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On January 13 2013 23:20 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2013 20:02 mca64[KDV] wrote:On December 12 2012 05:29 sluggaslamoo wrote:On December 12 2012 05:04 mca64[KDV] wrote:On December 12 2012 04:50 L_Master wrote:On December 12 2012 04:36 mca64[KDV] wrote:On December 12 2012 04:32 Zergneedsfood wrote:On December 12 2012 04:26 mca64[KDV] wrote:On December 12 2012 03:01 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Why ban Fold? cause his skill isnt C level? also i and few others from this KOTH cant play with him - even on extra high latency game isnt playable How do you know? He hasn't gone above C level on iCCup has he? Rush[pain] also couldnt go higher than c+, does it mean he is C skill player? You said couldn't, not didn't. Couldn't implies by it's usage that he tried to and failed. Clearly if you try and get B- but can't get it your not B-. Folds case is different because he hasn't laddered that much on iccup but there really isn't that much evidence to say he is clearly a blue rank. He didn't even get the win in YSL. sorry my english isnt too good. Fold was in YSL final, in semi he raped dr shrinker who got b- last season. Last time fold won one game with predator, who is A- player on NW, 2 games with julia (also a-) etc etc. How c-/c guy gonna win with him? also he plays toss, which is imba on low level ranks Can you like, please stop being an idiot? We see this shit in D Rank Tours all the time and all it really does is show how immature the community is. He worked his ass off to get where he was in the YSL final and he worked his ass off to prepare for NW. Its not fold's fault his opponent underestimated him. Basically there's nothing to be gained from doing well in a tournament because people will think you are high rank when you are really not. He has tried to be higher than C ranks and never made it. What does that mean? It means he's not fucking B rank. Also, its fucking KOTH, who gives a shit? Deal with it. Sorry we won't play fold in NW anymore because it makes him look too good. And guys nobody take tours seriously and prepare builds, because there's a big chance you won't get to play in the next one. -_- Sorry posters like this make me rage hard. http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/pjyhwaiting.htmlyou are stupid noob. When i said he is blue rank thats means he is blue rank. Deal it You are stupid noob, he got it yesterday and then posted a blog about it. Up until then he had not gotten blue rank. Deal with it. Stupid noob.
deal your brain lag
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On January 16 2013 16:58 SnowFantasy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2013 13:29 Zergneedsfood wrote:That's like Season 19.....chill out lol That means he could be like A- by now.
Do not be dictated by your fears!
On January 17 2013 00:11 mca64[KDV] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2013 23:20 Zergneedsfood wrote:On January 13 2013 20:02 mca64[KDV] wrote:On December 12 2012 05:29 sluggaslamoo wrote:On December 12 2012 05:04 mca64[KDV] wrote:On December 12 2012 04:50 L_Master wrote:On December 12 2012 04:36 mca64[KDV] wrote:On December 12 2012 04:32 Zergneedsfood wrote:On December 12 2012 04:26 mca64[KDV] wrote:On December 12 2012 03:01 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Why ban Fold? cause his skill isnt C level? also i and few others from this KOTH cant play with him - even on extra high latency game isnt playable How do you know? He hasn't gone above C level on iCCup has he? Rush[pain] also couldnt go higher than c+, does it mean he is C skill player? You said couldn't, not didn't. Couldn't implies by it's usage that he tried to and failed. Clearly if you try and get B- but can't get it your not B-. Folds case is different because he hasn't laddered that much on iccup but there really isn't that much evidence to say he is clearly a blue rank. He didn't even get the win in YSL. sorry my english isnt too good. Fold was in YSL final, in semi he raped dr shrinker who got b- last season. Last time fold won one game with predator, who is A- player on NW, 2 games with julia (also a-) etc etc. How c-/c guy gonna win with him? also he plays toss, which is imba on low level ranks Can you like, please stop being an idiot? We see this shit in D Rank Tours all the time and all it really does is show how immature the community is. He worked his ass off to get where he was in the YSL final and he worked his ass off to prepare for NW. Its not fold's fault his opponent underestimated him. Basically there's nothing to be gained from doing well in a tournament because people will think you are high rank when you are really not. He has tried to be higher than C ranks and never made it. What does that mean? It means he's not fucking B rank. Also, its fucking KOTH, who gives a shit? Deal with it. Sorry we won't play fold in NW anymore because it makes him look too good. And guys nobody take tours seriously and prepare builds, because there's a big chance you won't get to play in the next one. -_- Sorry posters like this make me rage hard. http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/pjyhwaiting.htmlyou are stupid noob. When i said he is blue rank thats means he is blue rank. Deal it You are stupid noob, he got it yesterday and then posted a blog about it. Up until then he had not gotten blue rank. Deal with it. Stupid noob. deal your brain lag
Learn to type a response before you post please. Editing your insults in, especially one that's grammatically incorrect, doesn't help when the person you're insulting happens to see.
