EPTOn January 11 2014 03:41 SynC[gm] wrote:
Echo has never reached C-, therefore, he should be allowed to play.
Echo has never reached C-, therefore, he should be allowed to play.
lol
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arb
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Fazers
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SynC[gm]
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O.o? He's actually never hit C- in terms of iCCup ranking. I was simply saying that technically, Echo should be allowed to play if Stardom, Napoleon, and Comsat, who have also never hit C- are allowed to play, if they're better than someone who's hit C-, like fabiano. Echo fits into the category of having never hit C- but are better than someone who's hit C- :O | ||
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arb
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On January 11 2014 05:33 SynC[gm] wrote: O.o? He's actually never hit C- in terms of iCCup ranking. I was simply saying that technically, Echo should be allowed to play if Stardom, Napoleon, and Comsat, who have also never hit C- are allowed to play, if they're better than someone who's hit C-, like fabiano. Echo fits into the category of having never hit C- but are better than someone who's hit C- :O They've all also played many ladder games and never hit C-. Saying you dont ladder is a crutch tbh. Esp for someone who's been too good for the league and on a very consistent basis for a long time. | ||
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Fazers
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On January 11 2014 05:33 SynC[gm] wrote: O.o? He's actually never hit C- in terms of iCCup ranking. I was simply saying that technically, Echo should be allowed to play if Stardom, Napoleon, and Comsat, who have also never hit C- are allowed to play, if they're better than someone who's hit C-, like fabiano. Echo fits into the category of having never hit C- but are better than someone who's hit C- :O By definition, sure. By skill level, no. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On January 10 2014 22:29 floladriblere wrote: You hit C- in a good run in this 300+ games season. In your case, l_master shoud just watch replays of your drtl games this season and judge your skill level. I consider players like stardom, napoleon, comsat better than you and they were allowed in the previous DRIT, based on the fact that they didn't reach C-. I understand the sentiment...but no. Reasoning is twofold. First, it forces me to be completely arbitrary on skill judgements, and I have zero confidence in my ability to discern the difference between someone who can get to 2900 pts with 300 games, or someone that can get to 3050 pts with 300 games. More importantly, by definition a player that can hit C- is too strong for this league. Fabiano can hit C- with 300 games on a good run, the other players in this league cannot, ergo he is not eligible. Unfortunately, I still have to use some arbitrariness in players with insufficient ladder games who I feel are "too strong", but if they disagree with my decision they can always go ladder 100 games and show me the error of my ways. The other reason is that cases like Fabiano are precisely how we got to C- RTL in the first place. If I allow Fabiano in with 300 games and touched C-, what about the guy that got there with 289 games? Then when I include him, how can I justify excluding the 270 game C- guy? It just becomes and endless slope, and a line must be drawn at some point. That line is having ever touched C-. EDIT: As I've said before, until (if) StarServer is upwe are fairly stuck with the ICCup system, which as far as a judge of skill goes is fairly shitty but nonetheless the only objective measure we have to work with. | ||
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fabiano
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 I understand L_master, no worries. | ||
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L_Master
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On January 12 2014 06:59 fabiano wrote: Just to make it clear, I'm not trying to register myself in DRIT 8, was just pointing out the rule I understand L_master, no worries. I know I was responding more to L1ghtning (i think) saying that for close players I should get reps and try to evaluate the skill myself. | ||
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SynC[gm]
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Not that Echo ever loses anyways. | ||
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traceurling
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SynC[gm]
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 Minscandboo greenelve Falling Qikz Stardom(OD) amazingxkcd Golondrin L1ghtning Phailol Sinedd Iway NiDiaoBaoLe SalazarzSo far, 12. I didn't count people with just 1 post, and I didn't count sGs.Click and Animus since they both said never mind. I also didn't count the ones that listed C- as a max rank and MediocreWolf. | ||
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traceurling
United States1240 Posts
If you need someone to fill out the brackets you can sign me up so its a walk over a person instead of a straight up walk over .-. because I want to compete just don't think I can make group stages...unless there's a way to arrange for reschedules? + Show Spoiler + TL Name: traceurling ICCup Akas: traceurling, asiantraceur Highest Max Rank achieved on ANY account: D+ Race/Matchups: DRTL Team you're on/Previous DRITs: DRTL | ||
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L_Master
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traceurling
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On January 12 2014 11:57 L_Master wrote: Only way to reschedule a group is if the entire group is willing to accommodate a rescheduled time. Yeah just saying if you need someone to fill out the brackets put me in .-. and I guess theoretically it could work like Game 1: a vs b on z Game 2: c vs d on z Game 3: Winner 1 vs Winner 2 on x Game 4: Loser 1 vs Loser 2 on x Game 5: Loser 3 vs Winner 4 on y And then reschedule before Saturday game vs b on z, and then play c and d on x, and if necessary reschdule Game 5 to Sunday? Idk just theoretically it could work if everyone in the group feels like being accomodating | ||
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L_Master
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On January 12 2014 12:14 traceurling wrote: Yeah just saying if you need someone to fill out the brackets put me in .-. and I guess theoretically it could work like Game 1: a vs b on z Game 2: c vs d on z Game 3: Winner 1 vs Winner 2 on x Game 4: Loser 1 vs Loser 2 on x Game 5: Loser 3 vs Winner 4 on y And then reschedule before Saturday game vs b on z, and then play c and d on x, and if necessary reschdule Game 5 to Sunday? Idk just theoretically it could work if everyone in the group feels like being accomodating Way too many logistical problems with this unfortunately. Only way I'd accept is if players a,b,c, and d are all okay with moving the group to a different day and time. (i.e. instead of 11am on 18th 11am on the 9th) | ||
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L1ghtning
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On January 12 2014 07:33 L_Master wrote: I know I was responding more to L1ghtning (i think) saying that for close players I should get reps and try to evaluate the skill myself. No! It wasn't me! It was the one-armed man! Anyway, I think your reasoning makes sense. It's probably best to cut off all C- players, and then also remove players who have produced such good winrates that they most likely would reach C- if they just played a bit more. On January 12 2014 11:34 SynC[gm] wrote: Minscandboo greenelve Falling Qikz Stardom(OD) amazingxkcd Golondrin L1ghtning Phailol Sinedd Iway NiDiaoBaoLe SalazarzSo far, 12. I didn't count people with just 1 post, and I didn't count sGs.Click and Animus since they both said never mind. I also didn't count the ones that listed C- as a max rank and MediocreWolf. You missed some players. | ||
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