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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9517 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 21:07:41
November 23 2013 16:37 GMT
#1
TLS3 Finals


TeamLiquid Legacy Starleague, Season 3 on Liquipedia

Streams

Link to official stream

Casters: Sayle & Elegant

Third Place Match

    (P)DragOn
    (Z)TechnicS

Finals

    (Z)Sziky
    (Z)trutaCz


Maps

    (Wiki)Destination
    (Wiki)Neo Aztec
    (Wiki)Andromeda
    (Wiki)Polaris Rhapsody
    (Wiki)Fighting Spirit


Results


+ Show Spoiler [Third Place Match] +

(P)DragOn < Destination > (Z)TechnicS
(P)DragOn < Neo Aztec > (Z)TechnicS
(P)DragOn < Andromeda > (Z)TechnicS
(P)DragOn < Polaris Rhapsody > (Z)TechnicS
(P)DragOn < Fighting Spirit > (Z)TechnicS


TechnicS wins the third place match!


+ Show Spoiler [Finals] +

(Z)Sziky < Destination > (Z)trutaCz
(Z)Sziky < Neo Aztec > (Z)trutaCz
(Z)Sziky < Andromeda > (Z)trutaCz
(Z)Sziky < Fighting Spirit > (Z)trutaCz
(Z)Sziky < Polaris Rhapsody > (Z)trutaCz
(Z)Sziky < Destination > (Z)trutaCz
(Z)Sziky < Fighting Spirit > (Z)trutaCz


Sziky wins the TLS Season 3!


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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9517 Posts
November 23 2013 16:57 GMT
#2
Join the TLS discussion on reddit! - http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1rakgr/in_one_hour_teamliquid_legacy_starleague_season_3/
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
November 23 2013 17:20 GMT
#3
Hell yeah TLS!
DragOn looks in good shape. Sziky is going to get his 3rd TLS title in a row... It will make the TLS championship exciting, just like Idra was the man to beat in TSL2 .
ॐ
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
November 23 2013 17:27 GMT
#4
upset please upset!!!
Hetairoi
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Sweden508 Posts
November 23 2013 17:33 GMT
#5
gogo trutaCz~
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
November 23 2013 17:38 GMT
#6
[image loading]
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
November 23 2013 17:40 GMT
#7
this is my first live finals, will the players play live or is this replays?
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 23 2013 18:05 GMT
#8
1st : zerg
2nd : zerg
3rd : zerg
1, 2, 3 zerg!
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28706 Posts
November 23 2013 18:05 GMT
#9
that's such a perfect picture wingpawn. thank you.

and I mean nothing against sziky, but he's so good that I have to root against him. go trutacz! trutacz has shown us some really high class zvz through the tourney as well, so I think it's possible!
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Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
November 23 2013 18:10 GMT
#10
thanks for the overlay image wingpawn!
Mewka
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland1458 Posts
November 23 2013 18:10 GMT
#11
does chat work ?
Mewka, Mewka[AoV], Fox.Mewka, Mewman
InspiredFrog
Profile Joined February 2009
Finland522 Posts
November 23 2013 18:12 GMT
#12
Go zerg!
Much | Iris | July --- TaeJa | HerO | TLO
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 23 2013 18:33 GMT
#13
dragon uses 3-4 storms on 3 lurkers into gg
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28706 Posts
November 23 2013 18:37 GMT
#14
haha draw but then the opposite happened
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28706 Posts
November 23 2013 18:38 GMT
#15
and then the same thing happened.
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dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 23 2013 18:39 GMT
#16
Yeah... It's a bit disappointing. but the gg timing is correct, he was mined out in his main and lost his whole army. I think against 4hhydra when they will follow up with lurker (most of the times) it's probably better to delay the third until you have a large army then go into double expand. Then again, hindsight bias.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 23 2013 19:11 GMT
#17
game 2 I missed until the end but it's zergtec so not too surprised
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
November 23 2013 19:26 GMT
#18
sorry for bad games today, i broke up with my girlfriend last night and did not feel into playing. In game 2 I felt I shouldve won if i didnt forget 1+ ground weapons, which is pretty much essential in all pvz, especially vs mass ling style. Actually I felt i shouldve won in game 1 as well, but i guess im too noob to secure a 3rd base with an advantage. Game 3 I just gave up..sad play from me. congrats to technics
aka DragOn[NaS]
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 23 2013 19:27 GMT
#19
On November 24 2013 04:26 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
sorry for bad games today, i broke up with my girlfriend last night and did not feel into playing. In game 2 I felt I shouldve won if i didnt forget 1+ ground weapons, which is pretty much essential in all pvz, especially vs mass ling style. Actually I felt i shouldve won in game 1 as well, but i guess im too noob to secure a 3rd base with an advantage. Game 3 I just gave up..sad play from me. congrats to technics


