EPTwasn't it his friend who came to his defense?
just read this thread over once though, and quickly.
[NEWS] Kosiro claims that he didn't cheat - Page 10
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
wasn't it his friend who came to his defense? just read this thread over once though, and quickly. | ||
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DarK]N[exuS
China1441 Posts
On September 24 2006 19:41 racebannon wrote: [removed quote within quote] they are internet lawyers because rather than come up with a cohesive counter argument to his drastically different replays they choose to throw out high school law class buzz words like "burden of proof" like we're sentencing him to 5 years in e-jail for his heinous crimes. The people saying that have NOTHING to do with the people you're arguing with, Mr. Genius. UNfortunately I'm going ot have to agree with Idra and say that YOU'RE the one arguing for no other reason than to argue. Quit being pretentious. | ||
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TaDa1.
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On September 24 2006 20:03 Hot_Bid wrote: [removed quote within quote] if he dies, he dies. I wonder if draco has seen that picture yet? | ||
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racebannon
Canada1225 Posts
On September 24 2006 20:36 DarK]N[exuS wrote: [removed quote within quote] The people saying that have NOTHING to do with the people you're arguing with, Mr. Genius. UNfortunately I'm going ot have to agree with Idra and say that YOU'RE the one arguing for no other reason than to argue. Quit being pretentious. I read this backwards so I would be absolutely certain it would not make sense to me, because the less i know the more right I am | ||
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DeathBlow
Romania117 Posts
No need for BWChart , Live APM or any other stuff to see that is not the same person . | ||
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Peyong
Trinidad/Tobago119 Posts
Maury: We asked you if you had firefist play for you in games 2 and 3, you said NO, the lie detector test determined that, that was a lie. Kosiro: WTF, that test is rigged (While running backstage,crying is eyes out) What evidence do we have that he cheated, obviously the only evidence that can be used in this situation; bwchart. And we also have 2 people that are very versed in this software. The way I look at it is that kosiro took a chance and thought that he'd probably beat Draco anyway, so why not get someone to play for you. That way you wouldn't dissapoint tl.net. How old is he btw. Everything about this is very childish. | ||
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Kaolla
China2999 Posts
On September 24 2006 20:20 DaZe wrote: [removed quote within quote] Jamie, you are probably pretty sure it was firefirst playing but that sidenote of info has NOTHING to do with the incident in sandlot, come on its not "illegal" to play on other ppls accounts on bnet or ladders. And even if it was you always have to look at each case individually, in all aspects... Im probably not the best guy to talk about wether he should be banned from tournament or not since im a member of tl.net team  but imo, if there are no really hard and concrete proof, I cant imagine anyone kicking him off the entire tournament, maybe give a WO in his game vs draco. OR, maybe they could re-play the games with kosiro 0-1 since everyone seems to be sure he played game 1 -_- hehe Daze you are making no sense... either he cheated or he didnt. What you say is, either if he did really cheat we should kick him... Or if he didnt cheat, we just replay the games anyway from 0-1 (which makes me think you really think he did do it too)... Of course either he should be banned or he should win 2-1... I dont see the logics in replaying games as that would be admitting he did cheat imho... And well i think the chances of someone suddenly playing alot better and suddenly having different hotkeys despite normally never using them makes the conclusion pretty simple.. Cause 1 thing could be explained by fresh air, but the other cannot... Even fresh air wont help that much if you're really drunk tho... But well >.< blabla | ||
Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
