Predictions, if i understand the new format correctly:

Group A: Chojja > Gorush, Boxer > Terato
Boxer > Chojja, Gorush > Terato
Chojja > Gorush
Boxer and Chojja advance

Group B: Savior > Stork, Reach > Kingdom
Savior > Reach, Stork > Kingdom
Reach > Stork
Savior and Reach advance

Group C: Oov < Ra, Rainbow > Yooi
Ra > Rainbow, Oov > Yooi
Oov > Rainbow
Ra and Oov advance

Group D: Mumyung < Pusan, Midas > Rumble
Pusan < Midas, Mumyung > Rumble
Mumyung > Pusan
Mumyung and Midas advance

YoUr_KiLLeR

United States3420 Posts

April 06 2006 11:20 GMT

#102

gorush's zvz used to be deemed invincible. its sort of weird to see everyone predicting chojja over him. sure chojja is the reigning MSL champ, but has chojja actually showed excellent zvz form? he beat savior in 2 bo5's to win the championship, but savior's zvz is his weakest matchup.

tfeign

United States2980 Posts

April 06 2006 12:01 GMT

#103

Chojja also beat Gorush the last time they faced. That and beating savior in two bo5's is a lot better than anything Gorush has shown to us zvz-wise lately.

Live2Win

United States6657 Posts

April 06 2006 12:57 GMT

#104

omg I'm so excitced for this MSL. Even more than OSL. xDDD So many exciting matches to wait for.

YoUr_KiLLeR

United States3420 Posts

April 06 2006 13:30 GMT

#105

On April 06 2006 21:01 tfeign wrote:
Chojja also beat Gorush the last time they faced. That and beating savior in two bo5's is a lot better than anything Gorush has shown to us zvz-wise lately.

when was the last time they faced? the last time i remember off the top of my head was the deciding group match in IOPS. refresh my memory X_X.

tfeign

United States2980 Posts

April 06 2006 14:08 GMT

#106

Right here: http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=29075

Chojja beat him twice on the same day.

So the Chojja vs Gorush match should be very interesting. Chojja was the one responsible for sending Gorush to the biggest slump of his career ever since his big rise.

Now, this is Gorush's chance for payback. Still, the favorite to win here has to be Chojja, who I rank as the best ZvZ atm.

YoUr_KiLLeR

United States3420 Posts

April 06 2006 15:43 GMT

#107

oh you're right now i remember. chojja 5 pooled gorush out of So1 X_X.

then in the next dual tournament, gorush lost to july twice as well X_X.

KorvspaD

Sweden468 Posts

April 06 2006 19:49 GMT

#108

when is the OSL group selection?

Guybrush

Spain4744 Posts

April 06 2006 20:48 GMT

#109

I dont want to make any predictions before I know the maps for every round.

Liquid`Jinro

Sweden33723 Posts

April 06 2006 22:07 GMT

#110

On April 06 2006 16:23 tfeign wrote:

Show nested quote +

How exactly is ZvP IPX's worst MU? Just because he lost a close series to Nal_rA, the best PvZer, does_not_mean his ZvP is lacking. July lost to rA too the last time he faced him. Does that mean July's is bad at ZvP? rA has beaten virtually every single top zerg the last time he played them. Losing to him doesn't make them bad in that particular matchup.

And yes, IPX lost a close game to Stork that could have gone either way. And if I go by your logic that 2 games mean squat, then 1 game means absolutely nothing. You must have been quick to forget just how many times the guy has repeatedly and convincingly defeated some of the best P's in their prime shape, such as Reach. His worst MU is easily ZvZ. His ZvP is very close if not equal to his ZvT.

And of course, Kingdom, or even I, has a chance to beat Savior in a game. But there's no way Kingdom could be considered the favorite given his current shape.

Ok, so ZvZ is his worst matchup, but his ZvP win% is like.. 54%, I remember seeing that figure in some VOD, but maybe I remember it incorrectly.

And as far as I can tell, I didn't mention IPX's loss to stork, although I thought I did, and I agree it doesn't mean much. I also agree that kingdom isn't the favorite.

I disagreed about ipxzerg being the favorite vs every single toss user.. Sure, he crushes reach, but so does mumyung :-)

I think Ra, Pusan and MAYBE stork would be favorites vs IPX (big, big maybe on stork). See, I'm not saying IPX is BAD at ZvP, it's just that he's so god damn amazing at ZvT

I mean, the only terran he could possibly be considered the underdog vs would be Boxer o_O;

yams

Korea (South)24 Posts

April 06 2006 22:29 GMT

#111

On April 06 2006 03:28 PoP wrote:
Group A: Chojja vs Gorush, Boxer vs Terato
Group B: Savior vs Stork, Reach vs Kingdom
Group C: Oov vs Ra, Rainbow vs Yooi
Group D: Mumyung vs Pusan, Midas vs Rumble

OMG....This is not the exactly same as it is....

Here the result...

Group A: Chojja vs Gorush, Boxer vs Terato
Group B: Savior vs Rainbow , Reach vs Kingdom
Group C: Oov vs Ra, Stork vs Pusan
Group D: Mumyung vs Yooi, Midas vs Rumble

Mumyung changed Pusan with Yooi. And Savior changed Stork with

Rainbow...

You should make new predictions >

SuperJongMan

Jamaica11586 Posts

April 06 2006 22:56 GMT

#112

Ahahaahha Rainbow is DEAD.. T.T God damn it. PvP's are hard to fluke ~_~

PoP

France15446 Posts

April 06 2006 22:58 GMT

#113

Ow, sorry. Guess I thought the selection was over too early. -_-

Red_Dragon

Croatia2862 Posts

April 06 2006 23:52 GMT

#114

yams are you sure? if so that sucks. How can group C have 3 protoss players when group D has none, also group C has no zerg while all other groups have at least one. Something is wrong here.