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On July 24 2013 18:51 pebble444 wrote:
I have another idea, tell me what you people think about it.
To implement, based on Birdie' s ranking system, that players who want to play in the week, play each other based on their ranking. The objective is to match people with actual same skill level. In other words, if a player is ranked #3 from on team, he will play the top #rank from the other team, and so on until the end.
As for maps, they could be organized the first week by having every top/ second/third/fourth/fifth/sixt rank maps decided, and then going down in a loop
Example #1 week Fs top, #2 week FS second, etc.
This idea is based around the swiss system of matching people to play
The downside is this would kinda break the sporting "lineups and i don' t know who i will be facing until LU are out" . With this system you are much more likely to know who is playing.
The upside is it would allow people to play more against a similar rank to theirs. Obviously Birdie would have to make an August D ranking system, like the one he did past september. I was studying that one and i could see similar players in similar spots.
On another note, i would really like ACE matches to be again
Sorry, I think this is a terrible idea. Having people play each other based on rank within teams is silly.
And you people want 815 in the map pool? Are you people serious, or crazy?
Courage does not have enough people to make a team of "Red Ds" or however you want to call it. We would struggle to to get a full team of "yellow Ds" as well.
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On July 25 2013 06:53 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 18:51 pebble444 wrote:
I have another idea, tell me what you people think about it.
To implement, based on Birdie' s ranking system, that players who want to play in the week, play each other based on their ranking. The objective is to match people with actual same skill level. In other words, if a player is ranked #3 from on team, he will play the top #rank from the other team, and so on until the end.
As for maps, they could be organized the first week by having every top/ second/third/fourth/fifth/sixt rank maps decided, and then going down in a loop
Example #1 week Fs top, #2 week FS second, etc.
This idea is based around the swiss system of matching people to play
The downside is this would kinda break the sporting "lineups and i don' t know who i will be facing until LU are out" . With this system you are much more likely to know who is playing.
The upside is it would allow people to play more against a similar rank to theirs. Obviously Birdie would have to make an August D ranking system, like the one he did past september. I was studying that one and i could see similar players in similar spots.
On another note, i would really like ACE matches to be again Sorry, I think this is a terrible idea. Having people play each other based on rank within teams is silly. And you people want 815 in the map pool? Are you people serious, or crazy? Courage does not have enough people to make a team of "Red Ds" or however you want to call it. We would struggle to to get a full team of "yellow Ds" as well.
You should put RH3 in the map pool too imo.
>_>
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Yeah lets put other maps like Troy and Plasma in too. Or maybe that one map with all the Dwebs on the map.
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On July 25 2013 06:57 Sentenal wrote:
Yeah lets put other maps like Troy and Plasma in too. Or maybe that one map with all the Dwebs on the map.
I think RH3 Geometry, Nostalgia, umm. Longinus or something maybe.
and yes DMZ!!
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On July 25 2013 06:57 Sentenal wrote:
Yeah lets put other maps like Troy and Plasma in too. Or maybe that one map with all the Dwebs on the map.
I prefer the idea of tracking maps roughly with what SOSPA is doing. Especially when there exist a plethora of modern VODs of games on the map it's not that unreasonable to do, and not something that would require weeks of practice. It's also a single map.
If people were that busy and unable to learn a new map a team could specialize with one player putting in some extra time on said map.
We would struggle to to get a full team of "yellow Ds" as well.
Courage fielded a team in the last C league no? I guess it was called School of Wala, but wasn't that heavily composed of courage players? Add in free agents and you easily have a yellow team.
Finding other C players is not a problem at all. There are lots of free agent players that are C-/C.
Courage does not have enough people to make a team of "Red Ds" or however you want to call it.
THIS is the issue. Are there enough free agents that are D-/D/D+ that would come out of the woodwork to play. I think most teams have between 2-4 D/D+ players, so if we wanted 6 teams we would probably need 20, maybe 30 sign-ups from D rank players.
That happened at one time, but I'm not so sure it will happen now.
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School of Wala and Courage aren't really the same team. If Courage got merged with them, we would basically get like... 2 new members, both of whom are Bish. Also, with the way our team works, "free agents" probably wouldn't ever play (nor would we even want them), since Courage is made up entirely of people within a sub-community of TeamLiquid.
Anyway, I think its a bad idea to put retarded POS maps into the pool for no reason other than "they are different". If you want to put 815, have fun, but know that its going to be the map that no one ever wants to play.
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The only Courage player who played more than 3 games for School of Wala was me. Both Courage and School of Wala will probably never return because players are leaving in droves for other games such as Dota2 and CS:GO. The only active player in our channel anymore is Fold.
EDIT: And my bro sMi.tonight.
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On July 25 2013 07:20 Sentenal wrote:
School of Wala and Courage aren't really the same team. Courage got merged with them, we would basically get like... 2 new members, both of whom are Bish. Also, with the way our team works, "free agents" probably wouldn't ever play (nor would we even want them), since Courage is made up entirely of people within a sub-community of TeamLiquid.
