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[SPL] Grand Final: SK Telecom T1 vs KT Rolster - Page 328

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letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
April 08 2012 14:39 GMT
#6541
On April 08 2012 23:35 J1.au wrote:
SK sponsored league, these maps are no coincidence. KT did their best, but the evil ones prevailed.

oh come on, if not for Flash KT would have never get a single title
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
April 08 2012 14:39 GMT
#6542
BISU WINS MVP
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
April 08 2012 14:39 GMT
#6543
Taek Shin is MVP!!!
Toyman69
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada100 Posts
April 08 2012 14:39 GMT
#6544
Just wondering, why were kt vs khan b03 days and finals werent?
Lee Jaedong fighting!
beachbeachy
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States509 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 14:41:58
April 08 2012 14:39 GMT
#6545
On April 08 2012 23:37 Shikyo wrote:
Okay, time to be serious now I guess.

Flash played awfully that last game. In the early game he had numerous chances to take a significant advantage, then just throws it by letting himself get flanked by Zealots. He might have been able to accumulate a large enough advantage at that point that he could just win with a timing push.

Afterwards he makes only tanks and no vultures. I was thinking he would lose it the moment he overcommitted to the place behind bisus base, but Bisu tried to break it instead of counterattacking. However, flash kept doing that, with NO vultures and NO proper defenses at home, and so Bisu was going to win the second he decided to counterattack. Flash couldn't even go for a base race himself after seeing Bisu countering him because he was at a terrible position behind Bisu's base where he couldn't access the actually important parts of Bisus base fast enough to deal any kind of significant damage.

Especially the part where he snipes core and then makes a total of 0 vultures against the only unit Bisu could possibly make was just unbelievable.

Flash definitely wasn't in form again. I believe that sending out Hoejja would have given KT better chances of victory.


this is such a warped perception it's unreal.

he did take a significant advantage in the early game which is WHY he was able to push out with pure tanks and actually get behind bisu's main. do you think that ever happens when the game is even or protoss is ahead?

right before the zealots hit his main, flash was so far ahead. think of it in terms of the flash vs fantasy game earlier. the zealot rush was equivalent to flash's desperate doom drop. that's how fast the game tilted.
Dream no small dreams for they have no power to move the hearts of men. - Goethe
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
April 08 2012 14:39 GMT
#6546
BiSu MVP, well deserved.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 08 2012 14:39 GMT
#6547
On April 08 2012 23:39 kaleidoscope wrote:
MVP KTY!

Nah, the MVPs today are KTZerg for never giving up hope when all of it seemed lost.
kiss kiss fall in love
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
April 08 2012 14:40 GMT
#6548
On April 08 2012 23:39 Dante08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 23:34 beachbeachy wrote:
On April 08 2012 23:29 Toadily wrote:
On April 08 2012 23:28 Plexa wrote:
HOW DID FLASH LOSE THAT WTFFFFFFF


3rd went unchecked and flash didn't have any vulture after he destroyed bisu's cyber for some reason..


had nothing to do with the third being unchecked. bisu was just forced to make chargelots and blindly wins


It had everything to do with the 3rd unchecked. Bisu would not have had enough minerals to build that many zealots if not for the third. And Flash y u no make vultures?!

Seriously, three vultures when Bisu backdoored Flash with the Zealots would have made all the difference.

Methinks Bisu got to Flash's head with all the multitasking.
웅진 멘쓰즈
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
April 08 2012 14:40 GMT
#6549
the last bw mvp?
is that even real?
I have tear in my eyes.
a lot of them.
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
April 08 2012 14:40 GMT
#6550
On April 08 2012 23:33 Kznn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 23:28 writer22816 wrote:
Thank god BW is dying, that game just proves that TvP is horrendously broken.


please, die in hell.

hope a mod goes through some of these posts.
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
April 08 2012 14:40 GMT
#6551
On April 08 2012 23:37 Shikyo wrote:
Okay, time to be serious now I guess.

Flash played awfully that last game. In the early game he had numerous chances to take a significant advantage, then just throws it by letting himself get flanked by Zealots. He might have been able to accumulate a large enough advantage at that point that he could just win with a timing push.

Afterwards he makes only tanks and no vultures. I was thinking he would lose it the moment he overcommitted to the place behind bisus base, but Bisu tried to break it instead of counterattacking. However, flash kept doing that, with NO vultures and NO proper defenses at home, and so Bisu was going to win the second he decided to counterattack. Flash couldn't even go for a base race himself after seeing Bisu countering him because he was at a terrible position behind Bisu's base where he couldn't access the actually important parts of Bisus base fast enough to deal any kind of significant damage.

Especially the part where he snipes core and then makes a total of 0 vultures against the only unit Bisu could possibly make was just unbelievable.

Flash definitely wasn't in form again. I believe that sending out Hoejja would have given KT better chances of victory.


