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dna88
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada28 Posts
December 01 2013 19:22 GMT
#341
[image loading]

proof of presence

no idea who is psi2]vesk0 it says not exist on iccup.
zimp
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary955 Posts
December 01 2013 20:16 GMT
#342
On December 02 2013 03:56 chrisolo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 03:34 zimp wrote:
On December 01 2013 21:05 chrisolo wrote:
No maybe you shoudl read again.

Following scenario

Player X with matchups ZvT ZvP and TvZ

against

Player Y with matchups PvT PvP and ZvZ

Then he wants to force Player Y to play PvZ instead of ZvZ. So he is forcing Player Y to play his offrace (he picked ZvZ for a reason right?) against the mainrace of Player X, which is simply unfair.

Fairest solution would be a (Player X) T vs Z (Player Y), where both players are forced to play their offrace. And still player X has a small advantage, as he intended to play TvZ, while Player Y has a complete offrace. But this is fairer than forcing PvZ anyways, imho.


sorry man but thats wrong again. you said it: "this matchup constellation is actually his mainrace" so if you force a T v Z in this situation than you still let X to play his picked main race while Y has to play his totall offrace, as an original P player he probably knows the less of the other two races' matchups (zvt).
btw maybe legendary did but i never said they should exactly play pvz, they can, or they can play tvz, its up to them i think, its just that one of them has to change race and it should be Y. but probably all Y player will decide to play PvZ here instead of a ZvT...


Sorry but discussing with you has no point when you cannot comprehend what I am saying.

lol

[image loading]
agentzimp
TL+ Member
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2609 Posts
December 01 2013 20:50 GMT
#343
Ye you have totally logically deconstructed it. You won, congratz.

+ Show Spoiler +
lol
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
Prodigy.MvP
Profile Joined September 2013
Canada176 Posts
December 01 2013 22:10 GMT
#344
hey im changing racce to protoss
im 15 years old folks!
L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-01 22:15:33
December 01 2013 22:13 GMT
#345
On December 01 2013 21:05 chrisolo wrote:
No maybe you shoudl read again.

Following scenario

Player X with matchups ZvT ZvP and TvZ

against

Player Y with matchups PvT PvP and ZvZ

Then he wants to force Player Y to play PvZ instead of ZvZ. So he is forcing Player Y to play his offrace (he picked ZvZ for a reason right?) against the mainrace of Player X, which is simply unfair.

Fairest solution would be a (Player X) T vs Z (Player Y), where both players are forced to play their offrace. And still player X has a small advantage, as he intended to play TvZ, while Player Y has a complete offrace. But this is fairer than forcing PvZ anyways, imho.


What makes you think player Y has any experience with ZvT? This would be a huge advantage for player X who is prepared for TvZ already. Forcing player X to TvZ isn't forcing him to offrace because that's the race he picked...And I didn't mean to say that sky would need to PvZ, he can ZvT I suppose but I would assume he'd rather PvZ since he's originally a protoss player. Bottom line is that he'd have to choose a matchup that works for the other player.
Watching Jaedong play purifies my eyes. -Coach Ju Hoon
fearthequeen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States788 Posts
December 01 2013 22:59 GMT
#346
psi2]corrupt no show week 10
[image loading]
NAKR`flying
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1202 Posts
December 02 2013 02:18 GMT
#347
On December 02 2013 07:13 L3gendary wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 21:05 chrisolo wrote:
No maybe you shoudl read again.

Following scenario

Player X with matchups ZvT ZvP and TvZ

against

Player Y with matchups PvT PvP and ZvZ

Then he wants to force Player Y to play PvZ instead of ZvZ. So he is forcing Player Y to play his offrace (he picked ZvZ for a reason right?) against the mainrace of Player X, which is simply unfair.

Fairest solution would be a (Player X) T vs Z (Player Y), where both players are forced to play their offrace. And still player X has a small advantage, as he intended to play TvZ, while Player Y has a complete offrace. But this is fairer than forcing PvZ anyways, imho.


