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On July 06 2013 04:17 dRaW wrote: I don't know why people doubting michael, he will win np. The closesst m.u here is skzlime/julia, rest are easily predictable.
well i love sayle's casting but i really hope Elegant comes back to casting. Two hosts are just that much more convinient. Also the observing tends to be better. :>
On July 07 2013 05:06 Darth Saros wrote: Koreans had JvZ...we have SvZ. I still remember that screaming moron Terror being scared shitless to play Sziky on fish not so long ago.
On July 07 2013 05:24 KristofferAG wrote: I don't get this early scout?
Did he like wanted to go delayed CC first after making sure there was no 5 Pool? As weird as it sounds, that's the least weird explanation I can think of. He went Barracks first, though, so nothing really made sense there.
Skyline plays as if he was heavily drunk or maybe had high fever. Or super-tired. I just can't believe it's his usual form.
Well, Day 2 is soon about to start. Frankly, I don't know shit about those guys' form and map preferences, so my predictions are from the heart of my bottom... or other way around, dunno. Plz don't die in awfully stupid ways anymore, dear participants!
Terror < Neo Jade > Michael Terror < Match Point > Michael Terror < New Wind and Cloud > Michael Terror < Outsider > Michael Terror < Fighting Spirit > Michael
Technics < Neo Jade > Draw Technics < Match Point > Draw Technics < New Wind and Cloud > Draw Technics < Outsider > Draw Technics < Fighting Spirit > Draw
Desperately want a) more games b) closer games c) at least one non-Zerg in semis.
Terror's army composition early on was gosu so when he lost that M&M breakthrough force I was shocked. But what Michael did at the end was super-shocking. Such no-flank, no-Lurker suicide. Cool game to watch, but Zerg's decisions were awful.
Wouldn't normal Lurker / Ling be good against bio/mech? I mean, as long as there are many Goliaths instead of Tanks it should be reasonably effective. Michael massed Mutas, but that's as bad composition as you can get. Unless you counterattack...
Wow, that was an awesome game. The +2 carapace upgrade on the mutas made them unstoppable.
On July 08 2013 05:15 wingpawn wrote: Wouldn't normal Lurker / Ling be good against bio/mech? I mean, as long as there are many Goliaths instead of Tanks it should be reasonably effective. Michael massed Mutas, but that's as bad composition as you can get. Unless you counterattack...
Yeah, I feel like lurker/ling would do really well against that sort of bio/mech composition, but if there were lurkers then Terran would just make more tanks instead.
Well let us clear up some confusion here: - The +2 carapace was a HUGE upgrade advantage, and Terror didn't have a 2nd gas therefore he had to abandon goliath production for a cycle to get the upgrade since he forgot or mistakenly chose not to get upgrades, which was really odd considering how well he did doing this on Jade, the +1 armor is also essential for Terrors biomech strat - Michael wasn't as behind early as Sayle put it, there was alot of SCV's killed in a counter attack that Sayle didn't have on camera - Michael was vastly ahead after he traded his army for Terrors at the initial attack, biomech is not something that can transition smoothly unless you do damage and terror didn't even force mass sunken or kill alot or drones or even the third (this was amplified further by the upgrade advantage) - Lastly, mass muta is apparently not a bad choice vs this style, GGaemo tried the same and failed vs flash on outlier and he might have won vs a lesser terran
On July 08 2013 05:20 garbanzo wrote: Wow, that was an awesome game. The +2 carapace upgrade on the mutas made them unstoppable.
On July 08 2013 05:15 wingpawn wrote: Wouldn't normal Lurker / Ling be good against bio/mech? I mean, as long as there are many Goliaths instead of Tanks it should be reasonably effective. Michael massed Mutas, but that's as bad composition as you can get. Unless you counterattack...
Yeah, I feel like lurker/ling would do really well against that sort of bio/mech composition, but if there were lurkers then Terran would just make more tanks instead.