Honestly, if you're just panzy and scared to admit that Fold is much better than you and you'd get butt raped by him, just say that instead of just complaining that he is blue rank before he was B- rank. Surely your fears that he was B was because he just stomped your face and you had no other way of justifying it (rather than the obvious conclusion).
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It's mca64...can't expect much.
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On January 17 2013 00:19 SlowBullets wrote:
It's mca64...can't expect much.
I'm sorry. I don't even know him. Maybe I should've taken that as a flag.
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On January 17 2013 00:22 Zergneedsfood wrote:I'm sorry. I don't even know him. Maybe I should've taken that as a flag.
Don't worry after bumping into him on ICC a few times he's a lost cause. Had to learn the harder way.
Also looking at his forum post trends
he keeps making himself look like a fool...hahaha.
PS: illiterate mca64 response incoming, cover your head in aluminum foil to protect against all stupidity!
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On January 17 2013 00:26 SlowBullets wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 00:22 Zergneedsfood wrote:On January 17 2013 00:19 SlowBullets wrote:
It's mca64...can't expect much. I'm sorry. I don't even know him. Maybe I should've taken that as a flag. Don't worry after bumping into him on ICC a few times he's a lost cause. Had to learn the harder way. Also looking at his forum post trends he keeps making himself look like a fool...hahaha. PS: illiterate mca64 response incoming, cover your head in aluminum foil to protect against all stupidity!
I played one game with you. Game was short cause you arent worthy my skills and after game you started talking shit and cryin, i just ingored you backt then. Now i read your post.. do you have any problems with memory? Maybe i can remind you with my link to my stream archive? Dont thank me for my help
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On January 17 2013 00:12 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2013 16:58 SnowFantasy wrote:On January 16 2013 13:29 Zergneedsfood wrote:That's like Season 19.....chill out lol That means he could be like A- by now. Do not be dictated by your fears! Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 00:11 mca64[KDV] wrote:On January 13 2013 23:20 Zergneedsfood wrote:On January 13 2013 20:02 mca64[KDV] wrote:On December 12 2012 05:29 sluggaslamoo wrote:On December 12 2012 05:04 mca64[KDV] wrote:On December 12 2012 04:50 L_Master wrote:On December 12 2012 04:36 mca64[KDV] wrote:On December 12 2012 04:32 Zergneedsfood wrote:On December 12 2012 04:26 mca64[KDV] wrote:
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cause his skill isnt C level? also i and few others from this KOTH cant play with him - even on extra high latency game isnt playable How do you know? He hasn't gone above C level on iCCup has he? Rush[pain] also couldnt go higher than c+, does it mean he is C skill player? You said couldn't, not didn't. Couldn't implies by it's usage that he tried to and failed. Clearly if you try and get B- but can't get it your not B-. Folds case is different because he hasn't laddered that much on iccup but there really isn't that much evidence to say he is clearly a blue rank. He didn't even get the win in YSL. sorry my english isnt too good. Fold was in YSL final, in semi he raped dr shrinker who got b- last season. Last time fold won one game with predator, who is A- player on NW, 2 games with julia (also a-) etc etc. How c-/c guy gonna win with him? also he plays toss, which is imba on low level ranks Can you like, please stop being an idiot? We see this shit in D Rank Tours all the time and all it really does is show how immature the community is. He worked his ass off to get where he was in the YSL final and he worked his ass off to prepare for NW. Its not fold's fault his opponent underestimated him. Basically there's nothing to be gained from doing well in a tournament because people will think you are high rank when you are really not. He has tried to be higher than C ranks and never made it. What does that mean? It means he's not fucking B rank. Also, its fucking KOTH, who gives a shit? Deal with it. Sorry we won't play fold in NW anymore because it makes him look too good. And guys nobody take tours seriously and prepare builds, because there's a big chance you won't get to play in the next one. -_- Sorry posters like this make me rage hard. http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/pjyhwaiting.htmlyou are stupid noob. When i said he is blue rank thats means he is blue rank. Deal it You are stupid noob, he got it yesterday and then posted a blog about it. Up until then he had not gotten blue rank. Deal with it. Stupid noob. deal your brain lag Learn to type a response before you post please. Editing your insults in, especially one that's grammatically incorrect, doesn't help when the person you're insulting happens to see. Honestly, if you're just panzy and scared to admit that Fold is much better than you and you'd get butt raped by him, just say that instead of just complaining that he is blue rank before he was B- rank. Surely your fears that he was B was because he just stomped your face and you had no other way of justifying it (rather than the obvious conclusion).
man do you have any problems with logic? Do you think fold now is b- and 1 month ago he was C rank? comon
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Told you ZnF
blah blah blah im dumb as fuck blah blha bllah
PS: game was short because your polish internet is slow as fuck, and you 2 facte me...nice skill sir.