Sorry to hear that.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28706 Posts
November 23 2013 19:27 GMT
#20
that sucks. bw is too hard to play if your mind isn't in the right place. good job getting to semis anyway.
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dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 23 2013 19:29 GMT
#21
Sziky vs Trutacz finals coming up! No need to apologize trutacz, we all knew Sziky would win again...
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
November 23 2013 19:33 GMT
#22
On November 24 2013 04:26 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
sorry for bad games today, i broke up with my girlfriend last night and did not feel into playing. In game 2 I felt I shouldve won if i didnt forget 1+ ground weapons, which is pretty much essential in all pvz, especially vs mass ling style. Actually I felt i shouldve won in game 1 as well, but i guess im too noob to secure a 3rd base with an advantage. Game 3 I just gave up..sad play from me. congrats to technics


Well at least you broke up with her.

2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 23 2013 19:39 GMT
#23
On November 24 2013 04:33 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 04:26 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
sorry for bad games today, i broke up with my girlfriend last night and did not feel into playing. In game 2 I felt I shouldve won if i didnt forget 1+ ground weapons, which is pretty much essential in all pvz, especially vs mass ling style. Actually I felt i shouldve won in game 1 as well, but i guess im too noob to secure a 3rd base with an advantage. Game 3 I just gave up..sad play from me. congrats to technics


Well at least you broke up with her.



Sayle just put him on blast "She broke up with Dragon"... Either way, Trutacz vs Sziky!!
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
November 23 2013 19:40 GMT
#24
this is the hardest-to-find LR thread of life!!!!
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28706 Posts
November 23 2013 19:44 GMT
#25
great micro by trutacz!!
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dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 23 2013 19:47 GMT
#26
Trutacz can kill the natural if he snipes the spore
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 23 2013 19:48 GMT
#27
game is close, very close. Why doesn't anyone ever use LRT?
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 23 2013 19:49 GMT
#28
GREAT move by sziky to go for the drones. This will be really close, the spores go down in the main.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 23 2013 19:50 GMT
#29
ahh, good 1st game. Trutacz barely goes out and Sziky will take it.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 23 2013 19:50 GMT
#30
dis game.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28706 Posts
November 23 2013 19:52 GMT
#31
yeah perfect decision making by sziky, and looks like he won the game now.. but very promising start by trutacz, frankly he has been winning the micro battles, and that means it's possible to win future games!
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FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
November 23 2013 19:53 GMT
#32
very gg
aka DragOn[NaS]
Mewka
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland1458 Posts
November 23 2013 19:53 GMT
#33
so intense game
Mewka, Mewka[AoV], Fox.Mewka, Mewman
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
November 23 2013 19:54 GMT
#34
Stopped porn for this.

A testament of that game's enjoyment.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
November 23 2013 19:55 GMT
#35
Kickass game, maybe if Trutacz was little more agressive with the troop advantage he had...

