovamaniac: i went to ro36 before in OSL, but never in ro16. i realized how hard it was. that's why i always wanted to reach ro16 Supernovamaniac: and via sbenu starleague now i was able to achieve my goal Supernovamaniac: but in my personal stream i did say that ill go bald if i didnt make it into ro8 Supernovamaniac: so i will shave my head if i dont make it into ro8 >that's why you were so happy! you dont have to shave your head (yet)
Last game can easily be summarized as simple words by OGN casters as follows:
1:04Koreanusher: Casters saying larva is playing original starcraft, no broodwar 1:04Koreanusher: no broodwar units at all 1:04Koreanusher: no lurkers, only mutalisks and zerglings and guardians
On December 31 2014 15:07 QuickStriker wrote: Last game can easily be summarized as simple words by OGN casters as follows:
1:04Koreanusher: Casters saying larva is playing original starcraft, no broodwar 1:04Koreanusher: no broodwar units at all 1:04Koreanusher: no lurkers, only mutalisks and zerglings and guardians
On December 31 2014 15:07 QuickStriker wrote: Last game can easily be summarized as simple words by OGN casters as follows:
1:04Koreanusher: Casters saying larva is playing original starcraft, no broodwar 1:04Koreanusher: no broodwar units at all 1:04Koreanusher: no lurkers, only mutalisks and zerglings and guardians
I saw zerglings attacking Pure at his main and his natural and thought, he'll probably fight this off barely and die soon. I go take a look at facebook for less than 30 seconds and he's killing this zerg easily. da fuq.
It's awesome that TheMarine and the other guy (never knew his name) are still casting even though this production is levels below what they were doing before. They must really love this game and casting it. There are still quite a few people fighting for its resurgence.
On December 31 2014 15:31 Elyvilon wrote: wth happened there, I went away for a bit after lings destroyed Pure's main mineral line and then he won?
The only thing I can think of what happened is that spire didn't kill enough of Pure's main units even though he got probes and other stuff. Then he went to hardcore tech to make up for the fact that he hadn't teched because he just kind of went with lots of lings, so Pure had a window after he fended off the lings and he was smart enough to take it.
Larva stacking sunkens at his third in anticipation for a zealot assault. Scourge run into the sair stack and get bopped! Pure has unquestionable air control as he takes his third and eats overlord after overlord.
Zealots rape all the sunkens at Larva's natural and continue to kill the hatcheries. Death by supply block! He couldn't reinforce! Defending spire for deal life!
dang, doesn't sound like Larva played well that last game. Either way, still hoping that he advances though Sharp might have something to say about it if they have a rematch T.T
On December 31 2014 15:46 Waxangel wrote: can you still get banned for saying 1a2a3a? I say it with nostalgia
Koreanusher: Q: Congrats on victory Koreanusher: A: thank you Koreanusher: OGN asks about Pure's games, comments about his preparation Koreanusher: Pure says his last league preparation wasn't good, embarrassing but this preparation he tried hard and if he had gone out of ro32, it would have been really embarrassing for him Koreanusher: So he should aim for ro16, ro8, ro4, etc" Koreanusher: OGN asks for his future Koreanusher: Pure says how he's an past/ex-pro but he's dream like everyone to be on a grand stage and he hopes to do that for this Sonic Starleague Koreanusher: Casters mention about Pure's vZ record and if Pure's 2 wins against zergs were the reason of his happiness right now Koreanusher: Pure said he wasn't satisfied with his first game but second game went well as he wanted. Koreanusher: Casters mention regarding his winrate Koreanusher: "Are you going to aim for 50%? 60%?" Koreanusher: Pure says he'll try his best Koreanusher: (fun note: Pure overall winrate before this match is 26.42%) Koreanusher: OGN: congrats on your victory again Koreanusher: Pure: Thanks
On December 31 2014 15:49 BigFan wrote: dang, doesn't sound like Larva played well that last game. Either way, still hoping that he advances though Sharp might have something to say about it if they have a rematch T.T
Marine count dreadfully low! Medics getting sniped on retreat, more mutas jump into the stack! Awful damage on Sharp! Mutas dancing on his head all day!
Mutas finally wiped out. We have a new stack commencing! More zerg units on the field. Fresh vessels looking to Irradiate, they keep getting nearly-dead mutas anyway.
Commentators saying muta isn't doing important damage, which is reducing marine count or SCV, so this isn't really bad for Terran - just as bad as phone call from girlfriend during your game.
Lings make their way back in and kill the defenders! Sunken already up for Larva, so push forward was futile! Lings deal light damage to the economy as well before being relegated to scouting concerns. Mutas are already out and Sharp is dangerously low on rines! Too many bats!
Sharp had no idea the fast mutas were coming! Sharp has to turtle super hard now. Firebat sniped at the 4oclock corner. Two hatch Muta! So exciting to watch! Is this really Larva?
Terran assault on the 4:00. Lurkers getting focused down, but eventually force retreat. Mutaling failing to deliver a killing blow on the stack in conjunction with lurkers.
hold lurker not as juicy as it should be. Mutaling adequately shutting down terran assaults. That's a lot of lurkers and no tanks to speak of. Drop on Larva's natural.
Larva finally gets off Sharp's third. Sharp goes up the ramp to secure left side of the high ground.
Larva sends a huge number of hydras against the tank line. Only two swarms available and the attack fizzles out. He did net a good number of tanks tho.
YouTube reported some sort of copyright flag in Group E. I tried to strip out the offending song, but I may have screwed something up. The original is still up and while YouTube claims it's not visible in the USA I can see it... I really have no idea what's going on!
The time of these games is a bit early in the morning UK time for my liking. I've woken up and downloaded the above VOD's and am ready to go but I just wondered if there's anyone else in a similar postion who would like to chat in one of the snipealot streams or something whilst we watch the games. I'll wait 20 mins or so and see if there is any takers.
YouTube reported some sort of copyright flag in Group E. I tried to strip out the offending song, but I may have screwed something up. The original is still up and while YouTube claims it's not visible in the USA I can see it... I really have no idea what's going on!
YouTube reported some sort of copyright flag in Group E. I tried to strip out the offending song, but I may have screwed something up. The original is still up and while YouTube claims it's not visible in the USA I can see it... I really have no idea what's going on!
Well, don't get too excited: it looks like Group F has some blocked songs as well. I'm in the process of stripping them, but it looks like YouTube only tells me one copyright violation notice even if a song appears multiple times in a video, which means I have to upload (and "process", which takes YouTube forever) once per time a song appears in the video.
Unless anyone knows a better way to check for copyright flags, I might be stuck just trying a whole bunch of times. Luckily it appears that this doesn't cause strikes against my account, so I think it doesn't matter? I'm not really sure, though, as I'm very new to this whole YouTube thing
YouTube reported some sort of copyright flag in Group E. I tried to strip out the offending song, but I may have screwed something up. The original is still up and while YouTube claims it's not visible in the USA I can see it... I really have no idea what's going on!
Well, don't get too excited: it looks like Group F has some blocked songs as well. I'm in the process of stripping them, but it looks like YouTube only tells me one copyright violation notice even if a song appears multiple times in a video, which means I have to upload (and "process", which takes YouTube forever) once per time a song appears in the video.
Unless anyone knows a better way to check for copyright flags, I might be stuck just trying a whole bunch of times. Luckily it appears that this doesn't cause strikes against my account, so I think it doesn't matter? I'm not really sure, though, as I'm very new to this whole YouTube thing
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