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Oldschool vs Newschool KOTH

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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-21 22:21:43
August 16 2014 22:30 GMT
#1
What?

Silky Goose has decided to sponsor the scene with a €50 donation with the intention of bridging the gap between the oldschool and newschool players. Another donator added €10 to the pool, making the total €60. We're going to host a little King of the Hill event on Sunday, Aug 24 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which will last two and a half hours. At the end, the player with the most wins will play against the player sitting on the throne (in case they're different). Winner takes all.

How does it work?

There will be two lineups; the Oldschool players of which anyone playing in the Reunion Tournament is allowed, and the Newschool players which have participated in tournaments and had top finishes within the last year. Participants from both groups will play a Micro Tournament to decide the order in which they can play before the broadcast goes live, so players will be expected to be there half an hour early. If a newschool player is defeated, they're replaced with the next highest seed of the newschool players. Same goes for the oldschoolers.

Maps

                                                                  Python                              Destination
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                                                            Blue Storm                              Tau Cross

The starting map will be Tau Cross. From there on out, the challenger may pick from the map pool.

Newschool lineup

  • sas.ZaraKi
  • LancerX
  • sas.Sziky
  • Marwin
  • Bonyth[PaiN]
  • LRM)INF3CTED
  • ZZZero
  • trutaCz


Reserve:
  • [sc1f]Eonzerg
  • Belladona
  • dr.shrinker


What if the matches are too onesided?

If it turns out the skill gap is far too large, handicaps will start to be introduced. Creativity is encouraged.

Can I donate?

You can donate to increase the prize pool directly. Please state clearly in the comments that you wish to donate for the Oldschool vs Newschool KOTH event.

Broadcast

The event will be broadcasted live by Sayle and Players from the tournament and last two hours, after which we will finish up the Reunion Tournament.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11604 Posts
August 16 2014 22:33 GMT
#2
Aw yeah. Artanis is boss, bringing bw tourneys back.
Moderator5000 of our finest Taliban warriors have been released! Rise up my brothers. Mashalla! al-Donald ibn-Frederick al-Masih allows it.
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1743 Posts
August 16 2014 22:33 GMT
#3
That is more interesting than that reunion tournament. But I fall into the bad old school player so I won't be participating -_-
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
Dknight
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States5224 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-16 22:42:40
August 16 2014 22:42 GMT
#4
You accepting donations for best game/pimpest play?
WGT<3. Former CL/NW head admin.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 16 2014 22:45 GMT
#5
On August 17 2014 07:42 Dknight wrote:
You accepting donations for best game/pimpest play?

Sure
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
August 16 2014 22:47 GMT
#6
Sorry to say but 2 hours is not enough for a king of the hill event. If someone wins a game or two and wants to kill time to keep their record they can just camp and defend from a deficit and prolong the game for an hour... Second question, does Scan qualify for this?
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 16 2014 22:50 GMT
#7
On August 17 2014 07:47 dRaW wrote:
Sorry to say but 2 hours is not enough for a king of the hill event. If someone wins a game or two and wants to kill time to keep their record they can just camp and defend from a deficit and prolong the game for an hour...

If anyone does dumb shit like that they're disqualified by default.
Second question, does Scan qualify for this?

The event is for the amateur/foreign scene. Given Scan's activity I wouldn't consider him an amateur.
lolo075249
Profile Joined August 2014
China3 Posts
August 17 2014 06:41 GMT
#8
--- Nuked ---
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7013 Posts
August 17 2014 07:28 GMT
#9
So sziky will play for the oldschool or the newschool ?
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2610 Posts
August 17 2014 08:53 GMT
#10
I think newschool is the wrong term used in this context. I would rather use "still active players" vs "inactive retired players". So I'd guess Artanis would rate him into the former group. Would be dumb if not, tbh.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
trutaCz
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland686 Posts
August 17 2014 11:16 GMT
#11
Sure, kinda retarded, i play BW since 2005 ;;
yo~.~
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
August 17 2014 11:28 GMT
#12
jesus stop complaining already
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
trutaCz
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland686 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-17 11:46:04
August 17 2014 11:44 GMT
#13
Wait, what? People who started playing in 2003 are oldschools and these from 2005 are newschools? Guy just pointed out that more fitting name is "Old players against New players" so i believe that's complaining.
yo~.~
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
August 17 2014 11:50 GMT
#14
i think you should just be happy this is even happening
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 17 2014 11:51 GMT
#15
With newschool I mean the people that are still active in the scene. The choice of name was poor, that's true.
trutaCz
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland686 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-17 12:00:41
August 17 2014 11:55 GMT
#16
On August 17 2014 20:50 PredY wrote:
i think you should just be happy this is even happening


I'm happy about every BW event.
yo~.~
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
August 17 2014 12:01 GMT
#17
because Lex (Artanis) is such a great guy and decided to organize this event as well
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
August 17 2014 12:12 GMT
#18
On August 17 2014 21:01 PredY wrote:
because Lex (Artanis) is such a great guy and decided to organize this event as well