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On January 17 2013 01:58 mca64[KDV] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 00:26 SlowBullets wrote:On January 17 2013 00:22 Zergneedsfood wrote:On January 17 2013 00:19 SlowBullets wrote:
It's mca64...can't expect much. I'm sorry. I don't even know him. Maybe I should've taken that as a flag. Don't worry after bumping into him on ICC a few times he's a lost cause. Had to learn the harder way. Also looking at his forum post trends he keeps making himself look like a fool...hahaha. PS: illiterate mca64 response incoming, cover your head in aluminum foil to protect against all stupidity! I played one game with you. Game was short cause you arent worthy my skills and after game you started talking shit and cryin, i just ingored you backt then. Now i read your post.. do you have any problems with memory? Maybe i can remind you with my link to my stream archive? Dont thank me for my help
What skills Mca64? I beat you 4-0 or 5-0 without trying. Should I help you remember by posting replays or finding the videos in my stream archive? You have the worst attitude out of anyone in BW forums, and yes it is possible for someone to go C to B- rank in a month, that is not even close to being impossible. Get over yourself mca64, don't even try to say anything back to me, because you know what the deal is.
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On January 17 2013 02:03 mca64[KDV] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 00:12 Zergneedsfood wrote:On January 16 2013 16:58 SnowFantasy wrote:On January 16 2013 13:29 Zergneedsfood wrote:That's like Season 19.....chill out lol That means he could be like A- by now. Do not be dictated by your fears! On January 17 2013 00:11 mca64[KDV] wrote:On January 13 2013 23:20 Zergneedsfood wrote:On January 13 2013 20:02 mca64[KDV] wrote:On December 12 2012 05:29 sluggaslamoo wrote:On December 12 2012 05:04 mca64[KDV] wrote:On December 12 2012 04:50 L_Master wrote:On December 12 2012 04:36 mca64[KDV] wrote:On December 12 2012 04:32 Zergneedsfood wrote:
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How do you know? He hasn't gone above C level on iCCup has he? Rush[pain] also couldnt go higher than c+, does it mean he is C skill player? You said couldn't, not didn't. Couldn't implies by it's usage that he tried to and failed. Clearly if you try and get B- but can't get it your not B-. Folds case is different because he hasn't laddered that much on iccup but there really isn't that much evidence to say he is clearly a blue rank. He didn't even get the win in YSL. sorry my english isnt too good. Fold was in YSL final, in semi he raped dr shrinker who got b- last season. Last time fold won one game with predator, who is A- player on NW, 2 games with julia (also a-) etc etc. How c-/c guy gonna win with him? also he plays toss, which is imba on low level ranks Can you like, please stop being an idiot? We see this shit in D Rank Tours all the time and all it really does is show how immature the community is. He worked his ass off to get where he was in the YSL final and he worked his ass off to prepare for NW. Its not fold's fault his opponent underestimated him. Basically there's nothing to be gained from doing well in a tournament because people will think you are high rank when you are really not. He has tried to be higher than C ranks and never made it. What does that mean? It means he's not fucking B rank. Also, its fucking KOTH, who gives a shit? Deal with it. Sorry we won't play fold in NW anymore because it makes him look too good. And guys nobody take tours seriously and prepare builds, because there's a big chance you won't get to play in the next one. -_- Sorry posters like this make me rage hard. http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/pjyhwaiting.htmlyou are stupid noob. When i said he is blue rank thats means he is blue rank. Deal it You are stupid noob, he got it yesterday and then posted a blog about it. Up until then he had not gotten blue rank. Deal with it. Stupid noob. deal your brain lag Learn to type a response before you post please. Editing your insults in, especially one that's grammatically incorrect, doesn't help when the person you're insulting happens to see. Honestly, if you're just panzy and scared to admit that Fold is much better than you and you'd get butt raped by him, just say that instead of just complaining that he is blue rank before he was B- rank. Surely your fears that he was B was because he just stomped your face and you had no other way of justifying it (rather than the obvious conclusion). man do you have any problems with logic? Do you think fold now is b- and 1 month ago he was C rank? comon
So basically he raped you and you're butthurt and you have no other explanation. The rules explicitly state IF YOU HAD GOTTEN B- rank, which means if you haven't acquired blue rank, under these parameters you're not B rank.