What makes you think player Y has any experience with ZvT? This would be a huge advantage for player X who is prepared for TvZ already. Forcing player X to TvZ isn't forcing him to offrace because that's the race he picked...And I didn't mean to say that sky would need to PvZ, he can ZvT I suppose but I would assume he'd rather PvZ since he's originally a protoss player. Bottom line is that he'd have to choose a matchup that works for the other player.


Why not just settle it with a PVZ or TVT? Neither player has experience in either of those matchups.
Flash should fear Sacsri
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
December 02 2013 04:06 GMT
#348
On December 02 2013 07:10 Prodigy.MvP wrote:
hey im changing racce to protoss

no
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
STTB
Profile Joined December 2010
United States25 Posts
December 02 2013 06:29 GMT
#349
so dazed no showed also, i didnt take a picture cuzz im too good for that. But as we can see from dna88 pic, jacklinks is in channel and dazed is not. If dazed wants to play tomorrow or the next day im fine with that
im pacific timezone working 11am to 8 pm
msg me with times you can play dazed
fearthequeen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States788 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 08:52:17
December 02 2013 08:42 GMT
#350
Anyone know sB vs Team 6 result?

Also, what maps are going to be used for the playoffs?
NAKR`flying
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
December 02 2013 08:58 GMT
#351
On December 02 2013 17:42 fearthequeen wrote:
Anyone know sB vs Team 6 result?

Not finished yet, one game to go.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
t0ssboy
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria681 Posts
December 02 2013 14:58 GMT
#352
On December 02 2013 07:59 fearthequeen wrote:
psi2]corrupt no show week 10
[image loading]

Why did you take w.o when we discussed a PP?
Courage is doing what you are afraid to do.There can be no courage if there is no fear.
Prodigy.MvP
Profile Joined September 2013
Canada176 Posts
December 02 2013 17:03 GMT
#353
im changing race to protoss
im 15 years old folks!
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
December 02 2013 17:12 GMT
#354
On December 03 2013 02:03 Prodigy.MvP wrote:
im changing race to protoss

no
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10691 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 18:05:43
December 02 2013 18:05 GMT
#355
On December 03 2013 02:03 Prodigy.MvP wrote:
im changing race to protoss


lol, lose a game ? Switch your race, Win with Protoss? Must mean I should play Protoss! Let me let everyone know i'm switching races again! lol........You shouldn't be allowed to switch races in this tournament for the 15th time.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1202 Posts
December 02 2013 18:30 GMT
#356
anyone know how to get a hold of the hollowman?
Flash should fear Sacsri
fearthequeen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States788 Posts
December 02 2013 20:39 GMT
#357
On December 02 2013 23:58 t0ssboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 07:59 fearthequeen wrote:
psi2]corrupt no show week 10

Why did you take w.o when we discussed a PP?

If corrupt wants to contact me to play today/tomorrow he can. I only post that in case he doesn't. (because psi2 has been famously afk all season)
NAKR`flying
castleeMg
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada785 Posts
December 02 2013 23:04 GMT
#358
On December 02 2013 23:58 t0ssboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 07:59 fearthequeen wrote:
psi2]corrupt no show week 10
[image loading]

Why did you take w.o when we discussed a PP?


well no one contacted me or my teammates from pSi2 for a pp except for you after CRTL already started. as much as i don't like taking walkovers i dislike chasing team members around trying to schedule game times even more.
AKA: castle[eMg]@USEast/ iCCup
Prodigy.MvP
Profile Joined September 2013
Canada176 Posts
December 03 2013 10:00 GMT
#359
im changing race to protoss
im 15 years old folks!
Corrupt
Profile Joined August 2009
Bulgaria1312 Posts
December 03 2013 12:17 GMT
#360
My apologies for not showing on sunday. Didn't realize I was on the line-up for week 10. In fact, I wasn't even supposed to participate in this tournament like, at all.. it was mr. Inf3cted who signed me in without telling. To tell the truth, besides the scheduled CRTL games I wasn't even able to touch Brood War during those weeks. :\

P.S.
Sent you a PM, fearthequeen
Just a guy trying to enjoy living in the worst timeline and failing miserably since 1990.
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