Lings are really, really bad vs goliaths if not ahead vs goliaths and if the zerg goes too heavy on lurkers it just becomes a 2 fact tank 5-6 raxx push with 8 or so goliaths
On July 08 2013 03:24 wingpawn wrote: Well, Day 2 is soon about to start. Frankly, I don't know shit about those guys' form and map preferences, so my predictions are from the heart of my bottom... or other way around, dunno. Plz don't die in awfully stupid ways anymore, dear participants!
Terror < Neo Jade > Michael Terror < Match Point > Michael Terror < New Wind and Cloud > Michael Terror < Outsider > Michael Terror < Fighting Spirit > Michael
Technics < Neo Jade > Draw Technics < Match Point > Draw Technics < New Wind and Cloud > Draw Technics < Outsider > Draw Technics < Fighting Spirit > Draw
Desperately want a) more games b) closer games c) at least one non-Zerg in semis.
On July 08 2013 03:24 wingpawn wrote: Well, Day 2 is soon about to start. Frankly, I don't know shit about those guys' form and map preferences, so my predictions are from the heart of my bottom... or other way around, dunno. Plz don't die in awfully stupid ways anymore, dear participants!
Terror < Neo Jade > Michael Terror < Match Point > Michael Terror < New Wind and Cloud > Michael Terror < Outsider > Michael Terror < Fighting Spirit > Michael
Technics < Neo Jade > Draw Technics < Match Point > Draw Technics < New Wind and Cloud > Draw Technics < Outsider > Draw Technics < Fighting Spirit > Draw
Desperately want a) more games b) closer games c) at least one non-Zerg in semis.
You clearly haven't seen Draw play enough.
He wil 3-1 Technics for sure!
Technics is damn good as well. DraW is going to have his hands seriously full if he wants to win this one.
Just posting to say the Sayle is absolutely awesome and I'm so glad he's casting these BW games. Will never be able to get over proleague bw being gone but events like this are amazing and really fun to watch. Thank you to everyone who is involved.
On July 08 2013 06:00 cha0 wrote: Just posting to say the Sayle is absolutely awesome and I'm so glad he's casting these BW games. Will never be able to get over proleague bw being gone but events like this are amazing and really fun to watch. Thank you to everyone who is involved.
I heartily agree! Also, we need more Kiante (and SirJolt)!
On July 08 2013 06:23 BigFan wrote: GG dRaW! Game 1 was good although that earlier zealot attack was suicidal lol
Yeah, he really stepped up with control and multitasking after that failure. Technics with no pressure for himself whatsoever.
Technics should really stop messing around with that pure Hydra. It works when you are the agressor, but for defense against diverse Toss army with Storms doesn't do much. Maybe a Spire and some Scourge to take out Observers and Shuttles?
On July 08 2013 06:28 KristofferAG wrote: Shit, I had to go sort out my meds, how did dRaW win that?
Made one fairly poor attack that killed some Drones and Evo that was upgrading +1 Carapace, then got tons of reinforcements being on 3 bases against 4 and attacked again before enough Lurkers came into play. Plus he made some cute Stormdrops and stormed the shit out of Ling reinforcements. Overall, tons of pressure + multitasking and spellcasting gave him 1-0.
On July 08 2013 06:40 L3gendary wrote: Really nice games today. Go draw! no zvz finals plz.
I just realized that this is what happens if dRaW wins this series. Would be the perfect scenario - we will have both a TvZ or PvZ finals and 3rd place~
On July 08 2013 06:42 _Animus_ wrote: Tech shold have made some lings to tank goon shots, he lost too many hydras to defend from upcoming zealot attack. I really dont understand.
But he didn't have ling speed due to his gasless 5 hatch. The lings would've been useless.
On July 08 2013 06:43 wingpawn wrote: Couldn't he just make 2-3 Sunkens and survive that? Also, big blooper not having any Overlords at main.
If you're facing a goon all-in, hydras should win, then you keep pumping hydras and bust the Protoss. So sunks would be wasted minerals in that scenario, maybe.