Sorry to hear the news from Dragon, shit happens T_T
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 23 2013 19:55 GMT
#36
!!!!!! very nice micro battles.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
NewbOnTheFloor
Profile Joined November 2013
Poland160 Posts
November 23 2013 19:55 GMT
#37
It's so nice to see Liquid'Drone in bw thread =)
Wp game no1 Sziky !
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
November 23 2013 19:56 GMT
#38
exciting zvz
En Taro Violet
Poetic[AoV]
Profile Joined November 2009
United Kingdom183 Posts
November 23 2013 19:58 GMT
#39
WP trutacz but if sziky can win that then there is no way he's going to lose
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
November 23 2013 19:59 GMT
#40
what were the builds in game 1?
brood war for life, brood war forever
NewbOnTheFloor
Profile Joined November 2013
Poland160 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 20:20:04
November 23 2013 19:59 GMT
#41
9 pool from Trutacz vs OP from Sziky
Edit :
that was game no2
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
November 23 2013 20:01 GMT
#42
9p vs 12h : O
brood war for life, brood war forever
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
November 23 2013 20:01 GMT
#43
On November 24 2013 04:59 Crunchums wrote:
what were the builds in game 1?

9 Pool Gas for Trutacz, 12 Pool expand for Sziky.
Poetic[AoV]
Profile Joined November 2009
United Kingdom183 Posts
November 23 2013 20:03 GMT
#44
gogo trutacz!! 9p speed should win this
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 23 2013 20:04 GMT
#45
really good so far for trutacz
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28706 Posts
November 23 2013 20:04 GMT
#46
so now trut is ahead in gas, even drone atleast, ahead in tech.. looks great!
Moderator
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 23 2013 20:04 GMT
#47
Don't know why sziky cancelled the hatch so fast. Trutacz forces spire cancel.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 23 2013 20:05 GMT
#48
trutacz way ahead right now
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 23 2013 20:07 GMT
#49
sziky forced to spore. That delay with the lings was HUGE. Trutacz SHOULD win right now, but if spores go up sziky will be ahead
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 23 2013 20:08 GMT
#50
Another backstab, sziky playing really well from behind. Good comeback from Sziky really well played.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 23 2013 20:09 GMT
#51
Now I feel a bit bad for trutacz, there was almost no way he could've lost that from the advantage. Hope he can win game 3 to regain some momentum
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28706 Posts
November 23 2013 20:09 GMT
#52
tt thats so sad. but it's rare to see sziky win not because of mechanics.
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Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
November 23 2013 20:09 GMT
#53
god damn that was impressive
brood war for life, brood war forever
Levistus
Profile Joined December 2009
1134 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 20:12:55
November 23 2013 20:12 GMT
#54
couldn't trutacz kill the spores with micro(pullng hurt mutas)? not sure if the 2nd one was made to spore. shouldnt he have tried anyway? btw i dont really know if he could just asking.
hey man just curious
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
November 23 2013 20:18 GMT
#55
sziky overgas vs trutacz 12p
brood war for life, brood war forever
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 23 2013 20:20 GMT
#56
BO Advantage AND scout advantage for Trutacz, please win!
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Poetic[AoV]
Profile Joined November 2009
United Kingdom183 Posts
November 23 2013 20:23 GMT
#57
Again trutacz has a nice advantage
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 23 2013 20:25 GMT
#58
too many drones and sziky wins. Trutacz really running into trouble now
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
November 23 2013 20:26 GMT
#59
lol at calling the ISL'S oldschool. Elegant and Sayle, i enjoy your casting, but sometimes i realize your like freshly spawned little zerglings
Broodwar for life!
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
November 23 2013 20:34 GMT
#60
9p mirror crossmap on FS
brood war for life, brood war forever
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
November 23 2013 20:37 GMT
#61
well that was entertaining
brood war for life, brood war forever
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
November 23 2013 20:37 GMT
#62
looks like a clean sweep.. sziky is just way too good
Poetic[AoV]
Profile Joined November 2009
United Kingdom183 Posts
November 23 2013 20:37 GMT
#63
Entertaining.... but now gg
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
November 23 2013 20:38 GMT
#64
classy gg by trutacz
brood war for life, brood war forever
Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
November 23 2013 20:39 GMT
#65
congratulations ! 4-0 wow
Where is my ACE flair
InspiredFrog
Profile Joined February 2009
Finland522 Posts
November 23 2013 20:39 GMT
#66
Damn, awfully one-sided day. Grats to Sziky the unbeatable though!
Much | Iris | July --- TaeJa | HerO | TLO
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 23 2013 20:39 GMT
#67
4-0 ggs, Sziky pay day was successful. :sziky: champion!
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28706 Posts
November 23 2013 20:40 GMT
#68
that was much closer than the 4-0 would indicate. some small decisions and super close fights ended up going sziky's way, I think this could easily have been 2-2 instead right now.

