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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
April 08 2012 14:43 GMT
#6601
Flash just had to wait for medics and stim and push and win ..... but instead he went out with pure marine + scv against 3 gate zeal and lost alot of marines
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Hazzyboy
Profile Joined January 2012
Estonia555 Posts
April 08 2012 14:43 GMT
#6602
To sum up things, this final was the best with every game being tense and unpredictable.
KT and Flash are a great team but never-ever commit to ONE player in a team sport, no matter how good he is, because the TEAM wins the game, not individuals...
BroodWar is awesome!!!!
ellerina
Profile Joined April 2010
Philippines452 Posts
April 08 2012 14:43 GMT
#6603
On April 08 2012 23:41 IntoTheheart wrote:
Who agrees with me that while Bisu did really well today,

The true heroes are KTZerg?

3-0 between the three of them, even after seeing Flash falter and seeing Stats get wrecked, HoeJJa kept it together against BeSt.


They were amazing and deserve much respect. Hoejja in particular was magnificent.

OH MY GOD THE MONTAGE
Still round the corner there may wait , A new road or a secret gate /And though I oft have passed them by, A day will come at last when I /Shall take the hidden paths that run/West of the Moon, East of the Sun
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
April 08 2012 14:43 GMT
#6604
On April 08 2012 23:42 ShadeR wrote:
Stream is still on i'm waiting for a montage guys.

And i'm not disappointed here we go!
HNOblivion
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil37 Posts
April 08 2012 14:43 GMT
#6605
On April 08 2012 23:37 Shikyo wrote:
Okay, time to be serious now I guess.

Flash played awfully that last game. In the early game he had numerous chances to take a significant advantage, then just throws it by letting himself get flanked by Zealots. He might have been able to accumulate a large enough advantage at that point that he could just win with a timing push.

Afterwards he makes only tanks and no vultures. I was thinking he would lose it the moment he overcommitted to the place behind bisus base, but Bisu tried to break it instead of counterattacking. However, flash kept doing that, with NO vultures and NO proper defenses at home, and so Bisu was going to win the second he decided to counterattack. Flash couldn't even go for a base race himself after seeing Bisu countering him because he was at a terrible position behind Bisu's base where he couldn't access the actually important parts of Bisus base fast enough to deal any kind of significant damage.

Especially the part where he snipes core and then makes a total of 0 vultures against the only unit Bisu could possibly make was just unbelievable.

Flash definitely wasn't in form again. I believe that sending out Hoejja would have given KT better chances of victory.


I think you understate the confusion that the multiple gassteals, proxy gateway and manner pylons must have do to Flash's mental state. It's much harder to play well in this situation than in a "proper" game.
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
April 08 2012 14:43 GMT
#6606
sorry guys, you can ban me for 2 days if you want to.
but no starcraft final will be this good.
ever.


User was temp banned for this post.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 08 2012 14:43 GMT
#6607
On April 08 2012 23:43 chambertin wrote:
SO I gather vultures are pretty good against zealots???

Do they do bonus damage or something? and are they faster than zeals with legs?

...???

They do 20 damage and they're ranged, they can kite for a while and they just soak up damage so that the tanks don't have to.
kiss kiss fall in love
YyapSsap
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand1511 Posts
April 08 2012 14:43 GMT
#6608
Gas stolen several times, constant lot aggression, manner pylons like 3~4times etc, I think it all got into Flash's head. The multitasking was out of this world.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
April 08 2012 14:43 GMT
#6609
On April 08 2012 23:43 chambertin wrote:
SO I gather vultures are pretty good against zealots???

Do they do bonus damage or something? and are they faster than zeals with legs?

...???

Vultures are designed to kill of light units, such as Zealots and can kite them. They also have mines which blow up stuff that step on them.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Winechu
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1186 Posts
April 08 2012 14:43 GMT
#6610
On April 08 2012 23:42 reincremate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 23:36 revy wrote:
Disappointed at all the KT fans blaming it on map, map had nothing to do with that game. There were a few misplays by Flash.

While it's true that Flash lost the game because of bad decisions, I don't think Flash would have made desperation moves like pushing out prematurely or with biomech if it was on a map with an easier to take third base. Even given the early game cheese, he could have just camped at home on 3 bases until he had a large enough army. But on this map, the onus was on Flash to do damage to Bisu or just get rolled eventually.


While I do think that Bisu deserved that win completely

The map had EVERYTHING to do with that game
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
April 08 2012 14:43 GMT
#6611
PL montage incoming
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
chambertin
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1704 Posts
April 08 2012 14:44 GMT
#6612
Also, Flash getting into that cliff position... why is that so great... it seems like he couldnt do much damage with that excpet to a few tech structures...???
"I know one thing, that I know nothing" - Socrates?
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
April 08 2012 14:44 GMT
#6613
That was entertaining to watch!!! I don't really have a good idea who's good and not, but liked it anyway

Was cheering for KT in the end to make the comeback (which they almost did).
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 08 2012 14:44 GMT
#6614
This montage is epic
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
April 08 2012 14:44 GMT
#6615
On April 08 2012 23:43 SkelA wrote:
Flash just had to wait for medics and stim and push and win ..... but instead he went out with pure marine + scv against 3 gate zeal and lost alot of marines

Reavers dont care a bout medics.
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
April 08 2012 14:44 GMT
#6616
Bisu is just flat out better in micoing small groups of units, that's all.
ggaemo fan
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
April 08 2012 14:44 GMT
#6617
On April 08 2012 23:43 chambertin wrote:
SO I gather vultures are pretty good against zealots???

Do they do bonus damage or something? and are they faster than zeals with legs?

...???


Vultures do bonus damage against light, are faster, are ranged, and get 3 mines for free.
GraFx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States429 Posts
April 08 2012 14:44 GMT
#6618
Perfect finals to end proleague on.
chambertin
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1704 Posts
April 08 2012 14:44 GMT
#6619
On April 08 2012 23:43 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 23:43 chambertin wrote:
SO I gather vultures are pretty good against zealots???

Do they do bonus damage or something? and are they faster than zeals with legs?

...???

Vultures are designed to kill of light units, such as Zealots and can kite them. They also have mines which blow up stuff that step on them.


Oh shit yeah forgot about about mines...

thank you
"I know one thing, that I know nothing" - Socrates?
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 08 2012 14:44 GMT
#6620
they gave bisu mvp? what? am i reading this right?

fantasy was the guy who carried skt on his back this season, and if he didnt beat flash in game 2, who knows wouldve happened
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
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