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MeteoCheese
Profile Joined November 2009
United States14 Posts
March 04 2012 05:59 GMT
#1401
On March 04 2012 14:53 Release wrote:
You guys want to know where Soulkey lost that big a-move battle?
+ Show Spoiler +
right at the start: His first volley with both groups hit the drones mining gas, and jaedong engaged immediately after.

Engaging over Jaedong's nat was a bad move too. All of Jaedong's buildings, drones and ovies helped soak up SoulKey's random muta bounces.
ThreeActPlay
Profile Joined April 2011
United States249 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 06:06:32
March 04 2012 06:05 GMT
#1402
T_T poor team 8. my heart broke for jaehoon at the end of that last game, must be devastated to lose after jaedong said they would make a miracle T_T
twitter.com/haethos
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
March 04 2012 06:08 GMT
#1403
On March 04 2012 14:50 Dakkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 14:41 Kiett wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:36 Dakkas wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:35 Kiett wrote:
I just don't understand why he didn't bother to scout the back. You'd think that being the first to fall to dirty protoss shit on this map after getting cannon rushed by Brave, you'd know to ALWAYS check for that shit. Ugh.


He scouted where Brave cheesed him, what Flying did was where Bisu cheesed Wooki

Okay so what are you saying? You should only learn from your own mistakes and not those of other people who've also played on the same map? Just because that specific situation didn't happen to Jaehoon doesn't mean he can just ignore the possibility.


Chiding him out on it isn't exactly fair, everyone that plays on that map is at the risk of being proxy 2-gate or cannon-rush. Not everyone has scouted properly for it either, if anything I'd say it's just a damn unfortunate coincidence that it happened to Jaehoon twice. Personally I'd say Flying would have done that against whoever he was being matched against

Exactly. That is exactly what I'm fucking saying. Everyone is at the risk, so maybe everyone should check. Especially in such a high stakes game. I mean, this is Chain Reaction for God's sake. If it isn't Zerg mining out the back minerals or Baby floating his proxy rax over the back temple, it's Protoss cannon rushing or proxy gating. I'm not trying to specifically call Jaehoon out for being bad, I'm just really disappointed that the situation even came to this, when it could have been avoided if he had just learned from the mistakes of all the people who've died to dumb cheese on this map.
Writer:o
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
March 04 2012 06:09 GMT
#1404
Fair enough, I can't disagree with that
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 06:11:19
March 04 2012 06:10 GMT
#1405
On March 04 2012 15:08 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 14:50 Dakkas wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:41 Kiett wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:36 Dakkas wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:35 Kiett wrote:
I just don't understand why he didn't bother to scout the back. You'd think that being the first to fall to dirty protoss shit on this map after getting cannon rushed by Brave, you'd know to ALWAYS check for that shit. Ugh.


He scouted where Brave cheesed him, what Flying did was where Bisu cheesed Wooki

Okay so what are you saying? You should only learn from your own mistakes and not those of other people who've also played on the same map? Just because that specific situation didn't happen to Jaehoon doesn't mean he can just ignore the possibility.


Chiding him out on it isn't exactly fair, everyone that plays on that map is at the risk of being proxy 2-gate or cannon-rush. Not everyone has scouted properly for it either, if anything I'd say it's just a damn unfortunate coincidence that it happened to Jaehoon twice. Personally I'd say Flying would have done that against whoever he was being matched against

Exactly. That is exactly what I'm fucking saying. Everyone is at the risk, so maybe everyone should check. Especially in such a high stakes game. I mean, this is Chain Reaction for God's sake. If it isn't Zerg mining out the back minerals or Baby floating his proxy rax over the back temple, it's Protoss cannon rushing or proxy gating. I'm not trying to specifically call Jaehoon out for being bad, I'm just really disappointed that the situation even came to this, when it could have been avoided if he had just learned from the mistakes of all the people who've died to dumb cheese on this map.


