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linyu)wufan18
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Texas
Germany2388 Posts
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myst[a]
France130 Posts
hop we will have the other soon =) | ||
SSL
Malaysia5 Posts
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superjoppe
Sweden3682 Posts
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GeLaar
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zir_green
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linyu)wufan18
1198 Posts
On October 22 2006 05:04 SSL wrote: owcg havant post out yet-.- There are so many W3 reps out,why can't upload sc reps? w3 > sc? | ||
Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On October 22 2006 05:25 linyu)wufan18 wrote: [removed quote within quote] There are so many W3 reps out,why can't upload sc reps? w3 > sc? No, other way around. WC3 is too simple for players to gain a noticable advantage over studying replays. | ||
linyu)wufan18
1198 Posts
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On October 22 2006 05:28 linyu)wufan18 wrote: Since sandlot,GG.Net often upload reps before Blizzard,so what? I dont really care. Steal replays all you want. That's what makes you special^_^ | ||
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
I can't access that site. | ||
linyu)wufan18
1198 Posts
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On October 22 2006 05:31 linyu)wufan18 wrote: Now WCG StarCraft is over,so I don't think upload rep before wcg is wrong,it's some admin's personal idear. No, has nothing to do with Mazor:D, since they when you dl reps of WCG website there are advertisements there. So there is actually a reason. edit: not saying that youre wrong or anything. | ||
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Xeofreestyler
Belgium6766 Posts
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LG)Sabbath
Argentina3022 Posts
On October 22 2006 05:34 Sfydjklm wrote: [removed quote within quote] No, has nothing to do with Mazor:D, since they when you dl reps of WCG website there are advertisements there. So there is actually a reason. edit: not saying that youre wrong or anything. thats a retarded reason though ![]() | ||
LG)Sabbath
Argentina3022 Posts
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linyu)wufan18
1198 Posts
On October 22 2006 05:34 Sfydjklm wrote: [removed quote within quote] No, has nothing to do with Mazor:D, since they when you dl reps of WCG website there are advertisements there. So there is actually a reason. edit: not saying that youre wrong or anything. if they want make money from advertisements,they shouldnt use wtv live W3 tournament. | ||
hixhix
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linyu)wufan18
1198 Posts
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LG)Sabbath
Argentina3022 Posts
On October 22 2006 05:46 hixhix wrote: can anyone upload somewhere else, I cant access sc.replays.net for some reason ![]() http://download.yousendit.com/7F7E3DBB7CD996CB | ||
Forst.
95 Posts
http://rapidshare.com/files/237549/wcg2006_preReplays.rar | ||
InKline_PL
52 Posts
Here ya go from my ftp. | ||
Texas
Germany2388 Posts
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linyu)wufan18
1198 Posts
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Konni
Germany3044 Posts
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ImaRushYaII
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Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
On October 22 2006 06:28 linyu)wufan18 wrote: If I was WCG StarCraft admin,I promise all of u can see reps asap,lol. Thats why you never will be there, beeing able to respect and follow the rules is the request for beeing admin , not who is best dicksucker. They would not ask anyone if they like it or not | ||
Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
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mrdx
Vietnam1555 Posts
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linyu)wufan18
1198 Posts
On October 22 2006 07:28 Ilvy wrote: [removed quote within quote] Thats why you never will be there, beeing able to respect and follow the rules is the request for beeing admin , not who is best dicksucker. They would not ask anyone if they like it or not Because of you admins good work now we still can't see WCG Final reps,but WarCraft III,they broadcast so many game by wtv for fans. And I didin't see any rule on WCG site said rep can't be upload until WCG site upload it. | ||
africanboy
Korea (South)453 Posts
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nArAnjO
Peru2571 Posts
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LibertyTerran
Vietnam711 Posts
On October 22 2006 07:28 Ilvy wrote: [removed quote within quote] Thats why you never will be there, beeing able to respect and follow the rules is the request for beeing admin , not who is best dicksucker. They would not ask anyone if they like it or not Just stfu ... | ||
Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
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Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
On October 22 2006 07:40 linyu)wufan18 wrote: [removed quote within quote] Because of you admins good work now we still can't see WCG Final reps,but WarCraft III,they broadcast so many game by wtv for fans. And I didin't see any rule on WCG site said rep can't be upload until WCG site upload it. The gamers computer where not connected to internet, player got their rules before playday one and two. One of the rules where not to dl replays on any device and not even watch them together with other players in intern lan. This rules where made by WCG Headquater since they own them, the reason for it you know i guess. | ||
Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
On October 22 2006 08:09 LibertyTerran wrote: [removed quote within quote] Just stfu ... Got a prob? | ||
Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
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linyu)wufan18
1198 Posts
On October 22 2006 08:27 Ilvy wrote: [removed quote within quote] the reason for it you know I don't know. | ||
Olmer
Poland320 Posts
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Myxomatosis
United States2392 Posts
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linyu)wufan18
1198 Posts
On October 22 2006 08:43 Olmer wrote: I don't think you'll get your question answered - the reason for this you should know ![]() I think our great admins can copy reps then go to Meida Arena to upload them for us,there had good internet. | ||
linyu)wufan18
1198 Posts
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Myxomatosis
United States2392 Posts
On October 22 2006 08:56 linyu)wufan18 wrote: We will see how many reps will be lost this year. none, hopefully. last years pack was like 95% complete | ||
haduken
Australia8267 Posts
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
The decision to upload the replays after WCG was probably because of the players' discretion to hide their strategies for later in the tournament. | ||
Forst.
