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Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
April 08 2012 14:46 GMT
#6641
On April 08 2012 23:44 rabidch wrote:
they gave bisu mvp? what? am i reading this right?

fantasy was the guy who carried skt on his back this season, and if he didnt beat flash in game 2, who knows wouldve happened


Bisu won twice, and won the ace match. That's just how MVP works.
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
HNOblivion
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil37 Posts
April 08 2012 14:46 GMT
#6642
On April 08 2012 23:45 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 23:43 chambertin wrote:
SO I gather vultures are pretty good against zealots???

Do they do bonus damage or something? and are they faster than zeals with legs?

...???

the vults do the whole 20 dmg to zeals since zeals are considered small (please confirm, even tho they take up two slots, they're small right?) and concussion does 100% damage against small


Yes they are small. And Spider mines pretty good also against lots.
Jongl0
Profile Joined June 2011
631 Posts
April 08 2012 14:46 GMT
#6643
Man, these montages... They sure know what to do.
Hazzyboy
Profile Joined January 2012
Estonia555 Posts
April 08 2012 14:46 GMT
#6644
Guys chill up with Flash didn't play his best game cuz if soO and Ssak did play their best with advantages they had it could be 4-0.
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
April 08 2012 14:46 GMT
#6645
On April 08 2012 23:43 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 23:43 chambertin wrote:
SO I gather vultures are pretty good against zealots???

Do they do bonus damage or something? and are they faster than zeals with legs?

...???

They do 20 damage and they're ranged, they can kite for a while and they just soak up damage so that the tanks don't have to.

also mines
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
seriosity
Profile Joined July 2009
United States214 Posts
April 08 2012 14:46 GMT
#6646
The position behind the main denies mining.
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
April 08 2012 14:46 GMT
#6647
On April 08 2012 23:44 revy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 23:43 chambertin wrote:
SO I gather vultures are pretty good against zealots???

Do they do bonus damage or something? and are they faster than zeals with legs?

...???


Vultures do bonus damage against light, are faster, are ranged, and get 3 mines for free.


And they pop out like rabbits (going along with the Easter theme). Fast build time at minimal cost.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 08 2012 14:46 GMT
#6648
Alright now that I'm done vomiting rainbows all over my room and exploding from happiness I realized this, KT only won using their zergs, flash lost twice. stats lost.

And it was still 4-3.

...Fucking scary team.
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
April 08 2012 14:46 GMT
#6649
On April 08 2012 23:45 ffreakk wrote:
Beautiful series.

Now for a midnight Dinner.


2:45am Easter egg is going down well. Saves cooking.
parrradize
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany59 Posts
April 08 2012 14:46 GMT
#6650
Anyone remember the crowd some years ago? The crowd this year seemed to be like for SC2. Sad what happened with BW
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13092 Posts
April 08 2012 14:46 GMT
#6651
On April 08 2012 23:44 ShadeR wrote:
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On April 08 2012 23:43 SkelA wrote:
Flash just had to wait for medics and stim and push and win ..... but instead he went out with pure marine + scv against 3 gate zeal and lost alot of marines

Reavers dont care a bout medics.


He could make the push before reavers because Bisu tech was way behind pumping zeals and taking his natural nexus.

Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
[Silverflame]
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany640 Posts
April 08 2012 14:47 GMT
#6652
I am actually crying right now... of sadness... and joy! Thank you for letting me be part of this community!
Fav P Stork / Fav T Fantasy / Fav Z Hoejja
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
April 08 2012 14:47 GMT
#6653
fuck im crying like a little baby
jez
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
April 08 2012 14:47 GMT
#6654
On April 08 2012 23:45 thanhbao86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 23:41 SkelA wrote:
On April 08 2012 23:35 J1.au wrote:
SK sponsored league, these maps are no coincidence. KT did their best, but the evil ones prevailed.