On July 08 2013 06:42 _Animus_ wrote: Tech shold have made some lings to tank goon shots, he lost too many hydras to defend from upcoming zealot attack. I really dont understand.
But he didn't have ling speed due to his gasless 5 hatch. The lings would've been useless.
Goons are slow and also he will have to move them much much more leading to less shots to the zerg army. look how one zlow zealot made hidras run for example.
On July 08 2013 06:48 VGhost wrote: At this point it's pretty clear Draw had a build prepared specifically for every game. I'm not sure TechnicS prepared at all.
i think that too and having close 2-1 with sziky its clear he is capable of destroying TechnicS
Weird gg. Draw seemed even, maybe even ahead, since Technics was only taking mineral expos for a while, and Draw was building a hefty count of tech units (even though there wasn't much bulk to the army).
WOW, i thought TechnicS nerves are gone, but what an desperate end of that game from Draw. Its really that moment in the game where your brain is hurting and you cant even think how to follow up your game and you just give up.
Must have been a frustration gg. Maybe from the harass not paying off... except the reason the harass wasn't paying off is that Technics was barely expanding at all, so there weren't openings.
I don't think the lack of leg speed matters right now, to me it seems like draw's strategy is more about turtling on 3 base w/ fast double upgrades for a hanbang, and only needs leg speed when he pushes out
doom drop lands in main! swarm and cracklings technics loses his 7th, and-- ahhhh infinite stream of zerg draw trying to hold bottom left BARELY HOLDS but more zerg coming losing those gateways in main has slowed draws reinforcing ability
Nicelly played TechnicS! Feel a bit sad for Draw tho, he has put alot of preparation and it not made the result. However it made epic series, wich is one of the best games in the TLS, so grats to him too. Your work is not going to be unvalued dude, keep fighing!
On July 08 2013 08:07 BulgarianToss wrote: Taking 2 games off TechnicS is fucking impressive, nice play Draw. Both series today were epic and we had some amazing games, I am glad, GG's!
no the loss to technics is a huge upset, i just tilted in W+C and played like shit and didn't use my prepared build order on outsider. I am tired of you idiots who say this crap, I didn't lose to technics, I lost to myself.
no the loss to technics is a huge upset, i just tilted in W+C and played like shit and didn't use my prepared build order on outsider. I am tired of you idiots who say this crap, I didn't lose to technics, I lost to myself.
I have just seen the second series and it was fucking amazing! Hopefully will have time to watch the first one tomorrow, sadly I have a paper to write.
On July 08 2013 08:07 BulgarianToss wrote: Taking 2 games off TechnicS is fucking impressive, nice play Draw. Both series today were epic and we had some amazing games, I am glad, GG's!
no the loss to technics is a huge upset, i just tilted in W+C and played like shit and didn't use my prepared build order on outsider. I am tired of you idiots who say this crap, I didn't lose to technics, I lost to myself.
On July 08 2013 08:07 BulgarianToss wrote: Taking 2 games off TechnicS is fucking impressive, nice play Draw. Both series today were epic and we had some amazing games, I am glad, GG's!
no the loss to technics is a huge upset, i just tilted in W+C and played like shit and didn't use my prepared build order on outsider. I am tired of you idiots who say this crap, I didn't lose to technics, I lost to myself.
On July 08 2013 08:07 BulgarianToss wrote: Taking 2 games off TechnicS is fucking impressive, nice play Draw. Both series today were epic and we had some amazing games, I am glad, GG's!
no the loss to technics is a huge upset, i just tilted in W+C and played like shit and didn't use my prepared build order on outsider. I am tired of you idiots who say this crap, I didn't lose to technics, I lost to myself.
The guy was giving you a compliment and you call him an idiot. On top of it, you don't give Technics the credit he deserves for playing better than you. Classy.
On July 08 2013 08:07 BulgarianToss wrote: Taking 2 games off TechnicS is fucking impressive, nice play Draw. Both series today were epic and we had some amazing games, I am glad, GG's!
no the loss to technics is a huge upset, i just tilted in W+C and played like shit and didn't use my prepared build order on outsider. I am tired of you idiots who say this crap, I didn't lose to technics, I lost to myself.