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linyu)wufan18
1198 Posts
On October 22 2006 08:57 Myxomatosis wrote: [removed quote within quote] none, hopefully. last years pack was like 95% complete Why not did 100%? | ||
Olmer
Poland320 Posts
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nArAnjO
Peru2571 Posts
On October 22 2006 09:00 Twisted wrote: You people all have no clue what you're talking about. It's WCG's discretion to upload these replays whenever they please. If that's AFTER WCG, it's after WCG. At least they release the replays, stop whining you bunch of motherfuckers. I don't see Korean tournaments releasing replays. The decision to upload the replays after WCG was probably because of the players' discretion to hide their strategies for later in the tournament. wcg is over already if u didn't know tho ![]() | ||
Myxomatosis
United States2392 Posts
On October 22 2006 09:00 Twisted wrote: You people all have no clue what you're talking about. It's WCG's discretion to upload these replays whenever they please. If that's AFTER WCG, it's after WCG. At least they release the replays, stop whining you bunch of motherfuckers. I don't see Korean tournaments releasing replays. The decision to upload the replays after WCG was probably because of the players' discretion to hide their strategies for later in the tournament. Yes, but it's after WCG and gg.net claimed that the WCG admin they spoke to said the replays would be released today, so im anxiously waiting along w/ everyone else. | ||
zergc1
Zimbabwe961 Posts
The fact is we had to use chinese programs to watch the video stream because WCG.com stream were terrible: laggy stream, laggy website etc... and gg.net provide us all informations/interviews/live report etc... not wcg.com. The small amount of vods on the wcg website has no commentary...ggl.com (wcg partner?) gave us only 4 vods from the entire event... Now its sc.replays.net who provide us replays because once again wcg crew failed to his "duty". i mean what the wcg crew is doing? hard work? i cant believe it... Last years it was exactly the same. Imo WCG has a serious organisation problem and disapoint the audience year after year. Its a fact. | ||
haduken
Australia8267 Posts
for us geeks, this is the best we can get. | ||
zergc1
Zimbabwe961 Posts
What i said is maybe rude but its only because they disapointed me each years. | ||
LeeJoonKee
Canada15 Posts
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8882
2718 Posts
why didnt you tell them, that releasing the replays later is bad marketing? oh, it would make you do some work actually.. On October 22 2006 07:28 Ilvy wrote: [removed quote within quote] Thats why you never will be there, beeing able to respect and follow the rules is the request for beeing admin , not who is best dicksucker. They would not ask anyone if they like it or not create dumb rules, which allow you to be lazy and then claim to respect them There were like 7-8 referees/judges from different countries, who went to the wcg. What did you do? Im really curious. I think 1 could upload the replays, 2 do the shoutcasts. 2 be the judges. 3 still would be left for additional work ps. Ilvy werent you the admin, who was known of rigging games in wgtour nations league? | ||
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Sweden1282 Posts
<3 wufan! thank you very much! | ||
BinGBonG[gamei]
Netherlands514 Posts
All the other years i didnt have problems with this so i hope it wil be better next year. | ||
Mickey
United States2606 Posts
On October 22 2006 07:28 Ilvy wrote: [removed quote within quote] Thats why you never will be there, beeing able to respect and follow the rules is the request for beeing admin , not who is best dicksucker. They would not ask anyone if they like it or not Jesus you're always badtalking someone. Take it easy. Wufan is doing us THE MASSES a favor. | ||
IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On October 22 2006 09:00 Twisted wrote: You people all have no clue what you're talking about. It's WCG's discretion to upload these replays whenever they please. If that's AFTER WCG, it's after WCG. At least they release the replays, stop whining you bunch of motherfuckers. I don't see Korean tournaments releasing replays. The decision to upload the replays after WCG was probably because of the players' discretion to hide their strategies for later in the tournament. didnt they officially say the reps would be released today (like 5-6 hours ago)? even though theres no real reason to withhold the reps at all it is really really gay not to release them when they said they would. | ||
ArnC
United States15 Posts
On October 22 2006 10:19 zergc1 wrote: wcg pretend to be a professional event u know? What i said is maybe rude but its only because they disapointed me each years. be quiet and think about how bad it would be compared to now if there wasn't a wcg. stop complaining you'll get your replays sooner or later ;; | ||
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
It's the same as with all that Blizzard does for us, you're all spoiled brats that could learn some patience. | ||
IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On October 22 2006 11:42 ArnC wrote: [removed quote within quote] be quiet and think about how bad it would be compared to now if there wasn't a wcg. stop complaining you'll get your replays sooner or later ;; it wouldnt be bad at all because you wouldnt expect any replays. as it is the replays are there and they have promised to release them, and they didnt. | ||
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On October 22 2006 11:42 ArnC wrote: [removed quote within quote] be quiet and think about how bad it would be compared to now if there wasn't a wcg. stop complaining you'll get your replays sooner or later ;; haha, yeah, ICM is doing us a favor by hosting WCG! LOL. Think. | ||
Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On October 22 2006 12:00 Drowsy wrote: Wufan these games were totally not worth the drama. If you're going to break the rules and upload replays from wcg a few hours early, at LEAST make sure they're decent games. These games just plainly sucked. It seems like you did it just to piss people off. STFU. | ||
zergc1
Zimbabwe961 Posts
"spoiled brats" "he's a fucking idiot" etc.. is it your admin status which give you the right to insult us? Every post you made is full insults and disrespect. | ||
ArnC
United States15 Posts
On October 22 2006 12:00 Drowsy wrote: Wufan these games were totally not worth the drama. If you're going to break the rules and upload replays from wcg a few hours early, at LEAST make sure they're decent games. These games just plainly sucked. It seems like you did it just to piss people off. the games didn't suck ;; the lx vs moonzerg on PA was art | ||
Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
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Olmer
Poland320 Posts
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On October 22 2006 12:06 Olmer wrote: Can't you understand that there are no rules against posting those replays today? It's just laziness of admins! Wc3 reps are all out so there's NO excuses. And GJ Wufan :D WC3, CS, Q4, basically everything is already out. | ||