The thing is 1st place gets to pick the Ace match map over 2nd... just an advantage for being 1st in proleague

Losing team fans always make shit up. It makes the win even more worth it, without anti-fans the win may not taste that great. Haha. Blaming on maps, on this on that, I love it, bring it on KT fans, we will see you again for sure and it will be as epic as this or more. If we lose, we would blame it on the maps too. I love broodwar fans.


He just said 1st place has an advantage because they get to pick. That's objective fact. Calm down
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
beachbeachy
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States509 Posts
April 08 2012 14:47 GMT
#6655
On April 08 2012 23:43 revy wrote:
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On April 08 2012 23:39 beachbeachy wrote:
On April 08 2012 23:37 Shikyo wrote:
Okay, time to be serious now I guess.

Flash played awfully that last game. In the early game he had numerous chances to take a significant advantage, then just throws it by letting himself get flanked by Zealots. He might have been able to accumulate a large enough advantage at that point that he could just win with a timing push.

Afterwards he makes only tanks and no vultures. I was thinking he would lose it the moment he overcommitted to the place behind bisus base, but Bisu tried to break it instead of counterattacking. However, flash kept doing that, with NO vultures and NO proper defenses at home, and so Bisu was going to win the second he decided to counterattack. Flash couldn't even go for a base race himself after seeing Bisu countering him because he was at a terrible position behind Bisu's base where he couldn't access the actually important parts of Bisus base fast enough to deal any kind of significant damage.

Especially the part where he snipes core and then makes a total of 0 vultures against the only unit Bisu could possibly make was just unbelievable.

Flash definitely wasn't in form again. I believe that sending out Hoejja would have given KT better chances of victory.


this is such a warped perception it's unreal.

he did take a significant advantage in the early game which is WHY he was able to push out with pure tanks and actually get behind bisu's main. do you think that ever happens when the game is even or protoss is ahead?



He didn't take that large of an advantage in the early game. Flash should have been able to seal the game after the first few micro battles in his main. Every time Flash made great progress against the zealot rush he pushed out into the open and lost far too many marines.

I'm not such a fan of Flash's push location either, that spot behind the base let him siege down 2 tech buildings and that's it. It was a nice defensible position, sure, but he couldn't push anywhere from there. Let alone the fact that you can't reinforce that location, the supply lines are just too long!


they did trade even, with flash maybe slightly ahead, however, there are more variables to account for.

Bisu...
-had no expansion
-had his gateway in the middle of the map
-made zealots. in the early game, making too many will just set you back. because even if you do mass up a whole bunch, they're useless because terran can build up a marine ball or just use vultures and just win.
Dream no small dreams for they have no power to move the hearts of men. - Goethe
Tsutchie
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia951 Posts
April 08 2012 14:47 GMT
#6656
my heart is breaking to this montage
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
April 08 2012 14:47 GMT
#6657
On April 08 2012 23:46 PineappleLumpsToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 23:43 Hyde wrote:
PL montage incoming


I'm trying not to think about what this montage represents.

yeah but I'm going to savour it, all of it. It's so sweet. I feel so relieved, and as light as a feather
I'm sleeping on cloud 9 tonight
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
ronfler
Profile Joined April 2010
United States48 Posts
April 08 2012 14:47 GMT
#6658
I still can't believe Ssak lost his game vs CH. It shouldn't even have gone to an ace match, but I'm sure glad it did.

whom are you, he asked, for he had attended business college
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 08 2012 14:47 GMT
#6659
On April 08 2012 23:45 Winechu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 23:44 rabidch wrote:
they gave bisu mvp? what? am i reading this right?

fantasy was the guy who carried skt on his back this season, and if he didnt beat flash in game 2, who knows wouldve happened


Isn't it FINALS mvp? In that case I'd support giving it to bisu too...

HoeJJa. I'm not even a fan of KT but he had so much pressure on him to play well. Sure all of them did but if he lost to BeSt it would've been over for his team.

Also think about how many people underestimate him as well, he had a lot of pressure and pulled through.
kiss kiss fall in love
sAw
Profile Joined November 2008
965 Posts
April 08 2012 14:47 GMT
#6660
I have never been an emotional guy, but this shit messes me up.
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