Stop trying to argue when you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
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On January 17 2013 02:45 GGzerG wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 01:58 mca64[KDV] wrote:On January 17 2013 00:26 SlowBullets wrote:On January 17 2013 00:22 Zergneedsfood wrote:On January 17 2013 00:19 SlowBullets wrote:
It's mca64...can't expect much. I'm sorry. I don't even know him. Maybe I should've taken that as a flag. Don't worry after bumping into him on ICC a few times he's a lost cause. Had to learn the harder way. Also looking at his forum post trends he keeps making himself look like a fool...hahaha. PS: illiterate mca64 response incoming, cover your head in aluminum foil to protect against all stupidity! I played one game with you. Game was short cause you arent worthy my skills and after game you started talking shit and cryin, i just ingored you backt then. Now i read your post.. do you have any problems with memory? Maybe i can remind you with my link to my stream archive? Dont thank me for my help What skills Mca64? I beat you 4-0 or 5-0 without trying. Should I help you remember by posting replays or finding the videos in my stream archive? You have the worst attitude out of anyone in BW forums, and yes it is possible for someone to go C to B- rank in a month, that is not even close to being impossible. Get over yourself mca64, don't even try to say anything back to me, because you know what the deal is.
yes, please find game when you dint win by a proxy 2 gate... oh wait
If you cant find i can post our games where you were raped
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On January 17 2013 02:54 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 02:03 mca64[KDV] wrote:On January 17 2013 00:12 Zergneedsfood wrote:On January 16 2013 16:58 SnowFantasy wrote:On January 16 2013 13:29 Zergneedsfood wrote:That's like Season 19.....chill out lol That means he could be like A- by now. Do not be dictated by your fears! On January 17 2013 00:11 mca64[KDV] wrote:On January 13 2013 23:20 Zergneedsfood wrote:On January 13 2013 20:02 mca64[KDV] wrote:On December 12 2012 05:29 sluggaslamoo wrote:On December 12 2012 05:04 mca64[KDV] wrote:On December 12 2012 04:50 L_Master wrote:On December 12 2012 04:36 mca64[KDV] wrote:
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Rush[pain] also couldnt go higher than c+, does it mean he is C skill player? You said couldn't, not didn't. Couldn't implies by it's usage that he tried to and failed. Clearly if you try and get B- but can't get it your not B-. Folds case is different because he hasn't laddered that much on iccup but there really isn't that much evidence to say he is clearly a blue rank. He didn't even get the win in YSL. sorry my english isnt too good. Fold was in YSL final, in semi he raped dr shrinker who got b- last season. Last time fold won one game with predator, who is A- player on NW, 2 games with julia (also a-) etc etc. How c-/c guy gonna win with him? also he plays toss, which is imba on low level ranks Can you like, please stop being an idiot? We see this shit in D Rank Tours all the time and all it really does is show how immature the community is. He worked his ass off to get where he was in the YSL final and he worked his ass off to prepare for NW. Its not fold's fault his opponent underestimated him. Basically there's nothing to be gained from doing well in a tournament because people will think you are high rank when you are really not. He has tried to be higher than C ranks and never made it. What does that mean? It means he's not fucking B rank. Also, its fucking KOTH, who gives a shit? Deal with it. Sorry we won't play fold in NW anymore because it makes him look too good. And guys nobody take tours seriously and prepare builds, because there's a big chance you won't get to play in the next one. -_- Sorry posters like this make me rage hard. http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/pjyhwaiting.htmlyou are stupid noob. When i said he is blue rank thats means he is blue rank. Deal it You are stupid noob, he got it yesterday and then posted a blog about it. Up until then he had not gotten blue rank. Deal with it. Stupid noob. deal your brain lag Learn to type a response before you post please. Editing your insults in, especially one that's grammatically incorrect, doesn't help when the person you're insulting happens to see. Honestly, if you're just panzy and scared to admit that Fold is much better than you and you'd get butt raped by him, just say that instead of just complaining that he is blue rank before he was B- rank. Surely your fears that he was B was because he just stomped your face and you had no other way of justifying it (rather than the obvious conclusion). man do you have any problems with logic? Do you think fold now is b- and 1 month ago he was C rank? comon So basically he raped you and you're butthurt and you have no other explanation. The rules explicitly state IF YOU HAD GOTTEN B- rank, which means if you haven't acquired blue rank, under these parameters you're not B rank. Stop trying to argue when you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
are you spam bot here? 4.7k post and know nothnig about sc;bw. ?Tour is for yellow rank, fold's skills was higher than yellow rank when he signed and you should know it
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On January 17 2013 14:44 mca64[KDV] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 02:54 Zergneedsfood wrote:On January 17 2013 02:03 mca64[KDV] wrote:On January 17 2013 00:12 Zergneedsfood wrote:On January 16 2013 16:58 SnowFantasy wrote:On January 16 2013 13:29 Zergneedsfood wrote:That's like Season 19.....chill out lol That means he could be like A- by now. Do not be dictated by your fears! On January 17 2013 00:11 mca64[KDV] wrote:On January 13 2013 23:20 Zergneedsfood wrote:On January 13 2013 20:02 mca64[KDV] wrote:On December 12 2012 05:29 sluggaslamoo wrote:On December 12 2012 05:04 mca64[KDV] wrote:On December 12 2012 04:50 L_Master wrote:
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You said couldn't, not didn't. Couldn't implies by it's usage that he tried to and failed. Clearly if you try and get B- but can't get it your not B-.