zergc1
Zimbabwe961 Posts
On October 22 2006 12:05 Sfydjklm wrote: People fail to comprehend that we dont owe WCG anything, wufan doesnt own WCG anything. WCG owes us the entertainment. 100% agree | ||
nArAnjO
Peru2571 Posts
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cravy
United States525 Posts
On October 22 2006 12:02 zergc1 wrote: "you bunch of motherfuckers" "spoiled brats" "he's a fucking idiot" etc.. is it your admin status which give you the right to insult us? Every post you made is full insults and disrespect. Was about to post the same thing. | ||
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
On October 22 2006 12:02 zergc1 wrote: "you bunch of motherfuckers" "spoiled brats" "he's a fucking idiot" etc.. is it your admin status which give you the right to insult us? Every post you made is full insults and disrespect. That's because you don't realise how wrong you are and it makes me quite angry how you all praise Wufan for stealing replays from the organisation when it's clearly stated that replays should NOT be stolen. I've participated in WCG in 2004, and the referees clearly stated that you can't save the replays yourself, neither can you actually alttab in windows to watch some websites or w/e or post results. WCG wants hits on their website, so they want the replays downloaded on their website, they also want the news about the matches to be read on their website. The WCG organisation tries to run shit in a professional way. The uploading of the replays takes a whole lot of organisation and time as well, and they just finished with the tournament. When they make those rules people should follow them and some Chinese players shouldn't disregard rules just by blaming it on the language barrier. They didn't have access to the internet, so they actually used USB-sticks so they intentionally stole those replays which are property of WCG to release on their own discretion. You people praising Wufan are just people who don't seem to realise this, and they see Wufan as their savior. When someone in charge such as Ilvy complains about this in this topic all you kids jump on the bandwagon by going against Ilvy (I'm pretty sure she was a referee there, not 100% sure). | ||
Olmer
Poland320 Posts
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fig_newbie
749 Posts
whatever useless rant, I agree 100% w/ twisted | ||
linyu)wufan18
1198 Posts
On October 22 2006 12:11 Twisted wrote: [removed quote within quote] WCG wants hits on their website, so they want the replays downloaded on their website, they also want the news about the matches to be read on their website. . So they should do better next time. | ||
CruiseR
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Poland4014 Posts
some of them are just uploaded at netwars.pl (including draco vs oov ^^) | ||
CruiseR
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Poland4014 Posts
HAVE FUN WITH ALL REPS :D | ||
ArnC
United States15 Posts
On October 22 2006 12:36 linyu)wufan18 wrote: [removed quote within quote] So they should do better next time. thats your justification for stealing? | ||
linyu)wufan18
1198 Posts
On October 22 2006 12:41 ArnC wrote: [removed quote within quote] thats your justification for stealing? The admin did really good job,please tell me where can I download Draco vs iloveoov on Gaia,lol | ||
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
On October 22 2006 12:25 Olmer wrote: So what do all those referees do? They have the trip, they obs the games, they're having all the fun for being there - where's the actual JOB they're doing? Explain to me why all other games had good coverage, and now all the vods and replays are out - but NOT here? W3 had twice the amount of groups, and the whole round of 32 and everything was managed well. So if you want me to stop yelling - then explain, k? I'm pretty sure the referees pay their trip themselves. | ||
PoP
France15446 Posts
On October 22 2006 12:41 CruiseR wrote: DIRECTLINK : http://www.worldcybergames.com/5th/replay/replay.asp HAVE FUN WITH ALL REPS :D Their script is buggy. :/ Every "game 2" links to the game 1 of the corresponding series. Like for example for Midas vs July, both the first and the second icons point to the first game (although the second game is available). Also, some replays are lacking, like the finals. Anyway, that's better than nothing I guess. | ||
Konni
Germany3044 Posts
oov - july is missing and lx-oov seems like game 2 is the same as game 1 [edit] oh damn. pop is right | ||
CoralReefer
Canada2069 Posts
On October 22 2006 13:01 PoP wrote: [removed quote within quote] Their script is buggy. :/ Every "game 2" links to the game 1 of the corresponding series. Like for example for Midas vs July, both the first and the second icons point to the first game (although the second game is available). Also, some replays are lacking, like the finals. Anyway, that's better than nothing I guess. you can get around it, since i guess they still have all the files uploaded just copy paste the location and change "2-1@pnzlegend@midas[gm].rep" to "2-2@pnzlegend@midas[gm].rep" | ||
ParasitJonte
Sweden1768 Posts
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LG)Sabbath
Argentina3022 Posts
On October 22 2006 12:11 Twisted wrote: [removed quote within quote] That's because you don't realise how wrong you are and it makes me quite angry how you all praise Wufan for stealing replays from the organisation when it's clearly stated that replays should NOT be stolen. I've participated in WCG in 2004, and the referees clearly stated that you can't save the replays yourself, neither can you actually alttab in windows to watch some websites or w/e or post results. WCG wants hits on their website, so they want the replays downloaded on their website, they also want the news about the matches to be read on their website. The WCG organisation tries to run shit in a professional way. The uploading of the replays takes a whole lot of organisation and time as well, and they just finished with the tournament. When they make those rules people should follow them and some Chinese players shouldn't disregard rules just by blaming it on the language barrier. They didn't have access to the internet, so they actually used USB-sticks so they intentionally stole those replays which are property of WCG to release on their own discretion. You people praising Wufan are just people who don't seem to realise this, and they see Wufan as their savior. When someone in charge such as Ilvy complains about this in this topic all you kids jump on the bandwagon by going against Ilvy (I'm pretty sure she was a referee there, not 100% sure). you cant possibly pull that argument considering this site has a bittorrent tracker which is full of illegal material which ongamenet should be getting paid for, kind of a contradiction most players dont mind their reps being released, and any wcg ref saying wcg owns the replays is just sucking up to the corporation for no reason other than to keep their position. what the hell is the argument supporting the view that wcg owns the reps anyway? | ||