He didn't die to dumb cheese. He stopped it. That is the problem here. He had pretty much won the game and then hyuked himself. This is why people are being angry at him.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 04 2012 06:17 GMT
#1406
Heartbreaking loss for T8
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Doughboy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States721 Posts
March 04 2012 06:42 GMT
#1407
Poor Jaehoon. It's like being the guy to strike out last at the bottom of the 9th. I really hope T8 makes the playoffs in the 2nd half of PL.
"Don't be distracted by the what if's, should'ves, and if onlys. The one thing you choose yourself - THAT is the truth of your universe." Fav T: Sea, Leta, Really Fav P: Free, Snow Fav Z: ZerO, GGplay, Jaedong, Neo.G_Soulkey
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 06:51:39
March 04 2012 06:50 GMT
#1408
On March 04 2012 14:45 friendbg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 14:42 Golgotha wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:37 Ryo wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:32 Dakkas wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:31 doothegee wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:30 Scarecrow wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:29 oldgregg wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:27 o[twist] wrote:
that's the second time jaehoon has lost a won 5th set

this team needs more resources because these are some of the best kids in bw and they look so fucking depressed all the time


you can't really blame him for losing that one, that was a dirty strategy and a close close situation

you can 100% blame him and he knows it

Don't you know it's a sin on TL to blame Jaehoon for being terrible



You're a horrible BW fan. When Jaehoon wins it's "ehh gj". When he loses EVERYTHING is his fault and he's horrible, that's some double standed bullshit right there

You're terrible

What do expect, he even hates on his own team when they lose.

Anyway, to people saying Killer should retire as well, pls stop this. The players on this team have been through enough already.


tbh no matter how many people here say failhoon or that killer couldn't kill a fly, it doesn't affect T8, esports or anything important for that matter. let forum nerds be angry all they want, it don't mean nothing. whatever happens to the T8 team and esports will happen because of other factors, and nothing here (good or bad) will change that. so no need to get so upset.

are you saying if T8 were to produce good results and got sponsored because of that, it wouldn't affect the BW scene?


where in my post did I talk about team performance? team performance WILL affect T8..obviously. if you read my post it simply suggests that people should not get so upset and link remarks like "failhoon" as bringing down the glory of south korea esports and bw.

esports and bw in korea is nowhere near that frail.
jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 08:12:58
March 04 2012 07:03 GMT
#1409
NOOOOOOOO (( T8 they continue disappointing, apparently they are really no TOP-team. All the time I was hoping they show their real power, but it seems like this is their power.
yepenaxa
Profile Joined July 2011
Belarus2280 Posts
March 04 2012 07:35 GMT
#1410
On March 04 2012 14:49 pyrogenetix wrote:
Leta vs Flash first up fuck yeah

fuck yeah lol
War. Bloody War.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
March 04 2012 08:10 GMT
#1411
On March 04 2012 14:38 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 14:35 Kipsate wrote:
Team8 cheesed out of the playoffs

Well, its not like I didn't expect it.

Silence. I'll give you the three real reasons why T8 isn't in the playoffs:
1. Coaching/Lineups [choices]
2. Sea
3 Killer

The results speak for themselves.


All these players have proven they can perform at the top, it's up to a coach to make sure they get and stay there.
So yes point 1 but 2/3 are the result of point 1.
Team 8 failed and he's to blame, it's more then looking cool with sunglasses in the studio, it's your interaction with player making them feel confident suporting them, do as much as possible so they can focus 100% on the game.
Perhaps it's to much for him alone, but considering his past succeses he disipoints me and he can not make T8 play solid each and every time.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
March 04 2012 08:32 GMT
#1412
On March 04 2012 17:10 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 14:38 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:35 Kipsate wrote:
Team8 cheesed out of the playoffs

Well, its not like I didn't expect it.

Silence. I'll give you the three real reasons why T8 isn't in the playoffs:
1. Coaching/Lineups [choices]
2. Sea
3 Killer

The results speak for themselves.


All these players have proven they can perform at the top, it's up to a coach to make sure they get and stay there.
So yes point 1 but 2/3 are the result of point 1.
Team 8 failed and he's to blame, it's more then looking cool with sunglasses in the studio, it's your interaction with player making them feel confident suporting them, do as much as possible so they can focus 100% on the game.
Perhaps it's to much for him alone, but considering his past succeses he disipoints me and he can not make T8 play solid each and every time.


The coach can only do so much when he isn't the one playing the game. It's unbelievable that you actually think a coach can be held 100% accountable for a player's performance. Players slump. Sea and Killer just had horrible timing on theirs.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 09:15:09
March 04 2012 09:06 GMT
#1413
On March 04 2012 17:32 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 17:10 Lysanias wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:38 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:35 Kipsate wrote:
Team8 cheesed out of the playoffs

Well, its not like I didn't expect it.