Anyway, I think its a bad idea to put retarded POS maps into the pool for no reason other than "they are different". If you want to put 815, have fun, but know that its going to be the map that no one ever wants to play.
Okay, I didn't realize this. Thanks for the info.
As far as maps, the reason for 815 is not because it is different, but rather, because it is what the current "pro" scene is using. As mentioned earlier if it turns out everyone despises 815 and all the games are garbage, then the map would likely be removed after 2-3 weeks.
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On July 25 2013 07:22 EchOne wrote:
The only Courage player who played more than 3 games for School of Wala was me. Both Courage and School of Wala will probably never return because players are leaving in droves for other games such as Dota2 and CS:GO. The only active player in our channel anymore is Fold.
EDIT: And my bro sMi.tonight.
sup bro
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i thought the second number is just the rank out of the total players, ie i'm rank 1096 out of 18,000 players? my actual "rating" is 27, or 33.968 ± 6.904, the second number being the confidence
+ Show Spoiler +27
me
23
L3gendary 30.109 ± 6.866
22
sGs.Lmaster 31.110 ± 8.124
mG.arb 30.132 ± 7.492
aeghrur 31.584 ± 9.365
21
ImAtTheBeach 29.218 ± 7.283
sB.Birdie 28.742 ± 6.868
Rlentless 28.794 ± 7.243
prophecy_ 9 31.727 ± 10.201
Miss.Click.. 28.639 ± 7.342
mSj[Holy] 30.884 ± 9.774
20
sGs.BaBo 28.321 ± 7.366
NewJetCity 28.443 ± 7.494
CityShuffle 34.990 ± 14.309
SniperTerran
Mellial
sGs.Gorg
19
cowboyspc94
Maciej
mSj[naxel]
Arca(Crema)
18
[BB]KaiGreene
so it looks like the best iccup players of last season are around 22.. you could say that the hard limit is a rating of 20 with at least 40 games played or until the confidence is under ± 7 or something
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On July 25 2013 08:18 rauk wrote:i thought the second number is just the rank out of the total players, ie i'm rank 1096 out of 18,000 players? my actual "rating" is 27, or 33.968 ± 6.904, the second number being the confidence + Show Spoiler +27
me
23
L3gendary 30.109 ± 6.866
22
sGs.Lmaster 31.110 ± 8.124
mG.arb 30.132 ± 7.492
aeghrur 31.584 ± 9.365
21
ImAtTheBeach 29.218 ± 7.283
sB.Birdie 28.742 ± 6.868
Rlentless 28.794 ± 7.243
prophecy_ 9 31.727 ± 10.201
Miss.Click.. 28.639 ± 7.342
mSj[Holy] 30.884 ± 9.774
20
sGs.BaBo 28.321 ± 7.366
NewJetCity 28.443 ± 7.494
CityShuffle 34.990 ± 14.309
SniperTerran
Mellial
sGs.Gorg
19
cowboyspc94
Maciej
mSj[naxel]
Arca(Crema)
18
[BB]KaiGreene so it looks like the best iccup players of last season are around 22.. you could say that the hard limit is a rating of 20 with at least 40 games played or until the confidence is under ± 7 or something
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35.573 ± 10.372 1606 27 ][-][ero P C− 25-2 unknown
I guess that's why you and BaBo should not be paying DR anymore xD
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815 was removed from the SOSPA map pool in favour of matchpoint.
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Bring back Andromeda or Medusa. =]
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Rank: D
ICCUP account: jjwhg
Race: P
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How does the racial distribution look in this thing nowadays?
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On July 26 2013 02:21 Nikon wrote:
How does the racial distribution look in this thing nowadays?
D rank could definitely use a Bulgarian Zerg Mr. Nikon 
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DBHS should field a team!
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On July 26 2013 01:01 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
Bring back Andromeda or Medusa. =]
Or Electric Circuit!!!
I wouldn't mind if any of those replaced Pamir or FS...
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First of all: Y U NO ALLOW RANDOM? =(
And for the sake of organisation please keep a list of all iccup and/or TL nicks for the players in the OP. This is because some people have different nicks everywhere and it’s hard to distinguish between all those unknown nicks. This list doesn’t need to be complete (some guys don’t have a TL account) but it would be nice to have at least some help distinguishing the players. At least for me  (was I the only one who didn’t know most players last season?)
I’m back on DeSPA!
For reference:
ICCUP & TL nicks: Biolunar
Rank: D (still haven’t played a ladder match in my bw career :D)
Race: Terran
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Sun Khan is recruiting!!!!
we lost a lot of players after the end of season 4, and we are recruiting to fill those slots! Send a pm to Pebble (TL ID: Pebble444) to apply!
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