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rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
September 24 2013 03:46 GMT
#21
this community is being toxic do you realize you are hurting starcraft by asking these questions?
L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
September 24 2013 04:04 GMT
#22
Sero hit B- after signing up. I was just copy-pasting what I had, I changed it to C+. He's allowed to participate this season but it will be his last. Not long ago he was like C level and I played him a few times then so I'm inclined to believe his improvement is recent. And he went 4-5 last season.

inf3cted isnt doing anything other than submitting lineups and replays. He's still banned from playing but tbh i dont have a good answer for you in this case. It might be better to give captainship to one of the players after the team has coalesced.
Watching Jaedong play purifies my eyes. -Coach Ju Hoon
Siz)Beggar
Profile Joined May 2008
United States339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-24 04:38:00
September 24 2013 04:36 GMT
#23
On September 24 2013 11:52 LightningEdge wrote:
Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.

And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata.


i dont see the problem with b- since c+ can take a game or two off of b- iccup is a horrible judgement of skill since people are either horrible or they are some what decent and lancerx has been the same rank since the beginning of iccup hes like a robot i've watched him lose to draws zerg like 5-0 when draws zerg was like c/c+ level and fold is around c/c+ level isnt he? and inf3cted is just the captain hes not playing i dont see the point in kicking people out of a community for one stupid decision.

and also i dont even see you in the crtl teams so why are you complaining ?
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
September 24 2013 04:38 GMT
#24
On September 24 2013 13:36 Siz)Beggar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 11:52 LightningEdge wrote:
Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.

And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata.
and inf3cted is just the captain hes not playing i dont see the point in kicking people out of a community for one stupid decision.

The point is to make an example of cheaters, so that others don't think they'll get away with cheating.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
Siz)Beggar
Profile Joined May 2008
United States339 Posts
September 24 2013 04:39 GMT
#25
On September 24 2013 13:38 Birdie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 13:36 Siz)Beggar wrote:
On September 24 2013 11:52 LightningEdge wrote:
Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.

And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata.
and inf3cted is just the captain hes not playing i dont see the point in kicking people out of a community for one stupid decision.

The point is to make an example of cheaters, so that others don't think they'll get away with cheating.


he didnt cheat though he just smurfed ..
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
September 24 2013 04:46 GMT
#26
On September 24 2013 13:39 Siz)Beggar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 13:38 Birdie wrote:
On September 24 2013 13:36 Siz)Beggar wrote:
On September 24 2013 11:52 LightningEdge wrote:
Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.

And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata.
and inf3cted is just the captain hes not playing i dont see the point in kicking people out of a community for one stupid decision.

The point is to make an example of cheaters, so that others don't think they'll get away with cheating.


he didnt cheat though he just smurfed ..

Yeah I'm pretty sure playing for another player without letting others know is cheating.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10726 Posts
September 24 2013 05:17 GMT
#27
Team 6 will win this easily, korean practice regimen incoming.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
September 24 2013 05:29 GMT
#28
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Siz)Beggar
Profile Joined May 2008
United States339 Posts
September 24 2013 05:33 GMT
#29
On September 24 2013 13:46 Birdie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 13:39 Siz)Beggar wrote:
On September 24 2013 13:38 Birdie wrote:
On September 24 2013 13:36 Siz)Beggar wrote:
On September 24 2013 11:52 LightningEdge wrote:
Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.

And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata.
and inf3cted is just the captain hes not playing i dont see the point in kicking people out of a community for one stupid decision.

The point is to make an example of cheaters, so that others don't think they'll get away with cheating.


he didnt cheat though he just smurfed ..

Yeah I'm pretty sure playing for another player without letting others know is cheating.


so lets kick what little players we have in the community out right? sounds great
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
September 24 2013 05:47 GMT
#30
On September 24 2013 14:33 Siz)Beggar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 13:46 Birdie wrote:
On September 24 2013 13:39 Siz)Beggar wrote:
On September 24 2013 13:38 Birdie wrote:
On September 24 2013 13:36 Siz)Beggar wrote:
On September 24 2013 11:52 LightningEdge wrote:
Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.

And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata.
and inf3cted is just the captain hes not playing i dont see the point in kicking people out of a community for one stupid decision.