Lex (Artanis) is the enemy of mankind, an evil dutch person and a horrible nagger!
sas.ZaRaki
Profile Joined March 2012
Spain199 Posts
August 17 2014 13:20 GMT
#19
really nice tours artanis, bw loves you
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
August 17 2014 16:54 GMT
#20
Great stuff
En Taro Violet
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
August 17 2014 17:20 GMT
#21
Lancer you must win this :009:
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
August 17 2014 17:56 GMT
#22
This is amazing ^.^
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
RMuSt
Profile Joined February 2011
Russian Federation181 Posts
August 17 2014 20:06 GMT
#23
yes! il rape all guys that humilated me in past <3
marwin
Profile Joined June 2011
Ukraine111 Posts
August 18 2014 09:45 GMT
#24
i'm in!
Du kan om du vill...
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 20:25:34
August 20 2014 01:34 GMT
#25
Playerlist:
sas.ZaraKi
[sc1f]eOnzerg
sas.Sziky
Marwin
Bonyth
LRM)Inf3cted
ZZZero
TrutaCz

Reserve:
Belladona
dr.shrinker
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10841 Posts
August 20 2014 02:06 GMT
#26
You are right, "Newschool" isn't the right name for this group of players lol
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
August 20 2014 02:28 GMT
#27
zaRaki teh god! xd
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
August 20 2014 03:32 GMT
#28
Sub Sugo for lancer! We need the legendary russian protoss master.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Mewka
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland1458 Posts
August 20 2014 06:43 GMT
#29
No offence, but I doubt SuGo should be here.
Mewka, Mewka[AoV], Fox.Mewka, Mewman
vanatir
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany355 Posts
August 20 2014 07:44 GMT
#30
enough players for an 2,5h event i guess.
aka EnjoYmE - streaming on http://www.twitch.tv/myprobe
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7584 Posts
August 20 2014 07:51 GMT
#31
Thank you Artanis and Silkygoose.com. I feel like this is a belated birthday gift too me. =)
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 08:14:07
August 20 2014 08:12 GMT
#32
Why not broadcast the micro tournament? It's usually great fun!
Michael Probu
bypLy
Profile Joined June 2013
757 Posts
August 20 2014 08:39 GMT
#33
wow this is nice very nice
DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
August 20 2014 11:02 GMT
#34
This'll be hilarious, and yes please someone stream the microtournament, I think that will be great in its own right.

Also LANCER #1

other than that I hope Bonyth joins in for the active players
Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 20 2014 15:01 GMT
#35
On August 20 2014 17:12 juvenal wrote:
Why not broadcast the micro tournament? It's usually great fun!

Players should feel free to, but I want to leave all 8 slots open to players.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-21 20:56:57
August 20 2014 21:30 GMT
#36
Newschool lineup

  • sas.ZaraKi
  • LancerX
  • sas.Sziky
  • Marwin
  • Bonyth[PaiN]
  • LRM)INF3CTED
  • ZZZero
  • trutaCz
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5758 Posts
August 20 2014 22:54 GMT
#37
way too many zergs yo!
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
August 21 2014 01:51 GMT
#38
There are hardly any top foreigner terrans. Scan doesn't count since he's basically Korean.
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
August 21 2014 03:08 GMT
#39
no lancerx T_T
ace hwaiting!!
castleeMg
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada789 Posts
August 21 2014 04:56 GMT
#40
add lancer !!
AKA: castle[eMg]@USEast/ iCCup
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
August 21 2014 04:58 GMT
#41
On August 21 2014 10:51 deathgod6 wrote:
There are hardly any top foreigner terrans. Scan doesn't count since he's basically Korean.

Not just basically, he is Korean.
En Taro Violet
dOTY
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany483 Posts
August 21 2014 06:50 GMT
#42
can I play?
It’s cool to cry, don’t ever question your strength .
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 21 2014 13:19 GMT
#43
Sorry dOTY, but the team is full. You can be put in the replacement list if you want.
DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
August 21 2014 15:21 GMT
#44
#free LANCER


Also too bad Bizzy isn't active at the moment
Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2610 Posts
August 21 2014 15:45 GMT
#45
Well with Sziky, eOn, Marwin and trutaCz the chances of the oldschool players shrinks dramatically. Doesnt really need Bizzy nor Scan. Will be onesided anyways..
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 21 2014 15:48 GMT
#46
On August 22 2014 00:45 chrisolo wrote:
Well with Sziky, eOn, Marwin and trutaCz the chances of the oldschool players shrinks dramatically. Doesnt really need Bizzy nor Scan. Will be onesided anyways..