Folds case is different because he hasn't laddered that much on iccup but there really isn't that much evidence to say he is clearly a blue rank. He didn't even get the win in YSL.
sorry my english isnt too good. Fold was in YSL final, in semi he raped dr shrinker who got b- last season. Last time fold won one game with predator, who is A- player on NW, 2 games with julia (also a-) etc etc. How c-/c guy gonna win with him? also he plays toss, which is imba on low level ranks Can you like, please stop being an idiot? We see this shit in D Rank Tours all the time and all it really does is show how immature the community is. He worked his ass off to get where he was in the YSL final and he worked his ass off to prepare for NW. Its not fold's fault his opponent underestimated him. Basically there's nothing to be gained from doing well in a tournament because people will think you are high rank when you are really not. He has tried to be higher than C ranks and never made it. What does that mean? It means he's not fucking B rank. Also, its fucking KOTH, who gives a shit? Deal with it. Sorry we won't play fold in NW anymore because it makes him look too good. And guys nobody take tours seriously and prepare builds, because there's a big chance you won't get to play in the next one. -_- Sorry posters like this make me rage hard. http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/pjyhwaiting.htmlyou are stupid noob. When i said he is blue rank thats means he is blue rank. Deal it You are stupid noob, he got it yesterday and then posted a blog about it. Up until then he had not gotten blue rank. Deal with it. Stupid noob. deal your brain lag Learn to type a response before you post please. Editing your insults in, especially one that's grammatically incorrect, doesn't help when the person you're insulting happens to see. Honestly, if you're just panzy and scared to admit that Fold is much better than you and you'd get butt raped by him, just say that instead of just complaining that he is blue rank before he was B- rank. Surely your fears that he was B was because he just stomped your face and you had no other way of justifying it (rather than the obvious conclusion). man do you have any problems with logic? Do you think fold now is b- and 1 month ago he was C rank? comon So basically he raped you and you're butthurt and you have no other explanation. The rules explicitly state IF YOU HAD GOTTEN B- rank, which means if you haven't acquired blue rank, under these parameters you're not B rank. Stop trying to argue when you have no idea what the hell you're talking about. are you spam bot here? 4.7k post and know nothnig about sc;bw. ?Tour is for yellow rank, fold's skills was higher than yellow rank when he signed and you should know it
I was bored yesterday and so I went browsing the iccup ladder and I found this guy:
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/cds.briando91.html
He has reached B- with a 95% with only playing D players that have a winration that is below 33%. I'm just saying that the rank you have doesn't actually mean as much as we try to pretend it does.
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wanna play in this. just send an email will do? O_O
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On January 17 2013 15:29 thezanursic wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 14:44 mca64[KDV] wrote:On January 17 2013 02:54 Zergneedsfood wrote:On January 17 2013 02:03 mca64[KDV] wrote:On January 17 2013 00:12 Zergneedsfood wrote:On January 16 2013 16:58 SnowFantasy wrote:On January 16 2013 13:29 Zergneedsfood wrote:That's like Season 19.....chill out lol That means he could be like A- by now. Do not be dictated by your fears! On January 17 2013 00:11 mca64[KDV] wrote:On January 13 2013 23:20 Zergneedsfood wrote:On January 13 2013 20:02 mca64[KDV] wrote:On December 12 2012 05:29 sluggaslamoo wrote:On December 12 2012 05:04 mca64[KDV] wrote:
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sorry my english isnt too good. Fold was in YSL final, in semi he raped dr shrinker who got b- last season. Last time fold won one game with predator, who is A- player on NW, 2 games with julia (also a-) etc etc. How c-/c guy gonna win with him? also he plays toss, which is imba on low level ranks Can you like, please stop being an idiot? We see this shit in D Rank Tours all the time and all it really does is show how immature the community is. He worked his ass off to get where he was in the YSL final and he worked his ass off to prepare for NW. Its not fold's fault his opponent underestimated him. Basically there's nothing to be gained from doing well in a tournament because people will think you are high rank when you are really not. He has tried to be higher than C ranks and never made it. What does that mean? It means he's not fucking B rank. Also, its fucking KOTH, who gives a shit? Deal with it. Sorry we won't play fold in NW anymore because it makes him look too good. And guys nobody take tours seriously and prepare builds, because there's a big chance you won't get to play in the next one. -_- Sorry posters like this make me rage hard. http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/pjyhwaiting.htmlyou are stupid noob. When i said he is blue rank thats means he is blue rank. Deal it You are stupid noob, he got it yesterday and then posted a blog about it. Up until then he had not gotten blue rank. Deal with it. Stupid noob. deal your brain lag Learn to type a response before you post please. Editing your insults in, especially one that's grammatically incorrect, doesn't help when the person you're insulting happens to see. Honestly, if you're just panzy and scared to admit that Fold is much better than you and you'd get butt raped by him, just say that instead of just complaining that he is blue rank before he was B- rank. Surely your fears that he was B was because he just stomped your face and you had no other way of justifying it (rather than the obvious conclusion). man do you have any problems with logic? Do you think fold now is b- and 1 month ago he was C rank? comon So basically he raped you and you're butthurt and you have no other explanation. The rules explicitly state IF YOU HAD GOTTEN B- rank, which means if you haven't acquired blue rank, under these parameters you're not B rank. Stop trying to argue when you have no idea what the hell you're talking about. are you spam bot here? 4.7k post and know nothnig about sc;bw. ?Tour is for yellow rank, fold's skills was higher than yellow rank when he signed and you should know it I was bored yesterday and so I went browsing the iccup ladder and I found this guy: http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/cds.briando91.htmlHe has reached B- with a 95% with only playing D players that have a winration that is below 33%. I'm just saying that the rank you have doesn't actually mean as much as we try to pretend it does.