PoP
France15446 Posts
On October 22 2006 13:12 ml1710 wrote: [removed quote within quote] you can get around it, Yeah I know. This said, Lx vs Zelotito game 2, for example, seems unavailable. And lots of group games are missing, it seems. ![]() | ||
Mickey
United States2606 Posts
Which might me in 1 hour? >.< | ||
PoP
France15446 Posts
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NuclearAntelope
United States1369 Posts
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krk
United Kingdom17 Posts
The missing games were because the links were inaccurate, the games are actually there. I was going to do the group stages, but I got bored >>. [EDIT: Nevermind, did not notice that OOv and July was not up yet. Besides, it looks like somebody went through all the group stages now. I was doing it, but so many of the links are broken ;;] | ||
CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
![]() Edit: also, when you're done with it, don't forget to update the "[WCG] All the links" thread, to make it easier for the others. (if you need any help post here I'm refreshing constantly ^_^) | ||
jtan
Sweden5891 Posts
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PoP
France15446 Posts
I'm using µTorrent and it's the first time I create a torrent using it, so sorry if it doesn't work immediately. :o edit: k seems it's working. | ||
CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
Did I say I love you yet? Cuz I do. ![]() Edit: Ok others have jumped on it and choked my speed. DAMN YOU TL.NETTERS!!! | ||
CruiseR
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Poland4014 Posts
123 replays ;o | ||
Elsi
United Kingdom8173 Posts
wanna download them all! | ||
PoP
France15446 Posts
Hmm, looks like there's one missing in the torrent then. -_- | ||
Forst.
95 Posts
http://rapidshare.com/files/285415/wcg2006.rar and here the missing finals: http://rapidshare.com/files/287219/wcg2006-finals.tar.gz | ||
Cadical
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United States469 Posts
8-1@PNZLEGEND@ZelotITO_die and 8-2@PNZLEGEND@ZelotITO_die are duplicates. I couldn't get the second game. | ||
AstraBoy
Peru363 Posts
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TT1_banned
Canada1206 Posts
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Cadical
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United States469 Posts
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ParasitJonte
Sweden1768 Posts
On October 22 2006 13:13 Sabbath wrote: [removed quote within quote] you cant possibly pull that argument considering this site has a bittorrent tracker which is full of illegal material which ongamenet should be getting paid for, kind of a contradiction most players dont mind their reps being released, and any wcg ref saying wcg owns the replays is just sucking up to the corporation for no reason other than to keep their position. what the hell is the argument supporting the view that wcg owns the reps anyway? That depends... Different countries have different laws. Exactly where are the files stored? There may be nothing illegal with the tracker. If it were stationed in Sweden, I know for a fact that there would be nothing illegal with it ;o. | ||
jtan
Sweden5891 Posts
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Wasabi
United States3085 Posts
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0z
Luxembourg877 Posts
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starofNC
United States1340 Posts
thanks a lot wufan my brother and good games all around to everyone. wonderful tournament thanks cruiser for packing those reps and to the other guy for adding the finals ones~ Hey Twisted and Ilvy... smile ![]() and anyway just as you said... if its only one day, whats the difference? *cheers* | ||
fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On October 22 2006 13:57 ParasitJonte wrote: [removed quote within quote] That depends... Different countries have different laws. Exactly where are the files stored? There may be nothing illegal with the tracker. If it were stationed in Sweden, I know for a fact that there would be nothing illegal with it ;o. Had to retype this because the wcg website managed to crash my browser. Thats not really the arguement being used. If a person downloads from the tracker, then they arent watching the korean stations, they arent visiting the ongamenet website, and those places arent selling ads (This is unrealistic because a majority of people who visit this site dont live in korea, and would just watch it on tv if they could). If a person downloads the wcg replays from an outside source, then they dont visit the wcg website, and wcg doesnt get to sell as many ads (unrealistic again, because the vods/replays are released late, the website lags horribly, it replays music on every page load, it has almost no sc related news (I'm saying almost no because the only news I could find mentioned starcraft maybe once in a page full of pr), is poorly organized - especially when contrasted to the other games shown at wcg, had a video stream that was pretty much unusable (despite waking up at rediculous hours, I still have not been able to watch it live from the wcg website), has a poor site navigation that makes it difficult for the user to find what he wants, seemed that wcg placed less importance on sc than it did for the other games). Its actually harder for a person to find an outside source. People will want to visit the wcg website, because it is official, and its pretty obvious to find. There has to be some major issues, for a majority of people to visit another site. There were some very good things, such as the casting that went on with wcg. But the website needs to be better designed ( easier to navigate, better organization, able to handle the number of visitors it is receiving), the wcg staff needs to communicate more with the sc community, and it needs a more straightforward, professional aproach, at least in the sc department. I dont even know why I have posted this, some people seem set in their ways, and I dont have a good faith belief that anything will change no matter what some members of the community point out. Im still a little tired from little sleep, because I was trying to follow what was going on with wcg. I did like the brackets on the website though, and visited it few enough times, that the constantly refreshing music wasnt annoying. It was well designed, easy to read, and easy to get to from the front page. | ||
radar14
United States1437 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
that woudl suck ass, supposed to be good games. | ||
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32269 Posts
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linyu)wufan18
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linyu)wufan18
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TT1_banned
Canada1206 Posts
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Wasabi
United States3085 Posts
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SCNewb
Canada2210 Posts
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ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
