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Zarathusta
Profile Joined September 2010
United States114 Posts
July 13 2012 00:38 GMT
#2281
I am happy that Zero exceeded his goal of Ro8, and put on a great Ro4 showing. Game 4 I was thinking for a moment that we were about to have a ZvT finals, but Jangbi seems to be at his best on the brink of elimination.

I don't know who wants to win this OSL more, everyone left wants to win more than anything else in the world right now, and the games are certainly reflecting that. Thinking about BW is getting me pumped for Flash v Fantasy.
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
July 13 2012 04:07 GMT
#2282
This is one of the greatest series ever. Game 4 had me, once again, chanting "oh my god" with my hands on my head. The way JangBi makes you BELIEVE in Protoss is unreal. It was once said he had the potential to be the Stork and Bisu Archon if he could master PvZ along with his PvT prowess. He just came out on top of a ZvP artist in a gruelling Bo5, and now will face either the greatest Terran of all time or the hottest Terran of the moment in the final.

Archon complete.
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
July 13 2012 04:38 GMT
#2283
On July 13 2012 13:07 Crisium wrote:
This is one of the greatest series ever. Game 4 had me, once again, chanting "oh my god" with my hands on my head. The way JangBi makes you BELIEVE in Protoss is unreal. It was once said he had the potential to be the Stork and Bisu Archon if he could master PvZ along with his PvT prowess. He just came out on top of a ZvP artist in a gruelling Bo5, and now will face either the greatest Terran of all time or the hottest Terran of the moment in the final.

Archon complete.


Whats ironic is that Jangbi has a completely different style of PvZ to Bisu.

I remember Stork saying once that there is no point to learning Bisu style PvZ because the only one that can do it is Bisu, implying that other Protosses had to come up with a standard style of their own that would work for more "human" PvZers.
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oldgregg
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand1176 Posts
July 13 2012 05:12 GMT
#2284
On July 13 2012 13:38 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 13:07 Crisium wrote:
This is one of the greatest series ever. Game 4 had me, once again, chanting "oh my god" with my hands on my head. The way JangBi makes you BELIEVE in Protoss is unreal. It was once said he had the potential to be the Stork and Bisu Archon if he could master PvZ along with his PvT prowess. He just came out on top of a ZvP artist in a gruelling Bo5, and now will face either the greatest Terran of all time or the hottest Terran of the moment in the final.

Archon complete.


Whats ironic is that Jangbi has a completely different style of PvZ to Bisu.

I remember Stork saying once that there is no point to learning Bisu style PvZ because the only one that can do it is Bisu, implying that other Protosses had to come up with a standard style of their own that would work for more "human" PvZers.


how would you characterise jangbi's PvZ style compared to Bisu's? Not as aggressive?
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De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
July 13 2012 06:38 GMT
#2285
jangbi is sex
GANDHISAUCE
sharkeyanti
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1273 Posts
July 13 2012 06:41 GMT
#2286
After a relative dearth of PvZ in Semi-Finals and Finals in the past few years, it was so great to see a bo5 in this matchup be one of the best. Despite the fact that Zero had the same plan each time, I found each game incredibly tense and was definitely one of the most intense bo5 sets we've had in the past few years. The only PvZ bo5 recently that topped this was Snow v Jaedong, but that's pretty hard to top. Jangbi v Zero will certainly be remembered stronger though, taking all the history into account.

I really hope we get a couple TLFE from BW's goodbye kiss.
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ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
July 13 2012 06:49 GMT
#2287
On July 13 2012 14:12 oldgregg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 13:38 sluggaslamoo wrote:
On July 13 2012 13:07 Crisium wrote:
This is one of the greatest series ever. Game 4 had me, once again, chanting "oh my god" with my hands on my head. The way JangBi makes you BELIEVE in Protoss is unreal. It was once said he had the potential to be the Stork and Bisu Archon if he could master PvZ along with his PvT prowess. He just came out on top of a ZvP artist in a gruelling Bo5, and now will face either the greatest Terran of all time or the hottest Terran of the moment in the final.

Archon complete.


Whats ironic is that Jangbi has a completely different style of PvZ to Bisu.

I remember Stork saying once that there is no point to learning Bisu style PvZ because the only one that can do it is Bisu, implying that other Protosses had to come up with a standard style of their own that would work for more "human" PvZers.


how would you characterise jangbi's PvZ style compared to Bisu's? Not as aggressive?

Don't know about Jangbi but Bisu's PvZ is similar to Stork's PvT in the sense of a completely comprehensive understanding of the matchup at all points of the game.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 07:11:52
July 13 2012 07:10 GMT
#2288
On July 13 2012 13:38 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 13:07 Crisium wrote:
This is one of the greatest series ever. Game 4 had me, once again, chanting "oh my god" with my hands on my head. The way JangBi makes you BELIEVE in Protoss is unreal. It was once said he had the potential to be the Stork and Bisu Archon if he could master PvZ along with his PvT prowess. He just came out on top of a ZvP artist in a gruelling Bo5, and now will face either the greatest Terran of all time or the hottest Terran of the moment in the final.

Archon complete.


Whats ironic is that Jangbi has a completely different style of PvZ to Bisu.