but yea he's still king, and showcased that like, even when he's not mechanically superior then he has other areas of the game where he is best. totally complete player.
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Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
November 23 2013 20:41 GMT
#69
showmatch?
brood war for life, brood war forever
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
November 23 2013 20:42 GMT
#70


replace korea "flag" and mlg with sziky and tls
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
November 23 2013 20:43 GMT
#71
gg well deserved by sziky. nice show from trutacz
En Taro Violet
Zallkar
Profile Joined June 2010
United States449 Posts
November 23 2013 20:43 GMT
#72
Get Sziky a Golden TL shirt!
Understand.
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
November 23 2013 20:45 GMT
#73
no showmatch? big dissapointment tbh!
Broodwar for life!
Mewka
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland1458 Posts
November 23 2013 20:46 GMT
#74
Good but sad games
Mewka, Mewka[AoV], Fox.Mewka, Mewman
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
November 23 2013 20:47 GMT
#75
Great tournament, big thanks to everyone involved
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
November 23 2013 20:47 GMT
#76
those were some sick games
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
zimp
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary954 Posts
November 23 2013 20:49 GMT
#77
gg
agentzimp
TL+ Member
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
November 23 2013 20:49 GMT
#78
On November 24 2013 05:45 Cele wrote:
no showmatch? big dissapointment tbh!

yeah ;_;
brood war for life, brood war forever
trutaCz
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland686 Posts
November 23 2013 20:51 GMT
#79
Huh ggs, thank you all who were cheering for me. Tried to make it not so much one-sided, but i totally lost my mind and gave up after i lost 2 games which i should have won(probably). Congratz to Sziky, he's a superior player
yo~.~
iG.Arcneon
Profile Joined January 2013
Finland333 Posts
November 23 2013 21:00 GMT
#80
vods pls i missed this!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 23 2013 21:12 GMT
#81
Oh look it's Clawson.
dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
November 23 2013 21:34 GMT
#82
On November 24 2013 05:51 trutaCz wrote:
Huh ggs, thank you all who were cheering for me. Tried to make it not so much one-sided, but i totally lost my mind and gave up after i lost 2 games which i should have won(probably). Congratz to Sziky, he's a superior player


Great games! You showed a lot of fight. A lot of nailbiters! Probably my fav TLS finals so far.
wndr
Profile Joined January 2012
19 Posts
November 23 2013 21:49 GMT
#83
Even though it was a clean sweep, I really enjoyed the finals!
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 23 2013 22:14 GMT
#84
On November 24 2013 06:00 iG.Arcneon wrote:
vods pls i missed this!


hope you playing in the STL match that will be casted tomorrow!!!
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 23 2013 23:19 GMT
#85
trutacz, eonzerg, zaraki, bonyth, dsaqwe, handy, dandy, terror, and more... wtf going on @ iccup?? everyone is online :D
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19298 Posts
November 23 2013 23:32 GMT
#86
Sorry I wasn't there for this guys. Haven't had a computer for the last week from my mom and went home to family . Grats to Sziky for awesome play.
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9517 Posts
November 24 2013 00:05 GMT
#87
On November 24 2013 08:19 dRaW wrote:
trutacz, eonzerg, zaraki, bonyth, dsaqwe, handy, dandy, terror, and more... wtf going on @ iccup?? everyone is online :D

Everyone practicing for TLS Championship.