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starofNC
United States1340 Posts
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PoP
France15446 Posts
Oh and I've just watched a few reps so far and... damn, July vs Phoenix game 2, that was... poor Phoenix. -_- | ||
sCV
Jamaica246 Posts
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Myxomatosis
United States2392 Posts
eh draco's win vs. oov wasn't impressive. cool micro though. | ||
Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
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africanboy
Korea (South)453 Posts
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SayGG
Germany676 Posts
On October 22 2006 15:41 Myxomatosis wrote: eh draco's win vs. oov wasn't impressive. cool micro though. Nice to see how oov was desperatly trying to micro his marines. He was totally occupied with that. He was focusing so much on it, that in the end there are 9 SCV's at the rally point of his CC, waiting for a gather command. | ||
Konni
Germany3044 Posts
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Painbringer
Norway446 Posts
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puLs.ReADy
Bulgaria1301 Posts
About the games i watched ...hmmmmm I am not really impressed from midas tvz or july zvt... I liked draco vs oov both games also draco vs midas was great and Zelotito vs reason was really funny ![]() | ||
jtan
Sweden5891 Posts
On October 22 2006 16:35 Painbringer wrote: can anyone recomend me some good replays, I saw the draco-midas one, really good. Zelotito - Reason is just lol. You gott see it | ||
Myxomatosis
United States2392 Posts
666 NOTB IRON MAIDEN 4EVER | ||
Painbringer
Norway446 Posts
On October 22 2006 16:53 jtan wrote: [removed quote within quote] Zelotito - Reason is just lol. You gott see it hahaha I wonder what reason thought when he looked back in his base. I was kinda shocked when I wathed the replay myself. | ||
YoUr_KiLLeR
United States3420 Posts
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nArAnjO
Peru2571 Posts
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[X]Ken_D
United States4650 Posts
WCG site have sites in many different lanaguges. Stop being spoiled babies and think about it from the other perspective. | ||
fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On October 22 2006 18:46 [X]Ken_D wrote: Last time I checked, Ongamenet and MSL are only accessible to Koreans. WCG site have sites in many different lanaguges. Stop being spoiled babies and think about it from the other perspective. Doesnt matter. They were both pretty much unreachable during the event. This isnt an "OMG WCG SUX LOL" thread, so dont pretend that it is. But there were issues with the organization of wcg for this year. If wcg would like more visitors for the seattle event, maybe the issues I brought up would help them. It's kind of stupid imo to just go everything is great, when its not. WCG as a whole is great, but there are still some things which could be smoothed over. If there are only a few people with problems, then fine. But if wcg wants more visitors, they will have to address the issues of the viewers they are trying to attack. Is this clear enough for you? | ||
red.venom
United States4651 Posts
On October 22 2006 05:59 InKline_PL wrote: http://daminet.pl/~jacke23/WCGrep.zip Here ya go from my ftp. Thanks yo. - 0 -v | ||
Myxomatosis
United States2392 Posts
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USA29055 Posts
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SpringWind
China230 Posts
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Amnesty
United States2054 Posts
On October 22 2006 16:19 SayGG wrote: [removed quote within quote] Nice to see how oov was desperatly trying to micro his marines. He was totally occupied with that. He was focusing so much on it, that in the end there are 9 SCV's at the rally point of his CC, waiting for a gather command. Eh didnt see the idle SCVs either, was busy watching his ramp lol 9 of them! thats pretty poor. It takes 20 seconds to build a SCV on fastest. So thats a nice 3 minutes where he never looked at his CC. | ||
Amnesty
United States2054 Posts
On October 22 2006 21:48 {88}iNcontroL wrote: going z vs a T was extremely cocky. His best mu is TvT and he chose Z like a moron. Looks like he was trying to sandbag again. Even though in a interview he said he could'nt this year because he was too rusty. | ||
Eagleheart
Sweden776 Posts
On October 22 2006 13:13 Sabbath wrote: [removed quote within quote] you cant possibly pull that argument considering this site has a bittorrent tracker which is full of illegal material which ongamenet should be getting paid for, kind of a contradiction most players dont mind their reps being released, and any wcg ref saying wcg owns the replays is just sucking up to the corporation for no reason other than to keep their position. what the hell is the argument supporting the view that wcg owns the reps anyway? Damn right. Twisted, get off your high and mighty horses and don't talk shit about stuff like this when you guys in fact host torrents that are illegal. What makes me upset is that you always seem so fast to strike down on others, and in this case it's just ridiculous | ||
lololol
5198 Posts
On October 22 2006 22:44 Amnesty wrote: [removed quote within quote] Eh didnt see the idle SCVs either, was busy watching his ramp lol 9 of them! thats pretty poor. It takes 20 seconds to build a SCV on fastest. So thats a nice 3 minutes where he never looked at his CC. It takes 20 seconds on NORMAL game speed, on fastest it's 12 seconds, so it's less than 2 minutes total. | ||
~chut~
France1317 Posts
Wufan acting like he's some robin hood of replays, wow, such a hero, he puts the replays online 3 hours before everyone! Who's in such a hurry to watch replays really? I understand Twisted argument, it's about people going to wcg site to dl the replays. The more hits, the happier the sponspors. They paid fot it, so they want their investment to be somehow useful. | ||
polarwolf
924 Posts
Can someone give me a good link? thanks in advance | ||
TopGear
United Kingdom796 Posts
On October 23 2006 03:02 ~chut~ wrote: I can't believe people can't wait for replays for a few hours... it's not like there's much at stake, we always got replays from wcg at a point or another, just let the admins be. Wufan acting like he's some robin hood of replays, wow, such a hero, he puts the replays online 3 hours before everyone! Who's in such a hurry to watch replays really? I understand Twisted argument, it's about people going to wcg site to dl the replays. The more hits, the happier the sponspors. They paid fot it, so they want their investment to be somehow useful. Read Sabbath's post. | ||
PoP
France15446 Posts
On October 23 2006 03:32 polarwolf wrote: What is this shit? All replay packs I download have doubled replays and others missing... Can someone give me a good link? thanks in advance The one on tracker should have all of them... and yeah, some are missing (read previous posts). | ||
~chut~
France1317 Posts
The fact that TL.net has a tracker with vods has nothing to do with it, it's a completely different matter. | ||
haduken
Australia8267 Posts