I remember Stork saying once that there is no point to learning Bisu style PvZ because the only one that can do it is Bisu, implying that other Protosses had to come up with a standard style of their own that would work for more "human" PvZers.

Bisu in his peak yes, but bisu of the last does not give the same impression.

But still i remember this game


Incredible, effort plays like a beast and still loses. One of the best zvp's ever for those who didnt watch :p
Stork[gm]
Ermac
Profile Joined June 2011
336 Posts
July 13 2012 07:47 GMT
#2289
Jesus... what's wrong with the OSL schedule. HUGE breaks between every match.... I keep missing everything.

They shouldn't let Broodwar wither away like that and go out with a bang instead.
"Blind aggressiveness would destroy the attack itself, not the defense." - Carl von Clausewitz
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2398 Posts
July 13 2012 07:48 GMT
#2290
I dunno, to me that game feels pretty dated and makes me think neither of them really understands the matchup!

>_>
The original Bogus fan.
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2398 Posts
July 13 2012 07:51 GMT
#2291
On July 12 2012 21:46 WaterTower wrote:
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On July 11 2012 16:59 phosphorylation wrote:
Jangbi didn't quite seem human in games 4 and 5 ...


He did lose a zealot unnecessarily in game 4 during the final attack. While Jangbi clearly showed tremendous skill, he still doesnt match the magnificent peaks of perfection attained by Jaedong, Flash, or even Bisu.


If you don't think those players, even in their peaks, did mistakes like "lose a zealot unnecessarily in the final attack", you've got rose-coloured glasses on.
The original Bogus fan.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
July 13 2012 08:04 GMT
#2292
On July 13 2012 16:47 Ermac wrote:
Jesus... what's wrong with the OSL schedule. HUGE breaks between every match.... I keep missing everything.

They shouldn't let Broodwar wither away like that and go out with a bang instead.

...Um. It's 1 match every week. At the exact same time. That's how the OSL schedule has always been. It's not OGN's fault you can't check the calendar (or just simply remember that matches are always on Tuesday night 7:30PM KST every week).

Here's a tip: Semifinal B is NEXT WEEK, on TUESDAY, JULY 17th, at 7:30 PM KST.
Writer:o
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4157 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 08:09:55
July 13 2012 08:09 GMT
#2293
Really no Flash-Fantasy thread yet?
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ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
July 13 2012 08:11 GMT
#2294
On July 13 2012 17:09 M2 wrote:
Really no Flash-Fantasy thread yet?

Highly suspect that there is an incredible one in the works, which would explain why there isn't one up yet =]
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
July 13 2012 08:55 GMT
#2295
On July 13 2012 17:09 M2 wrote:
Really no Flash-Fantasy thread yet?

Yeah it's annoying, I really want to get on the first page with my "Flash 3-0, Fantasy is overrated" prediction.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
July 13 2012 09:06 GMT
#2296
On July 13 2012 17:55 J1.au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 17:09 M2 wrote:
Really no Flash-Fantasy thread yet?

Yeah it's annoying, I really want to get on the first page with my "Flash 3-0, Fantasy is overrated" prediction.


Unless either of the 2 underperfoms it is going to be a 3-2 series - and I'm not willing to bet on who it'll favour (though would like for it to be Flash as it just seems more fitting).
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18629 Posts
July 13 2012 09:10 GMT
#2297
did we ever have a same pairings OSL final in a row?
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 09:27:37
July 13 2012 09:26 GMT
#2298
On July 13 2012 18:10 sharkie wrote:
did we ever have a same pairings OSL final in a row?


No surprisingly, I was expecting 2 FvJ finals in a row but... oh wait accidentally pun.
There were 3 Flash v Jaedong MSL's in a row though, lol
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elagrion
Profile Joined April 2010
Ukraine422 Posts
July 13 2012 09:52 GMT
#2299
On July 13 2012 00:32 Sk0 wrote:
- personaly even if i'm not a zerg player, Zero play especially at game 5 was mind blowing, u can see at near the end of the game in the middle of the map, Zero wasnt lucky for not focusing in reorganising his huge army in the middle, probably being distracted by the 2 dt's whom was killing his drones and two bottom hatcheries, just before (his army) get slaughtered by jangbi's one

ZerO play was brilliant in both 4th and 5th game, but at the same time he made significant amount of little mistakes.
Everything is a remix.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
July 13 2012 09:58 GMT
#2300
On July 13 2012 18:52 elagrion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 00:32 Sk0 wrote:
- personaly even if i'm not a zerg player, Zero play especially at game 5 was mind blowing, u can see at near the end of the game in the middle of the map, Zero wasnt lucky for not focusing in reorganising his huge army in the middle, probably being distracted by the 2 dt's whom was killing his drones and two bottom hatcheries, just before (his army) get slaughtered by jangbi's one

ZerO play was brilliant in both 4th and 5th game, but at the same time he made significant amount of little mistakes.


Zero had brilliant play in the first half of both games then ???????? I mean I saw that break on the natural with a fake drop then eggs to block zealots and I was screaming YEAHHHH then he randomly dropped like 3 lurkers for nothing when jangbi wasn't planning to expand and lost another 2 trying to hold a reverse ramp from dragoons and I were like T_T
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