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L1ghtning
Sweden353 Posts
 L1ghtning (C) Floladriblere (PvZ) (C) sGsFabiano CoughingHydra michamicha pivert94These are the only players we have been able to confirm. Anyway, I will use this tl account from now on, to prevent confusion, as some new players had complains about it being hard to figure out what tl nick was connected to what iccup nick. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
Consider the whole issue and precedent, but also to be clear a vote of "yes" means sB splitting is ok, "no" means it is not. Poll: Should a team be allowed to split in half into two teams? Yes (53) No (51) 104 total votes Your vote: Should a team be allowed to split in half into two teams? On August 06 2013 05:31 Cpt.beefy wrote: This question is pretty stupid... I assume it has to do with SB's proposed dividing in 2. Which would mean make the real poll question this. Can a team split in two to secure play time for its members? No, this question asks the core question. A ruling against Arca/Marine forming a second team sets a precedent that a player may not leave his own team to start another because that is exactly what I would be doing: preventing two sB members from starting a different team. That is really the question I'm asking too, I have some idea where people stand on the specific sB instance, but I want to know what the players of the league think overall about whether or not people should be allowed to leave a team to start a new one | ||
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Cpt.beefy
Ireland799 Posts
On August 06 2013 05:35 L_Master wrote: IMPORTANT POLL CONCERNING NEW TEAMS/sB Poll: Can players that have been on a team leave to start another? Yes (11) No (6) 17 total votes Your vote: Can players that have been on a team leave to start another? No, this question asks the core question. A ruling against Arca/Marine forming a second team sets a precedent that a player may not leave his own team to start another because that is exactly what I would be doing: preventing two sB members from starting a different team. That is really the question I'm asking too, I have some idea where people stand on the specific sB instance, but I want to know what the players of the league think overall about whether or not people should be allowed to leave a team to start a new one but its nota new team proposed ur question has nothing too do with this situation. Its not 1or 2 players starting afresh its a team dividing with the captains already been decided. Do u understand? Its not a new team. Theres no scoutin n work involved in making the team. Its a team spliting cos or size. The new team wouldnt be call SB 2.0 but it will be full of ex sB members not new agents. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On August 06 2013 05:45 Cpt.beefy wrote: but its nota new team proposed ur question has nothing too do with this situation. Its not 1or 2 players starting afresh its a team dividing with the captains already been decided. Do u understand? Its not a new team. Theres no scoutin n work involved in making the team. Its a team spliting cos or size. The new team wouldnt be call SB 2.0 but it will be full of ex sB members not new agents. First, I will say I put a clarifier in the poll to make it clear this also concerns the sB issue so that no one gets overly confused. Its not 1or 2 players starting afresh Arca and TheMarine are the only two sB players going to the new team. The rest will be free agents, so in this case it really is just two players. The new team wouldnt be call SB 2.0 but it will be full of ex sB members not new agents. I actually do see where you are going with this, but as I have been informed so far it is only Arca and TheMarine leaving, making up the rest of the team with recruits and/or people from the draft. | ||
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Cpt.beefy
Ireland799 Posts
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On August 06 2013 06:02 Cpt.beefy wrote: Birdie has stated and it was the only reason i objected. That arca n marine would be leaving if they hit 14 members SB would split n arca and marine would go with 5 others to start a new team. To ensure its fair for all to get a game. I cant construct a post with the quotes. but if you show me were it says arca n marine wanna leave SB n make a brand new team from scratch i'd appricate it. On July 30 2013 08:41 Birdie wrote: We're basically in that position, in that it would be Arca and probably TheMarine running the second team, and the members would be new people to sB, so in that sense they're not longtime friends. This means recruits as I read it, and is where I am taking my info + from what Birdie has told me in Skype while talking to him. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On August 01 2013 21:11 Birdie wrote: As I said before, the team that Arca and TheMarine are going to run is already essentially complete; but for the split to go ahead, sB that I'm running needs a couple more players. If we can't find any more then the split won't happen. Right now Arca and TheMarine are not captains of any team, I'm captain of around 11 players. If I find 3 more people to join my team then I will request for Arca and TheMarine to leave along with 5 other players, to form their own team for the duration of this league. Then there will be their team and my team. Right now, there is only my team, and I am recruiting for them, and I am allowed to recruit as many as I want for them. I'm not recruiting them for Arca/Marine's team, I'm recruiting them for my team, Team Stealth Bunnies. What's going to happen is a team SPLIT, not arca/marine leaving to form a new team per se. It'll be half of an old team forming a new team, not two players forming a new team. They will be their own team, don't get me wrong, they're running it not me (gl with that guys ;D). Until the team is split, I'm in charge. | ||