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Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
On October 22 2006 08:55 linyu)wufan18 wrote: [removed quote within quote] I think our great admins can copy reps then go to Meida Arena to upload them for us,there had good internet. If playing stupid would get payed, you would be rich. It was you that stole some replays last year and uploaded them, this created a lot trouble adn made them even strikter in this. Players that look others replayes or even dowload them could get punished up to red card, same goes for referees. | ||
Kaolla
China2999 Posts
On October 23 2006 06:47 Ilvy wrote: [removed quote within quote] If playing stupid would get payed, you would be rich. It was you that stole some replays last year and uploaded them, this created a lot trouble adn made them even strikter in this. Players that look others replayes or even dowload them could get punished up to red card, same goes for referees. I personally think that if WCG wants people to respect their rules the first thing they should do is make a website that actually provides us with enough info and isnt filled for 50% with broken links... WCG has ALOT of money yet they cant make a working website or release enough info to the public? I think its WCGs fault and they did have time to release the reps... furthermore as someone mentioned why give wufan shit if TL has a tracker... | ||
Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
On October 22 2006 10:28 8882 wrote: who exactly are the "wcg headquoters"? why didnt you tell them, that releasing the replays later is bad marketing? oh, it would make you do some work actually.. [removed quote within quote]hat did you do? Im really curious. I think 1 could upload the replays, 2 do the shoutcasts. 2 be the judges. 3 still would be left for additional work ps. Ilvy werent you the admin, who was known of rigging games in wgtour nations league? persons that have no fucking clue about how things work should rather be quiet. every single replay was uploaded right after game got reported on WCG page. Results needed to be confirmed by the headquater and the replays where supposed to be available for the public right after the event was done, means the replays where there all the week. Btw since when do referees shoutcast? Nick did good job there. About the NW thing you know shit, as for the rest i guess or aren´t you the polish guy that spams every forum with endless crap? | ||
linyu)wufan18
1198 Posts
On October 23 2006 06:47 Ilvy wrote: [removed quote within quote] If playing stupid would get payed, you would be rich. It was you that stole some replays last year and uploaded them, this created a lot trouble adn made them even strikter in this. Players that look others replayes or even dowload them could get punished up to red card, same goes for referees. Because of you admins good job,we lost some important rep this years,same as last year. This regulation is not in reason. you referees should actively give your comment to committee, not just follow the order. See WarcraftIII,the referees do so many work for fans. | ||
PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
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Forst.
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its just sad, for this huge event! | ||
Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
On October 22 2006 11:38 Mickey wrote: [removed quote within quote] Jesus you're always badtalking someone. Take it easy. Wufan is doing us THE MASSES a favor. I do not badtalking him, first of all the replays he uploaded where given to a special person from china with permission from headquater, she got also from other sections, but not to upload them for the public use. Since she didn´t look like a ppl you have to mistrust, i guess these reps where uploaded intern on a chinese host where Mr. Wufan took them without permission and uploaded them. If you think you could run a event with 700 gamers and arround 60 referees where everyone does what he wants, no matter what the rules are you gonna fail badly. Players will try to cheat and abuse like always (did not happen in BW but in other games), thats why referees get clear rules for the players and for themselv to follow them, some you like and some you might dislike and think that they are useless, but still you have to follow them. | ||
linyu)wufan18
1198 Posts
On October 23 2006 07:29 Ilvy wrote: [removed quote within quote] i guess these reps where uploaded intern on a chinese host where Mr. Wufan took them without permission and uploaded them. . As u said,u only guess,lol.Are u sure? | ||
linyu)wufan18
1198 Posts
And please answer us when can we look Final game and Lx vs July Midas vs Mondragon and so on. | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
I'm really surprised what a beast draco got. As well as strategically, but also in terms of macro and micro. Really amazing. The 2nd game was more like Draco dictating oov and not the other way around. But oov is oov .. : D | ||
Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
On October 23 2006 08:18 Forst. wrote: was ilvy a wcg admin? i doubt it, so she can't know this. I was or why do you think did i answer here? | ||
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Count of Hell
Hungary7 Posts
All WCG '06 Grand Final reps of the three Korean Qualifiers: iloveoov, July and Midas except the Final match between oov and July, GG 'n Hf !!!! | ||
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Count of Hell
Hungary7 Posts
Midas, July and oov reps! ^^ GG'n HF! | ||
jtan
Sweden5891 Posts
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zir_green
291 Posts
midas vs mondragon midas vs stym 1-2 ra vs oov 1-2 lx vs zelotito raven vs ra raven vs sqall . . and much more i think more then 30 percent reps are missing | ||
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United States338 Posts
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Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
On October 23 2006 11:43 Forst. wrote: well ok ![]() The final was played on stage so the replayes where saved on the machines down there, reps got saved for sure, but i could not tell you the reason why they are not released. WCG ended yesterday evening, none is there anymore beside of the headquater and the ppl cleaning up, hope they will fix it later on at least | ||
fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On October 23 2006 07:29 Ilvy wrote: \[removed quote within quote] I do not badtalking him, first of all the replays he uploaded where given to a special person from china with permission from headquater, she got also from other sections, but not to upload them for the public use. Since she didn´t look like a ppl you have to mistrust, i guess these reps where uploaded intern on a chinese host where Mr. Wufan took them without permission and uploaded them. If you think you could run a event with 700 gamers and arround 60 referees where everyone does what he wants, no matter what the rules are you gonna fail badly. Players will try to cheat and abuse like always (did not happen in BW but in other games), thats why referees get clear rules for the players and for themselv to follow them, some you like and some you might dislike and think that they are useless, but still you have to follow them. Do you think there is anything WCG can improve upon for the next event? | ||
Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
On October 23 2006 15:24 fusionsdf wrote: [removed quote within quote]\ Do you think there is anything WCG can improve upon for the next event? The tournaments itself are doing fine, specially Broodwar had no problems at all, everyone was manner and gave his best. The location was worst ever you could choose i guess since it was like end of the world and ppl where spred over 50 km, so no way to meet the others without paying a lot of money for a cab. So choosing a eventplace with better solution for the players and athe public would be nice since i felt sry for all the ppl that used a long time to go there and where not allowed to enter the tournamentarea without a Staff- or Presscard, even not the family and friends of the players that traveled often few hours to see their guys playing. Unfortunatly, like in every big even in this class , is all based on money and sponsors, BroodWar is still the big baby of Korea and this is good so, but also the reason why the treatment is even more special. Korean´s know perfectly how to run tournaments, but they have their own rules and they expect everyone to follow them. If you want to call that sucking dicks to the head of WCG, feel free, but without the koreans and their sponsors a event like WCG would never happen. CPL is and always will be a shooterrelated event and Angel always hated BW. So pissing the koreans is not really serving the community, even if that means to wait for the replays. | ||
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Manifesto7
Osaka27131 Posts
Those people who said WCG OWES us something are retarded. What have YOU done zergc1 and Sfydjklm to be owed anything? You sit on your ass at home, complaining about the speed and manner in which things are done, when you yourself have never had to do a fucking thing to recieve this tournament. Wufan, you are a stupid fuck for stealing replays. I stuck up for you last year, but only because the incident was so poorly handled by GG.net. This year, you are a dope. Your actions hurt BW, and hurt WCG. Without following the rules, you jepordize our chances at having BW in WCG again. This goes for anyone: Just because you dont like HOW things are run, done, or handled, does not give you any right to steal it. Unless you have taken steps to contribute to WCG or the community, you have no right to complain. This community, more and more, is full of whiny fucks. You know why? Because for years commited people have put in back breaking efforts to keep this community alive, and it has spoiled the masses. People automatically assume they are entitled to the best, they preach about things they have no knowledge about, and when something goes wrong they crusify the people who have been trying. Could things have been handled better? Of course. I was mad about the replays too. But, just like the sandlot, there are rules to follow. Like them or not, it is peoples responsibility to respect them. | ||
linyu)wufan18
1198 Posts
On October 23 2006 17:48 Manifesto7 wrote: I cant believe I just read through 9 pages of garbage, but I did. Those people who said WCG OWES us something are retarded. What have YOU done zergc1 and Sfydjklm to be owed anything? You sit on your ass at home, complaining about the speed and manner in which things are done, when you yourself have never had to do a fucking thing to recieve this tournament. Wufan, you are a stupid fuck for stealing replays. I stuck up for you last year, but only because the incident was so poorly handled by GG.net. This year, you are a dope. Your actions hurt BW, and hurt WCG. Without following the rules, you jepordize our chances at having BW in WCG again. This goes for anyone: Just because you dont like HOW things are run, done, or handled, does not give you any right to steal it. Unless you have taken steps to contribute to WCG or the community, you have no right to complain. This community, more and more, is full of whiny fucks. You know why? Because for years commited people have put in back breaking efforts to keep this community alive, and it has spoiled the masses. People automatically assume they are entitled to the best, they preach about things they have no knowledge about, and when something goes wrong they crusify the people who have been trying. Could things have been handled better? Of course. I was mad about the replays too. But, just like the sandlot, there are rules to follow. Like them or not, it is peoples responsibility to respect them. I can tell u one of the staff gave me the reps and said u can upload them, just before StarCraft Final,the last day in WCG,i don't think they uploaded these few replays, which will give bad impact on WCG. And please answer us when can we look Final game and Lx vs July Midas vs Mondragon and so on. Hurt BW?Hurt WCG? so funy! such a big tournament is hurt by upload 6 reps after Final game. | ||
linyu)wufan18
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starofNC
United States1340 Posts
Mani is right WCG definitely doesn't owe anything to anyone, other than to their sponsors. But on the other hand Manifesto7 would you say that we owe something to WCG? I think you probably would say yes to this, and i'd have to disagree if that was the case... I don't think just because a group of committed individuals puts their time and effort into something they should be instantly declared out-of-bounds to all criticism, and infallible when it comes to their decision making and management. WCG has proven every year that they are incapable of releasing a timely and complete pack of the events replays. I think this in part leads people to want to take charge and get the replays they want for themselves. Maybe if WCG were more reliable in this way it wouldn't be a recurring problem? And it's not just an issue with starcraft either, demos and replay files tend to find their way out in most games. It's being blown way out of proportion. Just because of a few replays accusations start flying about how the wcg is in danger of being dragged through the mud and that its putting at risk some of the work of the wcg? Come on.. be realistic.. in the grand scope of things it really doesn't hurt anyone. You need to look at it comparatively like wufan is saying.. why be so critical about this, and it really was just a very small group of replays that were being circulated. The fact that you have people paying close attention to wcg's event on websites with discussion and coverage serves to help make the wcg a stronger event. And if a few replays get leaked then so what, thats the price you pay. Replays and demos are always being released ahead of time and WCG doesn't seem to be being damaged that badly. How many people just end up waiting anyway, and download the replays in zip or rar files that people mirror and post the link in a thread. Who the hell would go through meticulously downloading each replay when