People who abuse the system are the exception, not the rule. Generally, C ranks are lower-intermediate skills on the iccup server. Now, I know this argument will always arise when you have a tournament where the premise is "may the best player win", while there is a simultaneous skill cap. However, there's an argument to be made here that if you used a manipulation of data to gain unfair advantage, you would be in breach of good sportsmanship. For example, in the 2008 Beijing Olympics, when the Chinese National Gymnastics Team sent out their competitors, there was controversy over their age and eligibility, the reason being that they may not have met the requirements set out by the rules.
To simply dismiss the arguments and go "Eh, it doesn't really matter" really shows a lack of objectivity and I don't believe to be productive to a conversation. As long as we're not engaging in death threats, "your mom" jokes, nuclear warfare, then I see no problem in having a legitimate disagreement with someone, but it's very easy to dismiss the entirety of the discussion as "childish" (which is kind of intellectually lazy) and have many other people jump on that bandwagon.
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On January 17 2013 18:07 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 15:29 thezanursic wrote:On January 17 2013 14:44 mca64[KDV] wrote:On January 17 2013 02:54 Zergneedsfood wrote:On January 17 2013 02:03 mca64[KDV] wrote:On January 17 2013 00:12 Zergneedsfood wrote:On January 16 2013 16:58 SnowFantasy wrote:On January 16 2013 13:29 Zergneedsfood wrote:That's like Season 19.....chill out lol That means he could be like A- by now. Do not be dictated by your fears! On January 17 2013 00:11 mca64[KDV] wrote:On January 13 2013 23:20 Zergneedsfood wrote:On January 13 2013 20:02 mca64[KDV] wrote:On December 12 2012 05:29 sluggaslamoo wrote:
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Can you like, please stop being an idiot? We see this shit in D Rank Tours all the time and all it really does is show how immature the community is.
He worked his ass off to get where he was in the YSL final and he worked his ass off to prepare for NW. Its not fold's fault his opponent underestimated him.
Basically there's nothing to be gained from doing well in a tournament because people will think you are high rank when you are really not. He has tried to be higher than C ranks and never made it. What does that mean? It means he's not fucking B rank.
Also, its fucking KOTH, who gives a shit? Deal with it.
Sorry we won't play fold in NW anymore because it makes him look too good. And guys nobody take tours seriously and prepare builds, because there's a big chance you won't get to play in the next one. -_-
Sorry posters like this make me rage hard. http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/pjyhwaiting.htmlyou are stupid noob. When i said he is blue rank thats means he is blue rank. Deal it You are stupid noob, he got it yesterday and then posted a blog about it. Up until then he had not gotten blue rank. Deal with it. Stupid noob. deal your brain lag Learn to type a response before you post please. Editing your insults in, especially one that's grammatically incorrect, doesn't help when the person you're insulting happens to see. Honestly, if you're just panzy and scared to admit that Fold is much better than you and you'd get butt raped by him, just say that instead of just complaining that he is blue rank before he was B- rank. Surely your fears that he was B was because he just stomped your face and you had no other way of justifying it (rather than the obvious conclusion). man do you have any problems with logic? Do you think fold now is b- and 1 month ago he was C rank? comon So basically he raped you and you're butthurt and you have no other explanation. The rules explicitly state IF YOU HAD GOTTEN B- rank, which means if you haven't acquired blue rank, under these parameters you're not B rank. Stop trying to argue when you have no idea what the hell you're talking about. are you spam bot here? 4.7k post and know nothnig about sc;bw. ?Tour is for yellow rank, fold's skills was higher than yellow rank when he signed and you should know it I was bored yesterday and so I went browsing the iccup ladder and I found this guy: http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/cds.briando91.htmlHe has reached B- with a 95% with only playing D players that have a winration that is below 33%. I'm just saying that the rank you have doesn't actually mean as much as we try to pretend it does. People who abuse the system are the exception, not the rule. Generally, C ranks are lower-intermediate skills on the iccup server. Now, I know this argument will always arise when you have a tournament where the premise is "may the best player win", while there is a simultaneous skill cap. However, there's an argument to be made here that if you used a manipulation of data to gain unfair advantage, you would be in breach of good sportsmanship. For example, in the 2008 Beijing Olympics, when the Chinese National Gymnastics Team sent out their competitors, there was controversy over their age and eligibility, the reason being that they may not have met the requirements set out by the rules. To simply dismiss the arguments and go " Eh, it doesn't really matter" really shows a lack of objectivity and I don't believe to be productive to a conversation. As long as we're not engaging in death threats, "your mom" jokes, nuclear warfare, then I see no problem in having a legitimate disagreement with someone, but it's very easy to dismiss the entirety of the discussion as "childish" (which is kind of intellectually lazy) and have many other people jump on that bandwagon.