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Cpt.beefy
Ireland799 Posts
On August 01 2013 20:12 Birdie wrote: I'm not taking any free agent players (except RulZBoooM might have been a free agent), I'm talking to friends of mine which I've played with and practice partners and so on. The team was already too large for one team, so it's easier for me to recruit a couple more players and split it into two so everyone gets more game time and there's more teams in the league. This also lets Arca and TheMarine have the experience of running a team, which is both very fun and a good learning experience for all sorts of different skills. I think that's fine, yup. I won't be running the team they run. L_Master has said that as long as I'm not running the other team and the rosters are separate, it's fine, and I agree with him; I no longer want to run both teams, and separate rosters is of course necessary. This is wat the split is Lmaster , n its posted after your quote. This is what i object too. Not a player starting a new team. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
That certainly does change the read some Did not realize the split would be taking so many sB members to the new team. Perhaps what Birdie meant by new recruits is these people he is trying to recruit now between seasons who have essentially never played on sB would be the ones going to the new team. Arca and the Marine taking a bunch of new guys Birdie grabbed in the last week is indeed a little different than them taking say Icedraco, Taeyoon, and another random guy or three. EDIT: I think the poll is still correct though, as the wording explains that a yes vote means ok with sB splitting. If you don't think it is clear enough, feel free to suggest an alternate wording and I could restart it. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On August 06 2013 05:13 L_Master wrote: Please tell me I read this wrong. Please + Show Spoiler + Well, it is D Rank, so maybe I would forgive you here. D Rank TvT not quite the same as progamer TvT  Forgive me? hehe. No need, it is a snooze fest XD I think biomech would be more fun in TvT but I doubt anyone would go that route. You are correct though. Rank D TvT is pretty boring to watch, not sure about play though since I usually avoid TvT. On August 06 2013 06:15 L_Master wrote: This means recruits as I read it, and is where I am taking my info + from what Birdie has told me in Skype while talking to him. They are correct. Birdie did state that once the team got big enough, they'll split and that he has already recruited people for the teams so ya, 2 teams but under the same banner and such. | ||
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Cpt.beefy
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
On August 06 2013 06:30 Cpt.beefy wrote: Your out ou touch or been wormtongued lmaster. haha@wormtongued | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On August 06 2013 06:30 Cpt.beefy wrote: Your out ou touch or been wormtongued lmaster. Nah, I'm not too concerned. Sentenal just posted a more up to date version, and I can understand what may have been meant by "new recuits". The important thing is that the poll is correct, and given that I say: "also to be clear a vote of "yes" means sB splitting is ok, "no" means it is not." I think the poll should be clear to the issue at hand. As stated before, if you don't think it is clear let me know and suggest an alternate wording; though to be honest I'm not sure how I can be much more clear than "yes means sB splitting is ok" | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On August 06 2013 06:25 L_Master wrote: That certainly does change the read some Did not realize the split would be taking so many sB members to the new team. Perhaps what Birdie meant by new recruits is these people he is trying to recruit now between seasons who have essentially never played on sB would be the ones going to the new team. Arca and the Marine taking a bunch of new guys Birdie grabbed in the last week is indeed a little different than them taking say Icedraco, Taeyoon, and another random guy or three. EDIT: I think the poll is still correct though, as the wording explains that a yes vote means ok with sB splitting. If you don't think it is clear enough, feel free to suggest an alternate wording and I could restart it. According to what he said, he isn't going to send the new members to TheMarine's team. Hes going to do it volunteerily. The players he is recruiting right now are for his Stealth Bunnies. Additionally, the players he is recruiting right now are friends and practice partners of his. TBH, I think the poll should just get remade. You have the caption above it, the poll question itself doesn't say anything about that, and some people just don't read everything. The poll question doesn't reflect the situation or what Birdie is wanting to do. If I were to reword it, I would say "Should a team be allowed to split in half into two teams?" | ||
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
On August 06 2013 06:37 Sentenal wrote: According to what he said, he isn't going to send the new members to TheMarine's team. Hes going to do it volunteerily. The players he is recruiting right now are for his Stealth Bunnies. Additionally, the players he is recruiting right now are friends and practice partners of his. TBH, I think the poll should just get remade. The poll question doesn't reflect the situation or what Birdie is wanting to do. If I were to reword it, I would say "Should a team be allowed to split in half into two teams?" This right here | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
Also tonight, I don't know if you were being facetious about playing or not but: http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/sMi.tonight.html - It's not happening. | ||
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