The point is to make an example of cheaters, so that others don't think they'll get away with cheating.


he didnt cheat though he just smurfed ..

Yeah I'm pretty sure playing for another player without letting others know is cheating.


so lets kick what little players we have in the community out right? sounds great

We don't need cheaters in this community.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
Siz)Beggar
Profile Joined May 2008
United States339 Posts
September 24 2013 05:53 GMT
#31
On September 24 2013 14:47 Birdie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 14:33 Siz)Beggar wrote:
On September 24 2013 13:46 Birdie wrote:
On September 24 2013 13:39 Siz)Beggar wrote:
On September 24 2013 13:38 Birdie wrote:
On September 24 2013 13:36 Siz)Beggar wrote:
On September 24 2013 11:52 LightningEdge wrote:
Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.

And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata.
and inf3cted is just the captain hes not playing i dont see the point in kicking people out of a community for one stupid decision.

The point is to make an example of cheaters, so that others don't think they'll get away with cheating.


he didnt cheat though he just smurfed ..

Yeah I'm pretty sure playing for another player without letting others know is cheating.


so lets kick what little players we have in the community out right? sounds great

We don't need cheaters in this community.

i can understand if this guy like ruined the whole league or something but you act as if they hadnt already taken some action towards him ... you act like hes savior fixing matches lol
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
September 24 2013 06:03 GMT
#32
On September 24 2013 14:53 Siz)Beggar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 14:47 Birdie wrote:
On September 24 2013 14:33 Siz)Beggar wrote:
On September 24 2013 13:46 Birdie wrote:
On September 24 2013 13:39 Siz)Beggar wrote:
On September 24 2013 13:38 Birdie wrote:
On September 24 2013 13:36 Siz)Beggar wrote:
On September 24 2013 11:52 LightningEdge wrote:
Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.

And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata.
and inf3cted is just the captain hes not playing i dont see the point in kicking people out of a community for one stupid decision.

The point is to make an example of cheaters, so that others don't think they'll get away with cheating.


he didnt cheat though he just smurfed ..

Yeah I'm pretty sure playing for another player without letting others know is cheating.


so lets kick what little players we have in the community out right? sounds great

We don't need cheaters in this community.

i can understand if this guy like ruined the whole league or something but you act as if they hadnt already taken some action towards him ... you act like hes savior fixing matches lol


Wait. Genuinely curious here. What action was taken against inf3cted?

Given that he isn't actually a player that would be normally involved or playing in the league, what action could they take? Unless he got like a TL ban or something of the sort.
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Siz)Beggar
Profile Joined May 2008
United States339 Posts
September 24 2013 06:08 GMT
#33
On September 24 2013 15:03 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 14:53 Siz)Beggar wrote:
On September 24 2013 14:47 Birdie wrote:
On September 24 2013 14:33 Siz)Beggar wrote:
On September 24 2013 13:46 Birdie wrote:
On September 24 2013 13:39 Siz)Beggar wrote:
On September 24 2013 13:38 Birdie wrote:
On September 24 2013 13:36 Siz)Beggar wrote:
On September 24 2013 11:52 LightningEdge wrote:
Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.

And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata.
and inf3cted is just the captain hes not playing i dont see the point in kicking people out of a community for one stupid decision.

The point is to make an example of cheaters, so that others don't think they'll get away with cheating.


he didnt cheat though he just smurfed ..

Yeah I'm pretty sure playing for another player without letting others know is cheating.


so lets kick what little players we have in the community out right? sounds great

We don't need cheaters in this community.

i can understand if this guy like ruined the whole league or something but you act as if they hadnt already taken some action towards him ... you act like hes savior fixing matches lol


Wait. Genuinely curious here. What action was taken against inf3cted?

Given that he isn't actually a player that would be normally involved or playing in the league, what action could they take? Unless he got like a TL ban or something of the sort.


didnt they reverse the score of all the matches he played in?
LightningEdge
Profile Joined January 2006
Singapore15 Posts
September 24 2013 06:35 GMT
#34
On September 24 2013 13:36 Siz)Beggar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 11:52 LightningEdge wrote:
Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.