Btw, if you dodge again you're banned, EVERYWHERE!
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ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1699 Posts
November 24 2013 00:24 GMT
#88
On November 24 2013 05:45 Cele wrote:
no showmatch? big dissapointment tbh!

If Sayle was more in practice, we totally woulda showmatched for you guys. But there are always the events between now and TLS Championship ^^

Well played to both guys tonight. Trutacz's play hit another level, taking on Sziky like that. But what a player Sziky has become. A real force.
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MinscandBoo
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
252 Posts
November 24 2013 04:16 GMT
#89
just watched the vods. dragon nooooo T_T good effort trutacz!
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traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
November 24 2013 04:21 GMT
#90
Good job Trutacz sad you didn't win cuz would've helped my Liquibet XD sadface also because no Sziky vs Bisu showmatch Excited to see TLS Championships
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
November 24 2013 08:31 GMT
#91
On November 24 2013 09:24 ImbaTosS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 05:45 Cele wrote:
no showmatch? big dissapointment tbh!

If Sayle was more in practice, we totally woulda showmatched for you guys. But there are always the events between now and TLS Championship ^^

Well played to both guys tonight. Trutacz's play hit another level, taking on Sziky like that. But what a player Sziky has become. A real force.

Well, then make it a highlight of TLS championship! Elegant vs Sayle showmatch; no matter what level of practice you guys have, there's always a possibility to give some handicaps or offracing odds to make it more even.
iG.Arcneon
Profile Joined January 2013
Finland333 Posts
November 24 2013 14:57 GMT
#92
Very nice finals Can't believe I actually liked a ZvZ serie :O Congrats Sziky!
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 19:33:44
November 24 2013 15:46 GMT
#93
On November 24 2013 05:40 Liquid`Drone wrote:
that was much closer than the 4-0 would indicate. some small decisions and super close fights ended up going sziky's way, I think this could easily have been 2-2 instead right now.

lol you cant say that, win is a win. If thats the case then TechnicS couldve easily go 4:2 against Sziky last season, instead 2:4, cuz 2 of his games he was advantageous enough for us vewers to think he is 90% gonna win. Then he lose by tiny little things. That little things actually is the very big things that decide the games.
In game 1 and 2 i dont think trutacz had so much advantage, he lost game 1 as soon as he decided to cut drones and go for fast spire, sziky superrior eco was just going to kill him in the later stage of the game anyways. Game 2 same, going behind in eco against sziky is sure loss.

Gongratulations to Sziky, Trutacz and Technics, for their finish.
Great ZvZ games i must admit.

Sziky is the most creative foreign player in terms of tactics i have ever seen. His abillity to adapt and improvise is way above all the preparations his opponents can possiblly do, with TechnicS being the closest to his skill.

Think about it, Flash never had a game plan while he was the best of the best. Preparing situations and actions by yourself that involve other people is not what will work naturally(take conversation for example). You must do what you do + force your opponent to do what you want him to do and then putting all this to work is so much harder. Instead of working on understanding your opponents mind and adapt, let him do what he wants to do and feel he is on the right way and when the time comes he will just realise he failed badly. One must have huge game understanding for such things, but thats an skill applyable for all the opponents you face.

Creativity --->Improvisation/Adaptation thats the most important skills of the high level game by my view, and thats what make the game really an art.

Its like an jam session with musicians, every one of you have some skills and understanding of the music you make, but all that matters is what you create at the moment - the flow.