On September 24 2006 20:56 Kaolla wrote: [removed quote within quote] hehe Daze you are making no sense... either he cheated or he didnt. What you say is, either if he did really cheat we should kick him... Or if he didnt cheat, we just replay the games anyway from 0-1 (which makes me think you really think he did do it too)... Of course either he should be banned or he should win 2-1... I dont see the logics in replaying games as that would be admitting he did cheat imho... And well i think the chances of someone suddenly playing alot better and suddenly having different hotkeys despite normally never using them makes the conclusion pretty simple.. Cause 1 thing could be explained by fresh air, but the other cannot... Even fresh air wont help that much if you're really drunk tho... But well >.< blabla Well, basically, if from games 2/3 we're not completely sure who played, just re. First game both players know Kos played, and lost. So 2 games with Kos starting 0-1. I bow to Mani's decision, though, since he is captain...? and no matter what the conclusion to this argument, if Mani says that Kos is off the team, not much anyone can do about it. | ||
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[GiTM]-Ace
United States4935 Posts
On September 24 2006 20:53 Peyong wrote: Lets carry kosiro to the Maury show. Maury always gets his shit straight. Maury: We asked you if you had firefist play for you in games 2 and 3, you said NO, the lie detector test determined that, that was a lie. Kosiro: WTF, that test is rigged (While running backstage,crying is eyes out) What evidence do we have that he cheated, obviously the only evidence that can be used in this situation; bwchart. And we also have 2 people that are very versed in this software. The way I look at it is that kosiro took a chance and thought that he'd probably beat Draco anyway, so why not get someone to play for you. That way you wouldn't dissapoint tl.net. How old is he btw. Everything about this is very childish. lololol | ||
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Nal_CrayOn
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He basically said, in 2, 3rd games he made "zerglings" only not even hydras, so that he doesn't understand why people say 'hotkey difference'. According to his comment (he borrowed from polaris), he denied this strange situation. Personally i think kosiro/draco/tl.net leader/fifo leader meet together and find out the truth. And about the suspicion of nal_keke played for kosiro as draco claimed, I will ask keke in person. I'm pretty sure he won't do like this since i already explained to him how big this blizzard tourney is. | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
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Wasabi
United States3085 Posts
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Wasabi
United States3085 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
안녕하세요 Hello Kosiro 라는 아이디를 쓰는 이재억 이라고 합니다. I am Lee Je Uk aka Kosiro 여기에 저에 관련된 글을 보다가, 글을 남기게 되었습니다. I saw posts regarding what happened so I decided to go ahead and write one.. 직접 아이디를 만들어서, 글을 올리려 했으나, 새로 만든 아이디는 글쓰기가 안되더군요,, 그래서 아이디를 잠시 빌렸습니다. I am using Polaris' ID because making a new ID would not let me post. 우선.. 상황부터 말씀드리자면, 대회전 갑작스레 개인적인 일이 생겨서 대회를 피시방에 가서 하게되었습니다. 컨디션도 매우 나쁜상태였구요 하지만 전 그래도 이길려구 생각많이했습니다. 일딴 컨디션이 안좋기 때문에 3판2승제 였는데 모든게임 올인으로 게임 시작하기도 전에 생각했구요. 모든겜 10분도 안됩니다. First of all, to explain what happened, I suddenly had a personal problem so I was forced to play at a PC Cafe. I was in a bad contiion also but I wanted to win really bad. But since it was Best Out Of 3 Match I decided to go all-in in all of them - not one of them lasts more than 10 minutes. 피시방에서 1차전을 하게되었습니다. 그러다 졌구요, 셋팅상태가 좋지 않아 근처에 숙소로 자리를 옴기고자, 양해를 구하려고 그때의 제 상황을 말씀드렸구요.. 하지만 그게 제 뜻과는 다른 정보로 사람들귀에 들어간거 같아 개인적으로 많이 안타깝습니다. I played the first game at the Cafe, and I lost. I disliked the setting so I asked pardon so I could go back to my practice room...and I am disappointed people were misinformed of what really happened during that period of time. 제가 소속된 TL팀에서 이 일로 저를 제외한다 해도 저는 전혀 상관이 없구요, 다만 저는 좋은취지로 열리는 대회라, 최근에 준비중인 대회도 없고해서 많이 준비하였습니다. 참 의도와는 다르게 불미스러운 일로 번지고 말았네요 정말 죄송합니다. 상대선수 Draco 선수께도 죄송하구요, 한국에 계시니 다음에 볼수 있을것입니다. 그때 불쾌했다면 사과하면 되는것이구요,, 이 pgr 이란곳에 글을 첨 쓰는데, 몇줄 안되는 글쓰는데도 참 힘드네요 ㅜㅜ It won't matter that much to me if TL.Net excludes me from the team because of what happened, but since this tournmanet was a important/fun one and I did not have any other upcoming ones, I practiced a lot for them. I am really sorry for all the unexpected trouble I caused. I apologize to my opponent Draco for what happened, especially considering I will meet him sometime soon since he is in Korea. [[SKIPPED THE USELESS PARAGRAPH]] 정말 대회가 성공적으로 치뤄졌으면 좋겠구, TL팀의 우승을 바랍니다. 불미스러운 일이 발생하게 되어 다시한번 사과의 뜻을 전합니다. 죄송합니다 새로운형식의 대회라 많이 기대하고 준비했는데 이젠, 어렵게 새로운팀에 들어와 소속팀에 누가 되지 않을까 많이 걱정되네요 ㅜ ㅜ I sincerely hope this tournament goes well, and I wish the best and victory for teamliquid.net I apologize again for the unexpected mess. I am sorry. It was a new and creative style of tournament so I was excited and prepared for it. It worries me that I harmed the team instead... | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
Let's move on now. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
Which works for me since im on the team he thrashed  | ||
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