And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata.


i dont see the problem with b- since c+ can take a game or two off of b- iccup is a horrible judgement of skill since people are either horrible or they are some what decent and lancerx has been the same rank since the beginning of iccup hes like a robot i've watched him lose to draws zerg like 5-0 when draws zerg was like c/c+ level and fold is around c/c+ level isnt he? and inf3cted is just the captain hes not playing i dont see the point in kicking people out of a community for one stupid decision.

and also i dont even see you in the crtl teams so why are you complaining ?


Why do I need to be a participant to question the integrity of the league? I am a spectator and I would like to make sure the participants will be playing in a fair league. And I'm sure I was not the only one with the same questions.

L3gendary is hosting this league of a certain skill cap to provide fun to these players just like the D Ranks Team League. If a player is already past the skill cut-off, the enjoyment of the league is lost to the other participants, thus the league loses its purpose.

Anyhow L3gendary quickly replied to the questions and clarified the situation that needed to be resolved before the league kicked off.

Concerning Inf3cted, he cheated not too long ago, screwed his team and wasted their time, never apologized, and still denies it. What could stop him from doing it again? It's not easy to catch a cheater in Brood war. Now L3gendary and his staff have to do double the work to keep an eye out for him and we will always question if his team is legitimately winning.
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
September 24 2013 06:38 GMT
#35
i don't understand why infected is in this leauge after being caught cheating, even not playing. if its only about sending in replays and submiting line ups then what does he really add to the team in the first place. but if somebody really wanted to cheat it doesn't really matter being in the team or not, so I personally don't have problems with it.

and i think the rules should change to "no b- are allowed at the moment of SIGNUP"

that should fix quite alot
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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
September 24 2013 06:40 GMT
#36
On September 24 2013 15:35 LightningEdge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 13:36 Siz)Beggar wrote:
On September 24 2013 11:52 LightningEdge wrote:
Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.

And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata.


i dont see the problem with b- since c+ can take a game or two off of b- iccup is a horrible judgement of skill since people are either horrible or they are some what decent and lancerx has been the same rank since the beginning of iccup hes like a robot i've watched him lose to draws zerg like 5-0 when draws zerg was like c/c+ level and fold is around c/c+ level isnt he? and inf3cted is just the captain hes not playing i dont see the point in kicking people out of a community for one stupid decision.

and also i dont even see you in the crtl teams so why are you complaining ?

Concerning Inf3cted, he cheated not too long ago, screwed his team and wasted their time, never apologized, and still denies it. What could stop him from doing it again? It's not easy to catch a cheater in Brood war. Now L3gendary and his staff have to do double the work to keep an eye out for him and we will always question if his team is legitimately winning.

Uhh, if inf3cted wanted to cheat, he could do it without being captain/coach. There are valid criticisms to his being on the team, but this is not one of them.
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-24 06:48:47
September 24 2013 06:48 GMT
#37
Why do people care if inf3cted is helping submit lineups and stuff if he is not playing? lol, relax people...

EDIT : didn't make enough emphasis on how much you all need to chill out, CHILL .
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
September 24 2013 08:52 GMT
#38
On September 24 2013 14:53 Siz)Beggar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 14:47 Birdie wrote:
On September 24 2013 14:33 Siz)Beggar wrote:
On September 24 2013 13:46 Birdie wrote:
On September 24 2013 13:39 Siz)Beggar wrote:
On September 24 2013 13:38 Birdie wrote:
On September 24 2013 13:36 Siz)Beggar wrote:
On September 24 2013 11:52 LightningEdge wrote:
Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.

And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata.
and inf3cted is just the captain hes not playing i dont see the point in kicking people out of a community for one stupid decision.

The point is to make an example of cheaters, so that others don't think they'll get away with cheating.


he didnt cheat though he just smurfed ..

Yeah I'm pretty sure playing for another player without letting others know is cheating.


so lets kick what little players we have in the community out right? sounds great

We don't need cheaters in this community.

i can understand if this guy like ruined the whole league or something but you act as if they hadnt already taken some action towards him ... you act like hes savior fixing matches lol


that's why people keep cheating... they see all that happens when they cheat is a slap on the wrist and "the community is too small anyways so don't actually punish him"
t0ssboy
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria681 Posts
September 24 2013 12:44 GMT
#39
Chill out guys.We don't need Infected to win this league.
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SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
September 24 2013 13:12 GMT
#40
Everyone is just angry that I'm actually B+
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