I really want to see some interviews with sziky, im sure he dont just play game by thinking, he must trully have an inpiration and real passion to be able to play like that.
Luv ya BroodWar!
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 16:08:37
November 24 2013 16:08 GMT
#94
sorry double post
Luv ya BroodWar!
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 24 2013 18:37 GMT
#95
Sziky truly is the foreign bonjwa. Gratz!
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28706 Posts
November 24 2013 20:46 GMT
#96
sometimes in bw if you are around their skill level, you can first lose 4-0 to a player and beat him 4-0 the next day. yes, ultimately it's skill and yes sziky totally deserved to win because he's the best, smartest and most complete. but the thing is that 4-0 usually looks like one player was totally outplayed, that wasn't the case here. in the first two games trutacz won the micro battles and looked just as good as sziky. and then, after winning the first two, sziky had the momentum and genuinely dominated games 3 and 4. games one and two were really close. they were definitely not decided by trutacz making too few drones, they were decided by sziky recognizing that he was at a disadvantage and smartly backstabbing with mutalisks. but like, this type of backstab is only something you do in a zvz if you are at a disadvantage. the very fact that sziky decided to attack with a lower amount of mutalisks than trutacz had - which means death if you are caught in the middle - is proof of the fact that he knew he was at a disadvantage, otherwise he would never do it.

also, people complimenting trutacz for his play is not actually an attack on technics. frankly though, I thought this was just as close of a series as the 4-2 he played.
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_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 23:07:58
November 24 2013 22:57 GMT
#97
U understand me wrong for some things. Im not saying game 1 wasnt close and think that sziky did the backstab, because he know he cant fight superror number mutas of trutacz and he saw that opportunity to put them to use. Yes, he was disadvantageous on the muta count, but had greater eco and spore defences.
On the part with reverse 4-0 i highly doubt that will happen in the current form of the two, as far as my understanding goes.
Trutacz has really impressive micro, maybe the best for non pro foreigneer, but Sziky is much more complex player in every other aspect. And i dont take compliment for Trutacz as insult for TechnicS or anything like that i just gave you Tech for example of my point.
Luv ya BroodWar!
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28706 Posts
November 24 2013 23:16 GMT
#98
don't get me wrong. I wasn't trying to imply that trutacz could beat sziky 4-0 the next time they played. sziky is the better player. but it wasn't a complete blowout, trutacz was very close to winning two of the games and I'd say he was actually unlucky to lose 0-4.
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therockmanxx
Profile Joined July 2010
Peru1174 Posts
November 26 2013 05:13 GMT
#99
BW is better than porn
There I say it !!
Awesome game, there was an zvz final in d proscene before
But this was as awesome as that
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dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 26 2013 05:27 GMT
#100
http://23akyi2c120wnn7q.watch2gether.com/ old TSL, dinOt vs JF
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5497 Posts
November 26 2013 13:12 GMT
#101
2 out of 4 of the games in the ZvZ finals were mind blowing... which really suprising considering that we are talking about ZvZ
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
November 26 2013 14:56 GMT
#102
On November 25 2013 08:16 Liquid`Drone wrote:
don't get me wrong. I wasn't trying to imply that trutacz could beat sziky 4-0 the next time they played. sziky is the better player. but it wasn't a complete blowout, trutacz was very close to winning two of the games and I'd say he was actually unlucky to lose 0-4.

This is true, once you lose two games you should have won you feel like shit and throw away the rest. At least for me momentum made a big difference in my games.
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
November 27 2013 10:25 GMT
#103
Are you going to create a playlist for the finals on the TLS youtube channel? This is the only way the games not getting get spoiled (unless you're going to make a seperate post with vods ofc) ...also, thanks so much for this great tournament!
purgerinho
Profile Joined June 2008
Croatia919 Posts
December 01 2013 13:41 GMT
#104
sziky can't be stopped :D
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Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-08 00:21:03
December 07 2013 23:57 GMT
#105
Sziky is the one. Kneel down before the chosen one.

Just watched game 2, my god that ling contain on mutas, amazing zvz :D
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