Silence. I'll give you the three real reasons why T8 isn't in the playoffs:
1. Coaching/Lineups [choices]
2. Sea
3 Killer

The results speak for themselves.


All these players have proven they can perform at the top, it's up to a coach to make sure they get and stay there.
So yes point 1 but 2/3 are the result of point 1.
Team 8 failed and he's to blame, it's more then looking cool with sunglasses in the studio, it's your interaction with player making them feel confident suporting them, do as much as possible so they can focus 100% on the game.
Perhaps it's to much for him alone, but considering his past succeses he disipoints me and he can not make T8 play solid each and every time.


The coach can only do so much when he isn't the one playing the game. It's unbelievable that you actually think a coach can be held 100% accountable for a player's performance. Players slump. Sea and Killer just had horrible timing on theirs.


I see Starcraft like any other sport, if a player is slumping is it not a coach job to help them out of it ?
Why do they have coaches instead of assistants who just take care of there agenda ?
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
March 04 2012 09:22 GMT
#1414
On March 04 2012 18:06 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 17:32 Kyuukyuu wrote:
On March 04 2012 17:10 Lysanias wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:38 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:35 Kipsate wrote:
Team8 cheesed out of the playoffs

Well, its not like I didn't expect it.

Silence. I'll give you the three real reasons why T8 isn't in the playoffs:
1. Coaching/Lineups [choices]
2. Sea
3 Killer

The results speak for themselves.


All these players have proven they can perform at the top, it's up to a coach to make sure they get and stay there.
So yes point 1 but 2/3 are the result of point 1.
Team 8 failed and he's to blame, it's more then looking cool with sunglasses in the studio, it's your interaction with player making them feel confident suporting them, do as much as possible so they can focus 100% on the game.
Perhaps it's to much for him alone, but considering his past succeses he disipoints me and he can not make T8 play solid each and every time.


The coach can only do so much when he isn't the one playing the game. It's unbelievable that you actually think a coach can be held 100% accountable for a player's performance. Players slump. Sea and Killer just had horrible timing on theirs.


I see Starcraft like any other sport, if a player is slumping is it not a coach job to help them out of it ?
Why do they have coaches instead of assistants who just take care of there agenda ?


The coach is doing a good job.

Q. While the team is doing well, your last match against STX SouL might be regretful.
(Z)Jaedong – In a coach’s shoes, it is hard to contain your anger in that situation. But instead of saying something to the players, he supported us saying ‘let’s do better next game fighting’. Seeing the frustration on the players, he definitely gave us more confidence. I think that affected us in today’s match.

This is our town, scrub
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
March 04 2012 09:28 GMT
#1415
Poor Jaehoon, will Team 8 ever find a sponsor?
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
March 04 2012 09:55 GMT
#1416
Omg 'Hoon! You were clawing yourself out of it. You even trapped that one zealot and was ahead in the army count. Another Pylon closer to the gates, maybe and Team8 would have had a chance at the playoffs. Then again - lackluster performances have been haunting Team8 throughout the season. Jaehoon did a good job today but just got unlucky.

Flying was surprised as hell to be winning that game. Big ol' grin on his face, throwing the headphones off to high five the teammates after losing all but 4 probes in his base. Brood War fighting.
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5606 Posts
March 04 2012 13:21 GMT
#1417
This is just not fucking possible. can't we ever catch a fucking break? im so mad now this is so unfair.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
JFKWT
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore1442 Posts
March 04 2012 14:16 GMT
#1418
Fuck yea Flyingggg & STARS

T8 =(
The calm before the storm / "loli is not a crime, but meganekko is the way to go!"
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
March 04 2012 14:37 GMT
#1419
T8 has been really unclutch, Jaehoon is showing pretty impressive play only to screw up at the last part and give his opponent the win and it really makes me RAGE. If only killer/sea started to buck up or something, jaehoon would feel more relaxed and would probably play much better. Depending on JD/Baby combo isn't going to get T8 anywhere when theres so many other teams with more clutch players (Stars: Light/Zero/SK SKT:FBB Khan:Stork/Jangbi/Roro/Reality CJ: Effort/Hydra/Leta/Snow)

If T8 doesnt buck up its going to be downhill from there on
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
March 04 2012 14:47 GMT
#1420
I just hope the team will at least continue to give their best for the 3 next matches. If they play another season, i'm sure they will do better. Every players on T8 showed us that they can play great games, it just seems thats its never more than 2 per day that is able to do it :\
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
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