links to mirrored packs of files is allowed to sit in these threads. Are we then also guilty of stealing those hits and traffic from wcg's website by allowing people to post their pack of replays directly here, when normally each person would have had to go to their main wcg site to download each rep individually? Did anyone get written permission from wcg to host a pack of their replays on TL's bit torrent tracker? I highly doubt it, but I don't think that it should be necessary anyway. Bottom line is that the whole argument of stealing bandwidth or potential visitors from their site when u look at it in the relative terms of amount of replays leaked versus total amount of replays, and in potential traffic diverted versus total amount of traffic, is pretty weak. Oh and I guess Ilvy should be the only one allowed to comment in this thread because 'people that have no fucking clue about how things work should just stay quiet'? Turn that frown upside down and smile.. I know its an issue thats been brought up before but rightfully so. If people disagree with a policy as stated by some administrators of course they are going to do what they want sooner or later. So stop feeling disrespected just because people disagree and do what they want. And wow.. if as it turns out an admin also gave wufan the go-ahead to post them as long as it's on or around the time of the final on the last day...? Why is this even in question. I think people should get off the same soapbox they were preaching on last year while crucifying wufan and just realise that their argument is tired and dried up. | ||
zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
To the people who complain about everything bw related, wgt, wcg, sandlot: express your opinions in a more respectful manner. the people who run the events, as previously mentioned, mostly do it out of love and goodwill, they do not deserve a lot of the retarded flames dished out by the people here. To the people who think no one has the right to complain because we don't put in any work. You are wrong. All of us here is apart of the starcraft community, We have all, either by playing the game, following the progaming scene, watching replays, vods, inputting feedback, visiting teamliquid, basically caring, by doing any of that we are keeping the community alive. And for that all of us who care enough deserve a say in issues such as this no matter how retarded the comments are (there have been many). When blizzard promised wgt and then did little to follow up on it. We have the right to complain, just not repeatedly over twenty pages with idra flaming Ilvy flaming idra flaming skew flaming IIvy. Basically... everyone on both sides please be more respectful, we're part of the same boat. We all want to keep starcraft alive. Not worth it getting riled up over imo the more pettier issues such as this. Let's just all enjoy the progamer replays we get from this and look forward to a bigger and better wcg next year. | ||
Sky101
United States1758 Posts
On October 23 2006 18:10 linyu)wufan18 wrote: [removed quote within quote] Hurt BW?Hurt WCG? so funy! such a big tournament is hurt by upload 6 reps after Final game. You obviously are very short-sighted, no further comment. | ||
dnaxmen
Australia124 Posts
Wufan: you know what, all u need to do is SHUT THE Fuc k UP. i don't care if it's legal for uploading those replays prior to WCG. such waste time arguing with bunch of kids here, which does make you more sounds like a whiney fucker. you do the things in your way, ppl will talk. if u don't like it, go somewhere else to practice ur english. | ||
cravy
United States525 Posts
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CoralReefer
Canada2069 Posts
On October 24 2006 23:40 dnaxmen wrote: Manifesto7 : partially, i agree with u about rules, rights, respect, kinda stuff. But man, i just don't like the way you talking. you r definitely the one sit your ass in front of comp, and complaining this and that. if wuhan actually did sth wrong, he will be fucked. u don't need to worry this, dude. Wufan: you know what, all u need to do is SHUT THE Fuc k UP. i don't care if it's legal for uploading those replays prior to WCG. such waste time arguing with bunch of kids here, which does make you more sounds like a whiney fucker. you do the things in your way, ppl will talk. if u don't like it, go somewhere else to practice ur english. using my psychic powers of premonition, i predict someone will be banned sometime in the future. but who? O_O | ||
CoralReefer
Canada2069 Posts
On October 23 2006 20:10 zulu_nation8 wrote: To the people who think no one has the right to complain because we don't put in any work. You are wrong. All of us here is apart of the starcraft community, We have all, either by playing the game, following the progaming scene, watching replays, vods, inputting feedback, visiting teamliquid, basically caring, by doing any of that we are keeping the community alive. .... i agree. i'm not saying we shouldn't be grateful for such a great event, but remember that WCG is able to exist because we have huge gaming companies sponsoring it (e.g. AMD, ATI, Microsoft, Samsung, etc.) which we, the consumers support. So basically it is a win-win situation for both of us (although I guess bw fans should be more grateful because we don't need fancy hardware). | ||
dnaxmen
Australia124 Posts
On October 25 2006 22:11 ml1710 wrote: using my psychic powers of premonition, i predict someone will be banned sometime in the future. but who? O_O yea, u right, man....i'm one of suspects. for the sake of it, plz kindly arrange your Quote abt my words as i do. cheers | ||
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thedeadhaji
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The prime example is broodwar versus warcraft. Both are rts games featuring both professional and amateur competitors. Both have similar formats for replays (unlike cs demos for instance) However one (wc) has replays uploaded after every day of the competition while it is going on, while another (bw) has none released till the very end. Were the wc reps leaked? or did wcg officially release them while the competition was still running? This is just a straightforward question btw, b/c I dont really know what exactly was going on during those 4 days. | ||
OpiX
Canada12 Posts
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dnaxmen
Australia124 Posts
On October 26 2006 20:46 OpiX wrote: Does anyone have the FINALS reps of Oov vs July?........Because every WCG rep pack i download has the finals missing.... PM wufan I guess.. ;D | ||
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jkillashark
United States5262 Posts
Anyhoo, I'm rather shocked at how such a little thing as replays is really causing such a commotion in what should be a tight knit community. Come on guys, you know better than to complain about things that are free. If someone gave you a $100 bill but it was all crumpled would you complain? I wouldn't, it's freaking free. Like I said about the PGT thing I will say again for this trivial WCG replays deal: JUST BE PATIENT | ||
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