I really don't know if you were trying to argue with me or MCA. I generally agree with what you are saying, but I was just pointing out that what MCA specifically said is not always true and I also disagree with him saying that it's impossible to get from C to B in a month.
Theoretically someone who has never played a single game of brood war could hop onto it and beat Flash at his peak. It's EXTERMELY unlikely, but theoretically possible. It is the same for improvement in practice almost nobody would hit A+ after a month of playing, but it's possible in theory.
It's the same for Fold. It's unlikely for a player to show such massive improvement in a month, but everything points towards it happening (and then again C to B- is not *that* unlikely)
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I hope I didn't overcomplicate this for no reason!
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On January 17 2013 18:25 thezanursic wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 18:07 ninazerg wrote:On January 17 2013 15:29 thezanursic wrote:On January 17 2013 14:44 mca64[KDV] wrote:On January 17 2013 02:54 Zergneedsfood wrote:On January 17 2013 02:03 mca64[KDV] wrote:On January 17 2013 00:12 Zergneedsfood wrote:On January 16 2013 16:58 SnowFantasy wrote:On January 16 2013 13:29 Zergneedsfood wrote:That's like Season 19.....chill out lol That means he could be like A- by now. Do not be dictated by your fears! On January 17 2013 00:11 mca64[KDV] wrote:On January 13 2013 23:20 Zergneedsfood wrote:You are stupid noob, he got it yesterday and then posted a blog about it. Up until then he had not gotten blue rank. Deal with it. Stupid noob. deal your brain lag Learn to type a response before you post please. Editing your insults in, especially one that's grammatically incorrect, doesn't help when the person you're insulting happens to see. Honestly, if you're just panzy and scared to admit that Fold is much better than you and you'd get butt raped by him, just say that instead of just complaining that he is blue rank before he was B- rank. Surely your fears that he was B was because he just stomped your face and you had no other way of justifying it (rather than the obvious conclusion). man do you have any problems with logic? Do you think fold now is b- and 1 month ago he was C rank? comon So basically he raped you and you're butthurt and you have no other explanation. The rules explicitly state IF YOU HAD GOTTEN B- rank, which means if you haven't acquired blue rank, under these parameters you're not B rank. Stop trying to argue when you have no idea what the hell you're talking about. are you spam bot here? 4.7k post and know nothnig about sc;bw. ?Tour is for yellow rank, fold's skills was higher than yellow rank when he signed and you should know it I was bored yesterday and so I went browsing the iccup ladder and I found this guy: http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/cds.briando91.htmlHe has reached B- with a 95% with only playing D players that have a winration that is below 33%. I'm just saying that the rank you have doesn't actually mean as much as we try to pretend it does. People who abuse the system are the exception, not the rule. Generally, C ranks are lower-intermediate skills on the iccup server. Now, I know this argument will always arise when you have a tournament where the premise is "may the best player win", while there is a simultaneous skill cap. However, there's an argument to be made here that if you used a manipulation of data to gain unfair advantage, you would be in breach of good sportsmanship. For example, in the 2008 Beijing Olympics, when the Chinese National Gymnastics Team sent out their competitors, there was controversy over their age and eligibility, the reason being that they may not have met the requirements set out by the rules. To simply dismiss the arguments and go " Eh, it doesn't really matter" really shows a lack of objectivity and I don't believe to be productive to a conversation. As long as we're not engaging in death threats, "your mom" jokes, nuclear warfare, then I see no problem in having a legitimate disagreement with someone, but it's very easy to dismiss the entirety of the discussion as "childish" (which is kind of intellectually lazy) and have many other people jump on that bandwagon. I really don't know if you were trying to argue with me or MCA. I generally agree with what you are saying, but I was just pointing out that what MCA specifically said is not always true and I also disagree with him saying that it's impossible to get from C to B in a month. Theoretically someone who has never played a single game of brood war could hop onto it and beat Flash at his peak. It's EXTERMELY unlikely, but theoretically possible. It is the same for improvement in practice almost nobody would hit A+ after a month of playing, but it's possible in theory. It's the same for Fold. It's unlikely for a player to show such massive improvement in a month, but everything points towards it happening (and then again C to B- is not *that* unlikely) + Show Spoiler +
I hope I didn't overcomplicate this for no reason!