The guy was giving you a compliment and you call him an idiot. On top of it, you don't give Technics the credit he deserves for playing better than you. Classy.
Oh this is for realz? I was assuming he was being sarcastic... D:
On July 08 2013 08:07 BulgarianToss wrote: Taking 2 games off TechnicS is fucking impressive, nice play Draw. Both series today were epic and we had some amazing games, I am glad, GG's!
no the loss to technics is a huge upset, i just tilted in W+C and played like shit and didn't use my prepared build order on outsider. I am tired of you idiots who say this crap, I didn't lose to technics, I lost to myself.
The guy was giving you a compliment and you call him an idiot. On top of it, you don't give Technics the credit he deserves for playing better than you. Classy.
it's a pretty backhanded compliment to say it's impressive that draw is even capable of taking games off technics
On July 08 2013 08:07 BulgarianToss wrote: Taking 2 games off TechnicS is fucking impressive, nice play Draw. Both series today were epic and we had some amazing games, I am glad, GG's!
no the loss to technics is a huge upset, i just tilted in W+C and played like shit and didn't use my prepared build order on outsider. I am tired of you idiots who say this crap, I didn't lose to technics, I lost to myself.
The guy was giving you a compliment and you call him an idiot. On top of it, you don't give Technics the credit he deserves for playing better than you. Classy.
What he said could very easily be taken as an insult, an underhanded way of saying "You aren't good enough to win, but hey at least you gave it a run!". Totally depends on context from Wallace saying that though, if all he knows is that TechnicS is crazy good, then it's definitely a compliment.
Sorta disagree on the second sentence too, though not entirely. It's perfectly reasonable from someone to say they played poorly. If I go run a mile and split 57, 68, 80, 95 and lose it is quite accurate to say I beat myself by running stupid. It implies nothing about whether the other guy could or could not beat me if I ran smarter.
why did draw do that D:, he was doing so well, even in the last game he could have won but he did so many mistakes, it was painful T_T, now i think that Technnics is definitely going to beat Terror
On July 08 2013 08:07 BulgarianToss wrote: Taking 2 games off TechnicS is fucking impressive, nice play Draw. Both series today were epic and we had some amazing games, I am glad, GG's!
no the loss to technics is a huge upset, i just tilted in W+C and played like shit and didn't use my prepared build order on outsider. I am tired of you idiots who say this crap, I didn't lose to technics, I lost to myself.
LOL. I would've bet all I have on Technics. Just saying.
I don't know if it's of any significance, but I logged on Draw's stream for few minutes like 24h before his TLS match where he was supposed to be 'The Last Hope Of Protoss Race'. On Saturday, he was streaming one of his practice games. It was PvP...
On a more serious note, I'm happy that my predictions proved to be fairly accurate and that Sunday madness redeemed Saturday boner kills. Terror vs Technics series sounds like a great prospect. And last shoutout to Sayle, who not only didn't make any mistakes in game analysis but also was able to get really excited without losing good flow. Great job!
Terror will have to prepare just T vs Z even for semifinal , final or 3-4 spot... So it`s fine for him. I expect some crazy builds because in a str8 game i think he will loose bad.
On July 08 2013 08:07 BulgarianToss wrote: Taking 2 games off TechnicS is fucking impressive, nice play Draw. Both series today were epic and we had some amazing games, I am glad, GG's!
no the loss to technics is a huge upset, i just tilted in W+C and played like shit and didn't use my prepared build order on outsider. I am tired of you idiots who say this crap, I didn't lose to technics, I lost to myself.
Didn't mean it as an insult, you really showed great play that no other foreign protoss could perform atm in my opinion. It goes both ways, the way TechnicS made a comeback was obviously impressive too.
Sziky is a one man murder machine who refuses to be stopped. The day somebody rises to meet him on his plane of brilliance and forces him to no longer stand alone is the day we witness BW glory.