Flash's mechanical play seemed much improved in the ace match, his reactions were slow against Fanta. But strategically in the game against Bisu he just didn't play correctly. Pushed out in the open far too early, in the confines of his nat and main he traded beautifully against those lots.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13430 Posts
April 08 2012 14:40 GMT
#6552
That last game was down to Flash or Stats. You couldn't risk sending out a zerg as SKT could've sent out Fanta.

Do you want your SPL final on the line with Flash or Stats?

KT coach did the right thing.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
April 08 2012 14:40 GMT
#6553
FUCK YEAH BISU

KIM TAEK YONG MVP

I'm so sorry I ever had a shred of doubt
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Winechu
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1186 Posts
April 08 2012 14:40 GMT
#6554
On April 08 2012 23:36 Emon_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 23:34 chambertin wrote:
Can someone who actually understands this game write a quick explanation of that last game... just a few sentences.. I'm really curious since I havent seen that much broodwar and the the first set of games were quite accessible. That last game I don't even...

LAST GAME WRITE-UP please gogo LITTLE SYNOPSIS

Like a short summary?


Fast zeals good on this map because of the reverse ramp, so bisu tried for proxy

Gas steal to ensure late factories, then manner pylon so that Flash would have 1 more thing to worry about while microing against zeals

Flash went double rax because it was the only way to fend this off. He did well with his initial push but in hindsight, the core was not critical at all due to the map. Furthermore, he did not build an additional bunker at his nat after his original one went down

Shouldn't have mattered since bisu can just macro lots all day since he got a third, but it killed off flash completely
stork4ever
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1036 Posts
April 08 2012 14:40 GMT
#6555
MVP MVP MVP
Bisu dont need no msl!
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 08 2012 14:40 GMT
#6556
On April 08 2012 23:39 storkfan wrote:
Funny how the last game of the SPL finals has the same theme as the last game of the OSL finals: terran goes for a sneaky backdoor push, only to leave his front open and be crushed by the dramatic counter attack

i saw the resemblance. though fantasy's backdoor fortress was more logical as flash wasnt really getting any uuber good positioning over the nexus
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 08 2012 14:40 GMT
#6557
On April 08 2012 23:39 Toyman69 wrote:
Just wondering, why were kt vs khan b03 days and finals werent?

Probably more epic this way, at least I'd say so.
kiss kiss fall in love
thanhbao86
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada199 Posts
April 08 2012 14:40 GMT
#6558
I love Broodwar so much, omg what a game, not even a game anymore what a sport with all its emotions,
OMG Bisu I became SKT fan because of you and there is never one day that I doubt the decision that i became your fan. You are not consistent, not strong as Flash or Jaedong but man you always bring awesome, emotional games to your fans, cheesy or straight up or sexy DT/sairs. I love you man.
Fat Dragoon
LittLeLives
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States692 Posts
April 08 2012 14:40 GMT
#6559
On April 08 2012 23:37 Shikyo wrote:
Okay, time to be serious now I guess.

Flash played awfully that last game. In the early game he had numerous chances to take a significant advantage, then just throws it by letting himself get flanked by Zealots. He might have been able to accumulate a large enough advantage at that point that he could just win with a timing push.

Afterwards he makes only tanks and no vultures. I was thinking he would lose it the moment he overcommitted to the place behind bisus base, but Bisu tried to break it instead of counterattacking. However, flash kept doing that, with NO vultures and NO proper defenses at home, and so Bisu was going to win the second he decided to counterattack. Flash couldn't even go for a base race himself after seeing Bisu countering him because he was at a terrible position behind Bisu's base where he couldn't access the actually important parts of Bisus base fast enough to deal any kind of significant damage.

Especially the part where he snipes core and then makes a total of 0 vultures against the only unit Bisu could possibly make was just unbelievable.

Flash definitely wasn't in form again. I believe that sending out Hoejja would have given KT better chances of victory.

This is good.
I like you.
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
April 08 2012 14:40 GMT
#6560
On April 08 2012 23:37 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 23:36 Spica wrote:
On April 08 2012 23:33 X10A wrote:
On April 08 2012 23:32 Spica wrote:
On April 08 2012 23:31 Dodgin wrote:
THIS WAS WORTH STAYING UP 32 HOURS FOR DAMNIT

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

LOL CONGRATS ON MAKING IT!! You are a real trooper sir. Victory is so, so sweet.

Well my good sir Spica, you've won this day. Good day to you.

I'm sorry that Hyuk wasn't sent out today But good day to you too. Hopefully you join us in celebration.

BREAK OUT THE CHAMPAGNE SPICA

TONIGHT WE CELEBRATE OUR VICTORY

OH YEAH

TIME TO GET DRUNK IN THE NAME OF SKT!!! FUCK YEAH
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
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