First paragraph: Okay, I guess we agree on that.
Second paragraph: I'm going to try my very utmost hardest to not engage in a vitriolic tirade insulting you personally, but explain why you are completely wrong in a very poised and eloquent manner.
Good sir, I do hereby submit to you that I wish to express my disconcordance with your attestation to the relativistic constitution of the merits of aptitude in the esteemed virtuosity of one Lee Young Ho as juxtaposed aside a dilettante, nay, a novitiate of sorts in the school of StellaMestieret: guerra delle nidiate.
A hypothesis would better explain your assertion, as a hypothesis is a proposition made as a basis for reasoning, without any assumption of its truth. I understand that you are utilizing the term 'theory' as a conjectural device, and perhaps unintentionally, deceptively so. However, a theory must be supported by observable patterns of behavior that lead to the formation of a guiding set of principles.
When we talk about oddsmaking theory, we generally are speaking about unknown variables that affect the outcome of a particular contingency. For example, a salesman sets a goal for a certain number of phone calls per hour based on data that has been collected to maximize his sales proficiency. He knows that the phone numbers on his list are considered more likely to pick up their phones and speak with him. He knows his sales pitch, and has it down to a cue. He has a solid, attractive product that he knows he can convince most people that they will need. However, what he does not know, is how the potential customers will react to him. It is technically possible that none of the people he calls will make a purchase. However, it is highly unlikely that this will be the case, because the company he works for has calculated that there will be an overall "average" of positive responses per phone call, thus, to make sales, the volume of phone-calls should simply be increased until the sales quota is met.
Even in this scenario where there are unknown variables, there is certainty in knowing that, eventually, a sale will be made. Now, you may think that I've just defeated the point I was making. If an unlimited absolute newcomers were to play "Flash at the peak of his career", there is an uncertainty variable that dictates that eventually, Flash would lose. In reality, however, all of the variables are controlled. It is Flash's fully-functional mind versus the fully-functional mind of Player X, but in a quite narrow context, relatively speaking. StarCraft, the game, even with it's depth, has limitations. So both players are playing within the limitations of the game, to which Player X's understanding can be expressed as 0. Player X therefore has to rely solely on his or her adaptability and dexterity, which would be a minute fraction of a single digit. If Player X played from the moment of his or her birth, all the way to their death, maintaining a constant mathematical understanding of 0 over the entirety of their lifetime, they would probably win approximately zero of their games, although, they may win a fraction of one game, but since games are expressed as whole numbers, if they won 0.04 games, the number would be rounded to 0.
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As we can see from this chart, the number of games does not change the outcome. Now, if we used a more realistic model where, over time, the noob begins to gain game knowledge, the odds would still be astronomically low. How low? Like, probably a google-plex.
The point is: it would never ever ever ever ever ever ever get back together happen.
Third paragraph: The odds of a newcomer beating Flash have really nothing to do with the rate by which a player can realistically improve over time. Using a nonsensical scenario to make a point that "anything is possible" does not conform to a human perception of reality because we are limited in space, time, matter, and energy. For example, if there was a huge car accident, and a woman survived somehow, someone might go "It was a miracle from God!", and a skeptic might go "You know, it's possible to not die from a car accident, and in all likelihood, I don't know if even God even exists." then some other guy goes "Hey, anything is possible! Like, a flea could destroy an Nimitz-class Aircraft Carrier in a head-to-head battle. I know the odds of this happening are very low, but it could happen, and therefore, God could exist, and this could've been a miracle." I'm not saying God does nor doesn't exist, I'm simply saying applying this kind of absurd "ridiculous scenario" logic to a perfectly logical happening just doesn't make any fucking sense.
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It's unlikely for a player to show such massive improvement in a month
Kolll.
End of argument. *yawn*
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I'm going to be honest, CR drama is so much funnier than DR drama, despite being about the same exact fucking shit...
Really though, I LOL'd really really hard throughout these last few pages, thank you everyone hahaha.
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On January 17 2013 15:35 S2Glow wrote:
wanna play in this. just send an email will do? O_O
Post in here or PM me broooo
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