If it turns out the skill gap is far too large, handicaps will start to be introduced. Creativity is encouraged.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 21 2014 18:41 GMT
#47
This map will be used for the Micro Tournament seeding round. Make sure to pick the 1-15 Lain option as some of the added levels later on are pretty dumb.
rich-
Profile Joined February 2008
United States144 Posts
August 21 2014 19:40 GMT
#48
You're streaming the micro tourney right?
What's the prize pool up to?
I just donated $15, awesome tournament.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 21 2014 19:45 GMT
#49
On August 22 2014 04:40 rich- wrote:
You're streaming the micro tourney right?

I can't, all 8 spots will be used by players to determine seeding. If any of them wants to stream it though, they're welcome to.
What's the prize pool up to?
I just donated $15, awesome tournament.

For this specific event, it's still €50. The prize pool for the Reunion Tournament is €630 total.
Do you want your $15 to go to the prize pool for this event or for the Reunion Tournament?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 21 2014 20:57 GMT
#50
Eonzerg withdraws and makes place for LancerX.
rich-
Profile Joined February 2008
United States144 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-21 22:19:25
August 21 2014 22:19 GMT
#51
Put it towards the KOTH, seems the other tourney is already funded well enough.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
August 22 2014 04:25 GMT
#52
I don't think all the players will get a chance to play with this format. Good luck to whoever gets bottom on their respective lists
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1743 Posts
August 22 2014 11:29 GMT
#53
Can u add me im on a terrific 2/0 winstreak on fish
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
August 22 2014 21:52 GMT
#54
On August 21 2014 13:58 Stratos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 10:51 deathgod6 wrote:
There are hardly any top foreigner terrans. Scan doesn't count since he's basically Korean.

Not just basically, he is Korean.

Yeah but I've seen TL articles/recaps calling him half-korean or whatever since he basically grew up in the US or something along those lines. I know he's full Korean ethnicity but I suppose the question is in the nationality. After all, he was allowed to participate in TSL, a non-Korean tournament, before he was caught ladder abusing.
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1605 Posts
August 23 2014 00:13 GMT
#55
On August 23 2014 06:52 deathgod6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 13:58 Stratos wrote:
On August 21 2014 10:51 deathgod6 wrote:
There are hardly any top foreigner terrans. Scan doesn't count since he's basically Korean.

Not just basically, he is Korean.

Yeah but I've seen TL articles/recaps calling him half-korean or whatever since he basically grew up in the US or something along those lines. I know he's full Korean ethnicity but I suppose the question is in the nationality. After all, he was allowed to participate in TSL, a non-Korean tournament, before he was caught ladder abusing.

So were a lot of Koreans living in the US. It's only a problem now that scan is too good. Sad...
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-23 00:23:24
August 23 2014 00:23 GMT
#56
easier to ban him than practice
ace hwaiting!!
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
August 23 2014 04:37 GMT
#57
Who says it's a problem? I'm just quoting him, basically korean or half-korean sounds a bit like an insult. Personally I've always been for allowing Koreans in foreigner tours, I'm just not vocal about it, they're not my tours after all.
En Taro Violet
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1605 Posts
August 23 2014 04:56 GMT
#58
Banning scan for being good would be like banning idra because he was in Korea on CJ Entus.
BulgarianToss
Profile Joined May 2011
Bulgaria495 Posts
August 23 2014 09:26 GMT
#59
I am playing 1v1 since 2008 so I think I am perfect example of a new school player, not to mention I broke into higher ranks after 2010(when sc2 was introduced). I would gladly join the list if there is room, this is going to be good and thanks artanis!
music is the best thing in the world
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
August 24 2014 02:48 GMT
#60
Who are the oldschool players? I don't see a roster yet.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
August 24 2014 14:21 GMT
#61
Interviewed some of the newschool players: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/465510-interviews-newschool-is-ready

Fun read imo
En Taro Violet
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1981 Posts
August 24 2014 14:48 GMT
#62
Inactive oldschool players vs active newschoolers? I guess that will be onesided
Total Annihilation Zero
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
August 24 2014 16:06 GMT
#63
Well, the micro tour results should've been inverted lol with sziky playing the last.
Michael Probu
iamcasey
Profile Joined January 2014
Norway202 Posts
August 24 2014 16:37 GMT
#64
Where can i see lineup ?
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-24 17:09:12
August 24 2014 17:09 GMT
#65
On August 25 2014 01:37 iamcasey wrote:
Where can i see lineup ?

It was Sziky to start for new school against the likes of ClouD, PredY, TT1 and Fosken. Others were trutacz and marwin I believe. Infested too as well (interview has all new school players).
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
August 24 2014 17:37 GMT
#66
Well, it was to be expected...
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Mewka
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland1458 Posts
August 24 2014 17:49 GMT
#67
Sziky vs rest of the world ;
Mewka, Mewka[AoV], Fox.Mewka, Mewman
crystalcrystal1243
Profile Joined September 2014
United States1 Post
September 03 2014 16:39 GMT
#68
--- Nuked ---
Artunit
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Philippines400 Posts
September 03 2014 17:25 GMT
#69
Bonyth vs PredY pls!
NrT.Artunit
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